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Yes Bob, I have admitted to that. No apologies, I prefer to work in the studio if possible. I've never made any claim to be the best live mixer.

OTOH, you tell us you're a mixologist, and do all your sh_t live.

I called you out, and asked you to show it.

Bring it on.
If you want to see Bruce Springstein Live, where do you go?
Answer: To his Concert, yer knucklehead!
 
Nope, it never mixes, no matter how hard you shake!
 
If you want to see Bruce Springstein Live, where do you go?
Answer: To his Concert, yer knucklehead!


I have no clue whatsoever, what you meant -- must be a TEXASS thing...
 
I still don't understand why one would have bought OTS if it never met their need. I assume they have a try-before-buy version.
 
Yes Bob, I have admitted to that. No apologies, I prefer to work in the studio if possible. I've never made any claim to be the best live mixer.

OTOH, you tell us you're a mixologist, and do all your sh_t live.

I called you out, and asked you to show it.

Bring it on.


I do in fact, do everything I do live. That's what makes the job exciting and gives it a fun edge. I'm also very good at what I do... and self confident enough not to need your approval.

"Mixologist" is your word, not mine. You can stop trying to attribute to me words I don't use. I can obviously speak for myself.

You're welcome to invest your own effort and hear me live at any event you find me. I shouldn't have to tell you how desperate a person would need to be if making a video just to please a single disgruntled software coder. Don't hold your breath.
 
I still don't understand why one would have bought OTS if it never met their need. I assume they have a try-before-buy version.
The same reason why some people get married then divorce afterwards. Ask Rick! he has nothing good to say about that experience. :rolleyes:
 
I still don't understand why one would have bought OTS if it never met their need. I assume they have a try-before-buy version.

What "need" do you presume ANY software was capable of meeting at the time OtsJuke (it's original name) was first promoted to DJs?

You can't look at the state of software in 2012 and then ask about a decision made in an earlier decade. For example, Serato didn't exist yet, and other brands were not what they are today.

It's also not all-or-nothing.. I have more than one DJ software I can use - and each has it's own benefits. Ots is the ONLY software that includes a long list of unfulfilled promises an non-existent upgrades. Things I paid for and never got. (..not a lot of money admittedly, but that's no excuse for running this upgrade scam of theirs.)

The other softwares aren't all peaches and cream either ... but they don't pull the kind of consistent bull--- that OtsLabs does. Not even Rick :)
 
The same reason why some people get married then divorce afterwards. Ask Rick! he has nothing good to say about that experience. :rolleyes:
At least I don't worry about an upgrade that will never come.
 
What "need" do you presume ANY software was capable of meeting at the time OtsJuke (it's original name) was first promoted to DJs?

You can't look at the state of software in 2012 and then ask about a decision made in an earlier decade. For example, Serato didn't exist yet, and other brands were not what they are today.

It's also not all-or-nothing.. I have more than one DJ software I can use - and each has it's own benefits. Ots is the ONLY software that includes a long list of unfulfilled promises an non-existent upgrades. Things I paid for and never got. (..not a lot of money admittedly, but that's no excuse for running this upgrade scam of theirs.)

The other softwares aren't all peaches and cream either ... but they don't pull the kind of consistent bull--- that OtsLabs does. Not even Rick :)
But I assume it's been deficient for some time, making the current use perplexing.
 
You're welcome to invest your own effort and hear me live at any event you find me. I shouldn't have to tell you how desperate a person would need to be if making a video just to please a single disgruntled software coder. Don't hold your breath.


Sorta like the OTS upgrade, eh... ;)

So, you are as good as they are? Can't live up to your hype?

Sorry dude, but I have to give this an epic fail on your part.
 
I don't think anyone reading this thread cares to "understand me..." you have a monopoly on that perverse need. In case you missed it Einstein, I started this thread with a fixed opinion at the very first post. I have not wavered from that position at all . You had the option to disagree and leave it at that.

Instead you obsess over the need to change my opinion and replace it with your notion of "correctness." It must bug the sh-- out of you that you're powerless to change my mind. You're a fool and an insecure control freak... and most of all helpless to prevent yourself from the need to fire back and set the rules for correct thinking as you see it. Guess what- your "facts" are self serving and anally retentive - not enough to change my opinion of Ots and their upgrade scams.

You're also a fake... can't reveal what controller you use to mix with? Oops! That's right you're a "professional" wedding DJ and mixing isn't important right? Why not tell us how your other DJs use those 8 license to mix that 80,000 song library with Ots? Why not do as Rick suggests - here's your big chance to show us all just how great Ots is for mixing, and for video, etc. ROTFLMAO.

I don't even require that - just tell us what controller you use, you're mixing style, what other software and hardware you use. What's a matter - did you run out of real "facts" or are you all hot air when it comes to actual DJ skills?

I'm a fool and an insecure control freak, huh?

Hey I got a challenge. Why don't we see how long it takes you to find 10 people who thinks that's describing me, and how long it takes for me to find 50 people who'd say that perfectly describes you.

Your name calling is tiresome. At least try to add a little humor to the names

I don't care what you require. You can do your own research and find out how the mixing works on any software you'd like. You claim to be the expert. You show us how it doesn't work so well. Your not afraid that we"ll find out how much you really do know, are you?

I find it amusing that you ignore question after question. But the moment someone does not answer yours, you jump to a conclusion. I really don't care what you think
 
But I assume it's been deficient for some time, making the current use perplexing.

Why?
I still own the license, I'm still entitled to free upgrades to both Esperance and the elusive version 2.0

Where in the failure of Ots to deliver on their end of the bargain did I lose my right to obtain what I paid for and voice my opinion of the product and/or business ethics of proprietors responsible for those failures?
 
Ah-ha! .. and now you know the reason behind this thread.

...that more DJs will be aware enough to avoid products notorious for such.
That was a comment about my wonderful wife .. Not OTS.
 
Why?
I still own the license, I'm still entitled to free upgrades to both Esperance and the elusive version 2.0

Where in the failure of Ots to deliver on their end of the bargain did I lose my right to obtain what I paid for and voice my opinion of the product and/or business ethics of proprietors responsible for those failures?

When did they tell you 2.0 would be done? What were the exact details of their promise?

Did their original promise include video, karaoke, auto beat mixing?

While the upgrades have not been as fast as I'd like, I've received many things that I was not promised with the software originally. They've never broken a promise to me. Maybe they like me better:)
 
Why?
I still own the license, I'm still entitled to free upgrades to both Esperance and the elusive version 2.0

Where in the failure of Ots to deliver on their end of the bargain did I lose my right to obtain what I paid for and voice my opinion of the product and/or business ethics of proprietors responsible for those failures?
Just thinking I would have dropped it years ago if it didn't meet my needs. Well before any mention of 2.0 or Esperance.
 
Sorta like the OTS upgrade, eh... ;)

So, you are as good as they are? Can't live up to your hype?

Sorry dude, but I have to give this an epic fail on your part.

There's no logical connection there.
You've only posed a "dare" and no one cares to amuse you.
I think I can live with this "epic failure" on my part.
 
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