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I bought a very nice camera and took some pictures of a Bride at a reception I was djing. I liked the pictures and put them next to the table i meet my potential clients to sell them on my DJ service. Bride commented on how nice the pictures were and if i would be interested in taking pictures at her reception for a price. We agreed on a price and booked the date.

Am I now a professional photographer? For those that say "Yes" please explain.
 
Canute only see what he wants to see......and that's a very narrow tunnel...His..He'll tell you now the dictionary is wroing..

Somebody quote me; this will make him read this......

adjective
1.
following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder.
2.
of, pertaining to, or connected with a profession: professional studies.
3.
appropriate to a profession: professional objectivity.
4.
engaged in one of the learned professions: A lawyer is a professional person.
5.
following as a business an occupation ordinarily engaged in as a pastime: a professional golfer.

noun
10.
a person who belongs to one of the professions, especially one of the learned professions.
11.
a person who earns a living in a sport or other occupation frequently engaged in by amateurs: a golf professional.
12.
an expert player, as of golf or tennis, serving as a teacher, consultant, performer, or contestant; pro.
13.
a person who is expert at his or her work: You can tell by her comments that this editor is a real professional.
 
Steve LeBlanc said:
Canute only see what he wants to see......and that's a very narrow tunnel...His..He'll tell you now the dictionary is wroing..

Somebody quote me; this will make him read this......

adjective
1.
following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder.
2.
of, pertaining to, or connected with a profession: professional studies.
3.
appropriate to a profession: professional objectivity.
4.
engaged in one of the learned professions: A lawyer is a professional person.
5.
following as a business an occupation ordinarily engaged in as a pastime: a professional golfer.

noun
10.
a person who belongs to one of the professions, especially one of the learned professions.
11.
a person who earns a living in a sport or other occupation frequently engaged in by amateurs: a golf professional.
12.
an expert player, as of golf or tennis, serving as a teacher, consultant, performer, or contestant; pro.
13.
a person who is expert at his or her work: You can tell by her comments that this editor is a real professional.
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You got a quote Steve... :)
 
From Wikipedia: A professional is a person who is paid to undertake a specialized set of tasks and to complete them for a fee.

I said it earlier .. if you get paid for it, you're a professional (legalities aside).

There certainly are full-time professionals as well as career professionals, but do not exclude part-timers, underagers or hobbyists from the professional ranks.
 
I would like to see one try and get paid for doing Interior Design work or wire someone's home without a License and call themselves a Professional. They would be professionally arrested, taken to a professional court and fined a professional fee.

Next door neighbor's teen comes over and mows my lawn, I pay him $20.00. Now he is a Professional Landscaper, right?
 
No, he is a professional lawnmower operator.

;)

Cutting your grass is not the same as designing a landscape.
 
ahoustondj said:
I would like to see one try and get paid for doing Interior Design work or wire someone's home without a License and call themselves a Professional. They would be professionally arrested, taken to a professional court and fined a professional fee.

Next door neighbor's teen comes over and mows my lawn, I pay him $20.00. Now he is a Professional Landscaper, right?
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Or practice medicine or law ... DJs don't need licenses, so the comparison isn't clear.
 
That would be a fine topic to spawn ...
 
ahoustondj said:
They should, I wish they would!
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There's no criteria to judge a DJ by. Every event is different, every DJ has good and bad days.

What would you like on the "DJ Test":

1) How many Lady Gaga songs did you play last year?

2) Was your volume level -6db at every event.

3) Did you speak clearly into the mic each and every event.


There's no clearly definable criteria on which to test, and give a license.
 
You'd have to know your speaker spread tables.
 
Nah - you'll have to know how fast the electrons move down different guage wires. The proper generator to use for a given situation - to include generator volume levels. Which amp provides the best coverage for given venues. Which speaker provides the best coverage for given venues. Which microphone provides the best coverage for given venues. The proper way to use, store and clean 10", 12", 18" and larger multichannel mixers. The proper way to setup, clean, use and store Reel To Reel, Cassette, CD, 8 Track, Turntables (Direct and Belt), Digital Vinyl Decks, Digital Video Decks and new computer interface decks. In addition, you'll be tested on the proper construction and use of XLR, DMX, 1/4" and other cables and the setup and operation of devices on those cables. Also going to have to register and apply for a license with all states you play in and file a fee in all those states, as well as apply for ASCAP and BMI in said states. You will also be tested on your knowledge of BPM's, artists, song titles, Rockit, The Speaker Spread Tables, Corner Loading, how many Lady Gaga songs you played in the last year, volume level less than -6db at every event, speaking clearly. Also tested are the proper packing and unpacking of vehicles (car, pickup, van, trailer, cargo truck, trailer truck and airplane). You must also be a certified, licensed, bonded & insured AV packer (also for each state). Also how to properly disassemble, clean, store, rebuild and use speaker drivers. You will also be required to be a licensed speaker cleaner (insured and bonded) (also in all states you service) to perform these functions. Prior to the hookup, power up and testing of any equipment, you will have to schedule a meeting with a state rep so that they may ensure that the product meets its defined and specified criteria and operations.

Bonus questions will be based on the oscilloscope, Sine waves, Digital waves, Del's Lemonade and the Top 40 of each year over the last 100 years.

and this is only 10% of the test!
 
ahoustondj said:
I would like to see one try and get paid for doing Interior Design work or wire someone's home without a License and call themselves a Professional. They would be professionally arrested, taken to a professional court and fined a professional fee.

Next door neighbor's teen comes over and mows my lawn, I pay him $20.00. Now he is a Professional Landscaper, right?
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An Interior Decorator need a licence? In whose world? That's like saying an artist needs a license.

Does a picture framer need a license? If one has 3 jobs, are they a professional anything?
 
Valerie Hicks said:
the last thing we need is more government regulation. a business in south dakota must be registered with the state. what further licensing should be required? should we take a board exam to make sure we're electronically literate enough? prove our graduate degrees?
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What is so wrong with Government regulation? Do you think the Auto Manufacturers would really care if autos were knowingly sold with defects were it not for Government regulations and hefty fines. The Milk you drink, the medicines you buy etc. We always call for it after the fact. Engineers have to be licensed, riggers have to be licensed, so why not DJs.
 
Yes, but the "we" implies other things.
 
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