A question or two for solo ops who have multiple systems...

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DJRox : Way too broad a statement.
Can't call me the lone ranger in that regard.:sqwink:

Sometimes doesn't the tool enhance the quality of the job?
The operative word is "Sometimes".

Tools can, but do not necessarily, enhance the results. I've been the victim of absolutely horrendous performances from entertainers with very high quality gear. Low quality gear is also no guarantee of a shoddy performance, but is a relatively safe indicator.

Are you still using nothing but records?
No. Do you still drive a horse and buggy?:sqwink:

Does the noise level of the generator for the on-the-beach-front wedding ceremony factor in as long as they can hear the music?
My beach/sand gear runs on BS power so I just breathe quietly into the converter.

Does the post-event ear ringing matter as long as the event was fine?
Quality gear, played loudly, will not generate that side effect if managed properly.

A fella comes to give me a quote on a roof replacement. One drives a rusted out pickup. One drives a newer club cab truck but is dirty, has papers strewn everywhere. Another has a late model van, spotless, organized, and says I'm a pro. It's just a truck. It will haul everything to and from. The truck is just a tool. I am paying more attention to what the last guy is saying. It's part of the impression, even if they were all Mercedes.
Way to broad a criteria. Is there an echo in here? Anyways, as a responsible consumer, I'd use each of those observation as a component in my decision making process. Those vehicles will likely never appear at the site when the actual crew arrives.

Now, if one of those trucks parked on my lawn, I'd certainly use that as a deciding factor.


The choice of available tools is a mark of the business and performance choices any business make and a reflection of the owner/performer. Public perception goes a long way in that equation as well.
I decided long ago to devote as little attention as possible to public mis-perceptions. Can't make a die-hard Ford guy drive a Chevy Silverado.

Tool choices do make a difference, if a business person wants them to. Not, if they don't.
In 20 + years, possibly because I luckily and fortuitously learned early on to use and benefit from high/professional quality gear, I have never lost a desirable client because of the logo on my equipment. It has really only ever mattered to me and my desire to have the tools to perform as I see fit.
 
Rox : Try as I could, there's not a single argument or disagreement. Scary, huh?
 
Ok, let's put it this way.... let's just say you charge $750 for a wedding... and the vast majority of your weddings are 150 people or less.... Your speakers are a pair of EONS... perfectly acceptable speaker by many people's standards.
Now let's say you go buy a set of the bigger Dynacords.... $7K, I think.....
You still charging $750?


Yes,,,, same as if I buy a more powerful computer, or a better mixer. I am upgrading my equipment, that is on me.

When I bought my BOSE system I owned 14 JBL Mpro speakers that were less than 2 years old, and 6 QSC 3402 power amps. Not bad stuff and the sound was great.

It was my choice to upgrade to the BOSE.

We DJs are a unique breed. Our business is not like others and you can not put comparisons or standards to other business to ours.

We think differently, we choose to live our lives differently and people perceive us differently. Once you learn that you will be in a better space.

Accept who and what we are, and stop worrying about the other guys and how or what they do.
 
When I bought my BOSE system I owned 14 JBL Mpro speakers that were less than 2 years old, and 6 QSC 3402 power amps. Not bad stuff and the sound was great.

It was my choice to upgrade to the BOSE.
"Upgrade" is debatable. :sqwink:
 
On point of the subject matter, I have to agree with Houston, I charge according to setup size, time and difficulty.

I never charged more for JBL or EV speakers than I did for Peavey, I charged according to the above criteria!

A gig that required two speakers on a stick that could be setup in less than 10 minutes from unload to push play has a price a systwem using 20,000 watts with 8 18' subs and multiple 15"s and other speakers for coverage and required an hour of sound checks to get the sound right in a given space gets charged a whole lot more.

Charging for my talent be damned I am charging for my sweat!
 
My smaller system (RCF) is the same price as my larger system (Yorkville). The system I bring to the event is based on the size of the room and crowd. My priced is based on my talent.
 
My smaller system (RCF) is the same price as my larger system (Yorkville). The system I bring to the event is based on the size of the room and crowd. My priced is based on my talent.

Despite my ribbing of Thunder, there is a real value to different equipment requirements, configurations and, therefore, should be reflected in the fee.

Wouldn't it seem more beneficial to consider charging a fee that is commensurate with BOTH the talent component and the event/venue requirements?

That is why I have found it most useful to never propose a fee without enough information and/or venue experience and I let the potential know why.

Works for me, YMMV.

P.S. Why should clients that utilize my service but require a smaller equipment/personnel allocation pay the same as clients taxing a greater supply of resources. I certainly would not want to pay more for less.

P.S.S. "Hard work built the USA. Laziness is tryng to bring it back down
 
I do charge based on the full requirement for the venue and event. I was only making a point that I won't charge the client for a particular brand of system. If the event requires uplights, lighting or plasmas the client will pay for the add on.
If the venue is a tough load in and out that will be factured in also.
 
Despite my ribbing of Thunder, there is a real value to different equipment requirements, configurations and, therefore, should be reflected in the fee.

Wouldn't it seem more beneficial to consider charging a fee that is commensurate with BOTH the talent component and the event/venue requirements?

That is why I have found it most useful to never propose a fee without enough information and/or venue experience and I let the potential know why.

Works for me, YMMV.


That's what I'm saying, that talent and gear combinations can be priced differently.
 
Charging for my talent be damned I am charging for my sweat!

OOps! \Talent is an extra charge! If a Nascar driver is driving your Cab, won't you pay extra? LOL
 
That is why I have found it most useful to never propose a fee without enough information and/or venue experience and I let the potential know why.

You are absolutely correct! The Client does not have to "know" of the different packages. The DJ does! Based on what is required then the DJ knows which tools to utilize and thus charge accordingly.
 
I'd love to have a Bose system.

Yes, I'd price tier a bit.

For the typical wedding and typical room I'd offer 2 packages:

My normal Gear and Price.
Then a "Bose Upgrade" price for the suckas.
To me, its the only system name where marketing has the brides reminding themselves of the brand of their kitchen stereo. Hey, if it works, then sweet!

Can't hammer the customer! I'd love to get a Bose through Cap someday just because of their unique position in the minds of women alone. No other brand can boast it that I can think of.
 
I'd love to have a Bose system.

Yes, I'd price tier a bit.

For the typical wedding and typical room I'd offer 2 packages:

My normal Gear and Price.
Then a "Bose Upgrade" price for the suckas.
To me, its the only system name where marketing has the brides reminding themselves of the brand of their kitchen stereo. Hey, if it works, then sweet!

Can't hammer the customer! I'd love to get a Bose through Cap someday just because of their unique position in the minds of women alone. No other brand can boast it that I can think of.
It used to be they choose the DJ for his 12 inchers! Now I can offer a 15incher and a 18 incher!
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