Looking to upgrade my PA/Speakers
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Maybe he should go on the Pro Sound Web Forum and seek the same kind of help. His post may be the only one on his thread. The silent response would be deafening.
In a college town, there's two different pools. The one that encompasses the campus and it's community and then there's the rest of town. Frat parties and open mic nights around campus and the campus community, that's the college pool, not our pool. I know at least around here this is true, I've been a DJ in both pools, they rarely overlap.
Not quite what I meant. I see your point but still no dice. While I wasn't poor in college, I was poor when I got into this biz. I see no difference because no money is no money - I don't care how you slice it.
Once again, how has he used it up 'til now? Did he just get it? I mean, he had to get it somehow. Has he used it before? No one knows. I CAN fit (1) 15" sub and (2) 10" drivers in my cars (old and new) Heck, I fit my 15's in the trunk alone. Can he use the 10's without the sub? I mean it IS a frat party - who cares about the sound and music when we can get 300 bucks of beer, right?
Edit: Also, if you CANNOT transport (1) 15" sub, how on earth would you transport 2?
A. It isn't an emergency .. It was just a request for advice
B. If you re-read the OP .. the kid just didn't want to lug around the sub .. it wasn't about fitting it into his car.
C. Very few of the posters here even offered advice based on the original post .. most diverged into lambasting someone because it didn't fit THEIR vision of what he should be doing
Get real people ... You all started somewhere and it wasn't with what you have now.
B. If you re-read the OP .. the kid just didn't want to lug around the sub .. it wasn't about fitting it into his car.
C. Very few of the posters here even offered advice based on the original post .. most diverged into lambasting someone because it didn't fit THEIR vision of what he should be doing
Get real people ... You all started somewhere and it wasn't with what you have now.
Speaking for myself I beg to differ. I approached this business seriously from the getgo back in the late 70s. My first professional contract was in a Club. I went out and bought a three way active network system. EV Tweeters, EV Midrange Horns and JBL Scoops. They are still in use today. Go look at my albums and see the pics. Lots of additions since those pics were taken.
Look, there's another DJ, or hopefull asking for advice from experienced guys. You can either help him or not, it's up to you. But before you start saying the kid isn't ready for it, or should look at other routes to go, why not stop and put yourselves in his shoes for a few minutes and stop making assumptions about him.
From everything I've heard, none of you have been involved in the DJ industry on a college campus in the day and age of the mp3 and downloading. If you can't understand that a different set of rules is used on campus, then by all means, head down to your nearest college and start preaching the good word of legal music libraries and see how fast you get ignored. Nobody cares where the music comes from as long as there's music and that's the reality of DJing on campus. If you have a legal library, it's either because you've been forced to, or you're just that damn proud to show off the collection.
From everything I've heard, none of you have been involved in the DJ industry on a college campus in the day and age of the mp3 and downloading. If you can't understand that a different set of rules is used on campus, then by all means, head down to your nearest college and start preaching the good word of legal music libraries and see how fast you get ignored. Nobody cares where the music comes from as long as there's music and that's the reality of DJing on campus. If you have a legal library, it's either because you've been forced to, or you're just that damn proud to show off the collection.
Good for you Houston. The vast majority of college kids don't have that kind of money floating around. There's a reason why ramen noodles are marketed to college kids, and it's not because they taste good.
If you can do it .. Great. But that ISN'T the case for most DJs, who start out with the occasional gig doing a friends wedding or a college party. I'm guessing 95%+ of DJs start with a minimal setup until they can 1) get enough music (legally I hope), 2) get enough experience and 3) get enough gigs to justify dropping the big bucks .. most do it for fun ..
Steve,
Most DJs don't do this as a business to earn a living. They do it as a Hobby or part time for extra spending money. I report my incomes that is why I am able to get lines of credit to invest in needed gear. A business is always a gamble but if you do it correctly you reduce the risk of failing and are thus more likely to succeed. The more you have to loose the more you will take what you do seriously.
If that is what is going on at the campuses...illegal downloading of music etc...... then this is not the place for them to come and ask for advise. We try to do things legal here and not perpetuate the illegal practices that plague our industry.
Not disagreeing with you .. THAT is the correct way to do it if you are in it as a business. Kudos.
BUT .. the OP isn't, at least as of now, so our responsibility is to help him move up the ladder .. not climb to the top in one step or push him off. We make suggestions, pose the options, reiterate the moral issues if necessary, but WE SHOULD NOT disparage.
There are always constraints, whether monetary, space, power, weight, size .. that drive all our decisions .. otherwise we'd all be running Rane mixers, Lab.Gruppen amps, Meyer speakers, etc. .. but we don't because of decisions based on the constraints. The OP had some .. we should oblige.
thanks Mac I guess I rarely offer good advice. I offered up a cheapest offering and the kid complained it didnt have enough power. Thats okay Im pretty much done with all this mess. Go buy a guitar amp from the pawn shop since it doesnt matter.
Yes .. but you offered it satirically .. and everyone knew it .. Given he has B-52s, it appears he knows a bit about equipment and a set of Taiwanese crap doesn't really count as sound advice, IMO. I stopped going to some of the other online forums for the same reason ..
Folks .. it's not that tough .. offer up advice for speakers that he can get in the $200-$300 range like originally posted and maybe an amp in the $200-$400 range to drive it in lieu of the powered amp if that is your advice and he can decide how to move forward. Maybe it's just me, but I know I can get decent sounding tunes of of a couple hand selected items in that range.
He said he had $400 to spend!!!!!! Now we are changing the number. So I will say for only 10,000 he can purchase the Dynacord System I own. Where is the freaking limit. I got him close to his number you arent going to get the power level he is looking for or the components to provide it for $400. Buying Pyle PRo or Chinese Mystery Meat selections are the most likely options within $400 budget
Steve thanks for being the ring official here. Your advice is about as worthy as mine no doubt. Beings we know that your from Prospect CT. What do you do for a living? Any other details about yourself? I really want to get to know you better as you seem like a really stand up guy with your can do help out attitude. Thanks for becoming a member of ODJT its an honor. Oh and just in case you didnt know it B52 systems arent the top of the perch. They are one of the better entry level offerings and made in the USA mostly.
Steve thanks for being the ring official here. Your advice is about as worthy as mine no doubt. Beings we know that your from Prospect CT. What do you do for a living? Any other details about yourself? I really want to get to know you better as you seem like a really stand up guy with your can do help out attitude. Thanks for becoming a member of ODJT its an honor. Oh and just in case you didnt know it B52 systems arent the top of the perch. They are one of the better entry level offerings and made in the USA mostly.
Not changing the number .. he has $500 to spend (the value of his B52s) .. I merely opined that if we are to make suggestions, we stay in that range. Offering a product slightly above that point is a reasonable stretch. Some of the responses seem to indicate that unless he spends a couple of grand it's not worth being a DJ. (If you add my numbers together, you'll see they cover the range of $400-$700 .. what I would consider in budget and with a stretch).
As for me, I'm a computer engineer and a consultant. I've also sold audio equipment in the past and have done live sound for 15 years .. DJing is mostly ad hoc. I have no pretensions that I know everything, unlike some here, just that I know how to analyze a problem and put together a reasonable solution .. that's been my job for the past 30 years.
And while B52s aren't the top of the perch, they aren't in the cellar either.
As for me, I'm a computer engineer and a consultant. I've also sold audio equipment in the past and have done live sound for 15 years .. DJing is mostly ad hoc. I have no pretensions that I know everything, unlike some here, just that I know how to analyze a problem and put together a reasonable solution .. that's been my job for the past 30 years.
And while B52s aren't the top of the perch, they aren't in the cellar either.