That once in a million chance- happened to me: both pairs of powered speakers died

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bestdjinfl said:
Buy 2 RCF's you'll never have an issue :)
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Well, I'm sure they're good products, but I still prefer the QSCs over the RCF's. Right now I'm looking for something as a backup, not as a main speaker. Sometime in the next month or two, I want to go ahead and get another pair of subs and a pair of 3 way HPRs so investing in expensive tops isn't really my best option right now. I might consider them for ceremony speakers in the summer though.
 
Djcarolina said:
Well, I'm sure they're good products, but I still prefer the QSCs over the RCF's. Right now I'm looking for something as a backup, not as a main speaker. Sometime in the next month or two, I want to go ahead and get another pair of subs and a pair of 3 way HPRs so investing in expensive tops isn't really my best option right now. I might consider them for ceremony speakers in the summer though.
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Shouldn't back up gear perform the same as the ones being replaced? If not, there will be a difference in sound.
 
Buy a quality built product and you won't go wrong. If you are buying something in a factory where the employee's take pride in their work, the product will most likely be superior.

One nice thing about active speakers is that if one quits or starts acting up, you can simply swap the bad one out while the other keeps chugging away. When an amp blows with a passive system, you have dead air. Been there, done that.
 
ahoustondj said:
Shouldn't back up gear perform the same as the ones being replaced? If not, there will be a difference in sound.
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If one of my $900 QSC speakers goes out, the last thing i care about is making sure that the sound is precisely the same as the ones that blew. I can't justify having $2000+ invested in speakers that won't get used often.
 
For several years after my Mackie Died I had one back up Mackie in case of any situation. Buy one single to match your set Voila instant backup no need for a complete set as likely both of the same kind will not go. You had one of each rare but atleast if you had a backup match to throw up in place of the one you save lots of time and dont have to disturb the apple cart.
 
Djcarolina said:
If one of my $900 QSC speakers goes out, the last thing i care about is making sure that the sound is precisely the same as the ones that blew. I can't justify having $2000+ invested in speakers that won't get used often.
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Jon Tuck said:
For several years after my Mackie Died I had one back up Mackie in case of any situation. Buy one single to match your set Voila instant backup no need for a complete set as likely both of the same kind will not go. You had one of each rare but atleast if you had a backup match to throw up in place of the one you save lots of time and dont have to disturb the apple cart.
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This is what I meant!:sqbiggrin:
 
I've used powered speakers for a while now. I really wouldn't call them the newest thing out. I don't know if the equipment I use technically should be called a powered speaker. The amp is a separate piece although power does run through the speaker column.

I have not seen more issues with powered speakers than I did back when I used passive. Yes, good quality passive equipment is better than low end powered. Just as good quality powered equipment is better than cheap passive stuff.

Every thing you have has the possibility of failure. Ryan did it right by having equipment needed to finish the show. To suggest that having passive equipment would eliminate that possibility or significantly reduce the odds is simply not sound advice. Pun intended :)
 
Jon Tuck said:
For several years after my Mackie Died I had one back up Mackie in case of any situation. Buy one single to match your set Voila instant backup no need for a complete set as likely both of the same kind will not go. You had one of each rare but atleast if you had a backup match to throw up in place of the one you save lots of time and dont have to disturb the apple cart.
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I do this with sound systems and mics. I have 3 sennheiser ew100 g2's with me, same freq range. If a mic or receiver goes, just need to turn on another one....no need to set up a whole new set. Always nice to have interchangable parts.
 
Hey Ryan..

Theres a guy selling a QSC rig on another forum if your interested..

Speakers:
(2) QSC HPR153 3-way Main Speakers - 600w
http://www.qscaudio.com/products/speakers/hpr/hpr153f.htm
15" cone transducer with 3" voice coil | 6.5" horn loaded mid-range | 1.4" diaphragm compression driver | 133 dB peak
They work perfect, and are in good cosmetic condition (small scratches from use, nothing major)

(2) QSC HPR181 18" Subwoofers - 700w
http://www.qscaudio.com/products/speakers/hpr/hpr181i.htm
18" cone transducer with 4" voice coil | 134dB Peak
They work perfect, and are in very good cosmetic condition (small scratches from use, nothing major)

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I will sell all four QSC speakers as a package for $2750!!!
Will consider offers to split them into pairs!
I
 
Precisionpower said:
Hey Ryan..

Theres a guy selling a QSC rig on another forum if your interested..

Speakers:
(2) QSC HPR153 3-way Main Speakers - 600w
http://www.qscaudio.com/products/speakers/hpr/hpr153f.htm
15" cone transducer with 3" voice coil | 6.5" horn loaded mid-range | 1.4" diaphragm compression driver | 133 dB peak
They work perfect, and are in good cosmetic condition (small scratches from use, nothing major)

(2) QSC HPR181 18" Subwoofers - 700w
http://www.qscaudio.com/products/speakers/hpr/hpr181i.htm
18" cone transducer with 4" voice coil | 134dB Peak
They work perfect, and are in very good cosmetic condition (small scratches from use, nothing major)

--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
I will sell all four QSC speakers as a package for $2750!!!
Will consider offers to split them into pairs!
I
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I'm VERY interested in the 153i tops. [email protected] if he'd like to contact me, or if you wouldn't mind relaying the info. I might be interested in the subs too, but right now I'm only interested in the tops.

I should add that I did pick up a brand new pair of SRM450v2's today from my local guitar center. I found a good price on them online, price matched and picked em up. They're deff. not the QSCs I know and love, but theyre pretty good sounding and will serve their purpose until I add another pair of 122i's.
 
Djcarolina said:
I'm VERY interested in the 153i tops. [email protected] if he'd like to contact me, or if you wouldn't mind relaying the info. I might be interested in the subs too, but right now I'm only interested in the tops.

I should add that I did pick up a brand new pair of SRM450v2's today from my local guitar center. I found a good price on them online, price matched and picked em up. They're deff. not the QSCs I know and love, but theyre pretty good sounding and will serve their purpose until I add another pair of 122i's.
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UPDATE : SUBS ARE SOLD. I have one pair of tops left!

Priced to sell fast @ $1250 for the pair!


Ryan..I left him a reply on Prosoundweb with your e-mail address to contact you.
VIDEO : YouTube- QSC HPR HPR153 HPR181 Speakers For Sale
 
Bill Kexel said:
That's strange. I have used powered speakers for 10 years & never had a problem.
Is anyone else using your speakers? It sounds like someone is pushing them too much.

Now if you want to talk about problems?....With Passive, it was always something going wrong. Either Amp problems or speaker problems. Never again!

I have used powered Mackies, JBL, EVs..never a problem.
I too, suggest the new EV ZXA1 speakers. These sound like winners.
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Bill,

You may have had extremely good luck with the powered units you have had over the years.

I talked with two pro electronics repair people here locally about this very issue and I asked them what the greatest particular repair items that they work with and both of them said active speakers!

I had been keeping a local bowling alley's sound system running for two years (active speakers) and generally there was a repair once a month RCF speakers (but these speakers were old). Three months ago they had a new "Mackie" active system installed and in three months they have had three failures (out of 22 speakers).

Another alley I redid the passive system in, all the "cheap" speakers (and we are talking cheap) were working. 12 speakers hooked into a single Crown PB amp (that's right 6 on a side). This system had been in operation for 12 years. The only thing I was allowed to do with this system was relocate 6 of the speakers and add another amp.

I have RCF actives myself and the most common problem I have had with these units and the old units from the bowling alley are the gain pots having to be replaced!

I had a pair of Peavey actives which had a constant problem of cracking connections loose (I believe this problem was from vibration) I have since turned them in to passive units and they have presented no more problems!

I have passive systems installed at a bar that have never had problems and has been running 4 days a week for 8+ straight years and 4 different people are using it. I use it on Tuesday night, My girl June uses it on Thursdays, another guy runs open mic through it on Mondays and "college boy" runs through it on Fridays. Occasionally they will have a private party and a DJ hired for that will run through it!

My mobile passive system runs two nights or more a week and has not had any problems in 10+ years.
 
Thunder said:
Bill,


I talked with two pro electronics repair people here locally about this very issue and I asked them what the greatest particular repair items that they work with and both of them said active speakers!
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Could this be because active speakers are much more popular these days?

The only way to know what the above statement means as far as reliability is to know how many passive speakers systems and amps are being used in the same area the same amount of times that don't need service.

I am going off of my experience and from people I know, but I have not seen an increase in service when comparing active speakers to speakers and amps. Maybe some companies are better at making active speakers than others.
 
I am making the comparision based on my own experiences as well (owning both passive and active systems)

I also agree that some are made much better and are more reliable than others (also my experience with RCF, Mackie, Peavey) and honestly think the RCFs are probably the most reliable on the active market!
 
Thunder said:
Bill,

You may have had extremely good luck with the powered units you have had over the years.

I talked with two pro electronics repair people here locally about this very issue and I asked them what the greatest particular repair items that they work with and both of them said active speakers!

I had been keeping a local bowling alley's sound system running for two years (active speakers) and generally there was a repair once a month RCF speakers (but these speakers were old). Three months ago they had a new "Mackie" active system installed and in three months they have had three failures (out of 22 speakers).

Another alley I redid the passive system in, all the "cheap" speakers (and we are talking cheap) were working. 12 speakers hooked into a single Crown PB amp (that's right 6 on a side). This system had been in operation for 12 years. The only thing I was allowed to do with this system was relocate 6 of the speakers and add another amp.

I have RCF actives myself and the most common problem I have had with these units and the old units from the bowling alley are the gain pots having to be replaced!

I had a pair of Peavey actives which had a constant problem of cracking connections loose (I believe this problem was from vibration) I have since turned them in to passive units and they have presented no more problems!

I have passive systems installed at a bar that have never had problems and has been running 4 days a week for 8+ straight years and 4 different people are using it. I use it on Tuesday night, My girl June uses it on Thursdays, another guy runs open mic through it on Mondays and "college boy" runs through it on Fridays. Occasionally they will have a private party and a DJ hired for that will run through it!

My mobile passive system runs two nights or more a week and has not had any problems in 10+ years.
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Can you elaborate on the "Gain Pots" issue? I believe that could very well be the issue with my JBL. How much did it end up costing to get it fixed the times you had to do so?
 
Djcarolina said:
Can you elaborate on the "Gain Pots" issue? I believe that could very well be the issue with my JBL. How much did it end up costing to get it fixed the times you had to do so?
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Each time one was replaced it cost me $12 and about an hour R&R time! You can clean them but the problem will return pretty quick, it is best to just replace them. Sealed pots which some use really can't be cleaned!

Most of the time the issues will be popping and cracking when they are adjusted, and drops in volumes from time to time while in use, along with a pop or crack!
 
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