Code of ethics......

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I do myself have a problem with one of those observations. The DJ that has his components all over a table. What's wrong with that. Just use a fasade to hide everything and you're done.
 
Cesar said:
Thank You Greg

You can be the Good - I will be the Bad - Now we just have to find the Ugly?
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HERE!!!

Cesar,
yes, your points are valid. but it's hard to make standards for EVERY situation.
 
First of all, hey Cesar, it is great to see you back here. I used to be known as GoodknightDj. I'm pretty much shut down these days and that gives me a unique perspective on your post.

I now go to more parties rather than play at them so I get to observe the DJ in the case where there is one.

I get your point about observing and learning. I think that DJs should do this during their "down time". Simply, go around to venues and just observe your "competition" and make note of what they do and don't do. You can get lots of pointers just doing that.

Now, for what you said, my comments are in red.

Cesar said:
Posted on a thread that the following are poor examples of a Professional Mobile DJ

Professional is in the eyes of the beholder. What one DJ thinks is professional is different from another's idea of professional. The bottom line is, what did the client think?

A DJ using one speaker for the event

Small venues might only need one speaker. In many I have played I could very easily get by with one playing in mono.

A DJ not properly dressed for the event

Of course, this is event dependent. Again, it is in the eyes of the beholder. Once I thought that tuxes should be the standard at weddings but as I got older it became a business suit; then a dark sport jacket, decent slacks, and a dark turtleneck; finally it was a company polo and khakis.

A DJ with out a Wireless Microphone for a Wedding Reception

I've seen wedding DJs work very well with wired mics.

A DJ with all his DJ Components spread out on a table

We have a holiday party at the Elks Lodge that I do not DJ. We hire a lady DJ and she does a kick ass job. We cover the pool table in the dining room and she spreads her gear out on it. She uses two laptops, a few external drives, a mixer, and one of the Fender systems. Her equipment is not cased but it is neatly laid out on the table. I am sure if she got a table topper nobody would see it. But, I can tell you that I was the only one in the room that noticed it (when my wife and I were not dancing) and my only note was that it was done neatly.

People were dancing and not noticing the table layout.

A DJ showing up at a location without a dolly to transport his equipment having to borrow one from the facility

And? Before I got my carts I did this. The client does not care how you got your equipment in and set up; only that your equipment is there and set up.

A DJ playing with his DJ Party Lights during Dinner Time

Well, when I was running lights I would make sure all of that was done before guests arrived.

I Found myself having DJs disagree with these observations.

Why isn't there a Code of ethics or a standard mode of operation that all Mobile DJs can agree on?

I think Peter Merry tried to do that with his certification system. Many people (including me) scoffed at him. Honestly, I really don't think that clients care just as long as the DJ delivers as expected.
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Tom

Thank You for the welcome back it was always enjoyable to ready your posts.

I don't really want to get into much of a disagreement with you but it might be possible that your views are a little relaxed now in your semi retired status and also I don't just use the client as the only barometer of what is right.
 
The one about table clutter was from a client perspective. I was one of the party attendees and only looked at her set up once. The rest of the night my wife and I spent on the dance floor or hanging out with friends.

The music was good and people were dancing and that was all that mattered. And that is all that really matters at any event. If the DJ is not doing his/her job and keeping me having a good time then I am going to start noticing other things.

As to "more relaxed", before I shut down I actually had a pretty good run of gigs. I went to a more laid back style because I realized that people only cared about what was coming out of my speakers and my organizational skills. The tux and suit went and if they wanted that then they got to keep shopping.
 
Tom

Have you ever had a Bride say We can't use that song because Jenny used it at her Wedding Reception or We choose you because we want you to be better then the DJ that Jenny used at her Wedding Reception. Have you ever heard a Bride compare her Wedding Reception to some other Wedding Reception she has been to?

If you have heard anything along those lines what do you think was said after the event behind closed doors concerning the DJ with his components spread out on the table.

I would only hope my DJ system would not be the but of jokes said behind closed doors. What I am disagreeing with you on is that you just seem to focus your views on the event or the client where i focus my views to include the facility or it's employee and what the guests think or say after the event.
 
How could a Wedding DJ work well with a wired Microphone without causing a tripping hazard for the Banquet Staff moving around the room or short changing the magical moment that might happen at a toast when the Best Man has to perform his Toast anywhere but next to the Groom because of the wired mic? Of course if anyone reading this thinks the Best Man delivering his Toast from any place in the room is as good as having it delivered next to the Bride and Groom then we have nothing to discuss because your standards are lower then mine.
 
Cesar said:
How could a Wedding DJ work well with a wired Microphone without causing a tripping hazard for the Banquet Staff moving around the room or short changing the magical moment that might happen at a toast when the Best Man has to perform his Toast anywhere but next to the Groom because of the wired mic? Of course if anyone reading this thinks the Best Man delivering his Toast from any place in the room is as good as having it delivered next to the Bride and Groom then we have nothing to discuss because your standards are lower then mine.
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Is there really anybody that is suggesting it's better to use a wired mic for a toast at a wedding? Not every event is a wedding...not every event demands a wireless mic. I happen to use a wireless mic, but honestly couldn't care less what other DJs are using
 
Cesar said:
your standards are lower then mine.
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and hard drives are easier (or better) than CD's
and LED lights are better than halogen lamps
and wood speakers sound better than plastic ones
etc etc

in the end OUR standards don't matter to anyone but US.
excuse me, our standards SHOULDN'T matter to anyone but us.
standards are like OPINIONS. they are our own. that is why some things cannot be STANDARDIZED

ever see those guys who drum on plastic buckets and tin cans on street corners?
their standards are lower than mine
but they sure as hell can play A LOT better than I can
 
10 Things A DJ Should Never Do!
 
I didn't understand anything they said for the first 1:20!

perhaps the top five things THESE DJ's should not do is....
1- make videos
2- try to speak English
3- drop "shout outs" every 10-seconds
4- reproduce
5- continue to breathe
 
Common sense says there is nothing so unique about DJs that they require their own code of ethics.

If you operate with integrity, sincerely represent your customer's best interests, and treat other poeple and the venue properties with care - I see no reason you should need a life script from which to operate your business.

About 90% of what is proposed on this issue is not even an "ethical" concern. They are isuues of "image" and "pretense." Someone please explain to me the ethical crisis caused by caring a piece of gear rather than placing it on a cart? Where is the ethical crisis in not having gear rack mounted or cased? Ethics is not about stroking egos.
 
Morally Right or Wrong

To show up at a facility without a means to transport your equipment to your set up point?

Is this just image and pretense?

Back at ya Proformance
 
Cesar said:
Morally Right or Wrong

To show up at a facility without a means to transport your equipment to your set up point?

Is this just image and pretense?

Back at ya Proformance
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Would five burly guys and a Dyke with red spiked hair to transport your gear for you tarnish the image?
 
Cesar, are you related to that Venue Manager in California, the one who demands that the DJs load in wearing Tuxes. There was a thread about this a year or so ago. Hmmmmm;)
 
Let's see I would love to find that thread and offer my insight to the situation.

It's a 4 star hotel, The only way a DJ has to get to the room he is DJing is to roll his equipment within eye site of the paying customers enjoying their pricey meals. Is the Venue Manager wrong to not want his paying customers to see DJs use their own discretion and judgement on what they should wear while setting up their equipment. Looking at the Video several posts up I would have to side with the Venue Manager.
 
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