DJing With Traktor and Beatmatching (No Controller)

[tunes4046]

Rob, do you write DJ software?

I've been doing it for over 15 years, and have more than a million lines if code in Rockit alone.

So are you going to explain to me what pitch and tempo means?

BTW, get some hair

Wow, you'd think with all the time you've spent on it would be a more appealing better selling product, the main reason I didn't choose native controller support, and yes that is a VERY BIG DEAL.

 

[SoftJock Rick]

Wow, you'd think with all the time you've spent on it would be a more appealing better selling product, the main reason I didn't choose native controller support, and yes that is a VERY BIG DEAL.

The thing with Rockit, is you have to learn how to use it. What are the odds that you read the manual, know what al the pop up context menus do, etc.

If you go into our Library Manager, you can add tracks and watch folders, remove dupes, scan BPMs, change drive letters, check for bad links, update tags, and a bunch of other stuff.

Have you checked out our synch start function? Do you know to open our ques/waitlist window.

Did you know know you can load songs direct from the internet into a deck?

 

[steve149]

The thing with Rockit, is you have to learn how to use it. What are the odds that you read the manual, know what al the pop up context menus do, etc.

If you go into our Library Manager, you can add tracks and watch folders, remove dupes, scan BPMs, change drive letters, check for bad links, update tags, and a bunch of other stuff.

Have you checked out our synch start function? Do you know to open our ques/waitlist window.

Did you know know you can load songs direct from the internet into a deck?

But it still needs to read an iTunes library directly .. it's the one thing I really need above all else. The VDJ and PCDJ I have and the Serato I had, all read the library and playlists. I do not want to have to create them twice.

 

[SoftJock Rick]

But it still needs to read an iTunes library directly .. it's the one thing I really need above all else. The VDJ and PCDJ I have and the Serato I had, all read the library and playlists. I do not want to have to create them twice.

I don't deal with Apple or iTunes -- they tried to sue me once. They claimed that that I used their ideas, but I had done it before them. They can kiss my ass.


BTW, tunes -- there is a built in MIDI Learn facility, so you can build you own controller mapper

 

[steve149]

I don't deal with Apple or iTunes -- they tried to sue me once. They claimed that that I used their ideas, but I had done it before them. They can kiss my ass.


BTW, tunes -- there is a built in MIDI Learn facility, so you can build you own controller mapper

I don't think there are any proprietary pieces there .. it's just a few data files that have the mapping information in them.

The other apps have done it ... C'mon .. you can have it done by Sunday.

 

[SoftJock Rick]

I don't think there are any proprietary pieces there .. it's just a few data files that have the mapping information in them.

The other apps have done it ... C'mon .. you can have it done by Sunday.

Nope, have no desire to deal with Apple. Buy your songs from Amazon, save the whales, and recycle your beer cans,

 

[steve149]

Nope, have no desire to deal with Apple. Buy your songs from Amazon, save the whales, and recycle your beer cans,

It's not where the songs are from .. I can get at the songs ... it's the fact I use iTunes to manage the files and the playlists since it is common to at least 4 applications or devices I use to play from.

 

[tunes4046]

The thing with Rockit, is you have to learn how to use it. What are the odds that you read the manual, know what al the pop up context menus do, etc.

If you go into our Library Manager, you can add tracks and watch folders, remove dupes, scan BPMs, change drive letters, check for bad links, update tags, and a bunch of other stuff.

Have you checked out our synch start function? Do you know to open our ques/waitlist window.

Did you know know you can load songs direct from the internet into a deck?

Too big of a learning curve, yet another reason not to buy, I wanted to be able to download to my laptop, do a very quick set up to my controller and start playing music. I am assume at least 80% of people feel the same way

 

[SoftJock Rick]

It's not where the songs are from .. I can get at the songs ... it's the fact I use iTunes to manage the files and the playlists since it is common to at least 4 applications or devices I use to play from.

Steve. if I'm not mistaken, you are proud owner of Rockit. Our library is 10 times better than iTunes, and we don't run helper programs that constantly index your hard drives,

Try playing with our Library Manager -- you might actually like it,,,

 

[steve149]

Steve. if I'm not mistaken, you are proud owner of Rockit. Our library is 10 times better than iTunes, and we don't run helper programs that constantly index your hard drives,

Try playing with our Library Manager -- you might actually like it,,,

I do own it .. but since I ALSO use VDJ and PCDJ .. and I manage the music for my iPad and iPhone .. iTunes IS my music manager, regardless of the strengths of the individual apps. I switch back and forth enough to realize that using iTunes makes the most sense FOR ME.

I have tried to work around the limitation by pointing the Rockit library at the iTunes files directly and it works, but I really need those playlists that I use to separate genres, decades, special songs, etc. I don't want to do that differently for each application, nor do I want to update things every time I update iTunes.

If your saying that it will never be in Rockit, I'm ok with that .. I just can't use it.

 

[SoftJock Rick]

If your saying that it will never be in Rockit, I'm ok with that .. I just can't use it.

You might want to get into the learning curve.

I spent about 8 years in college -- yet you are not willing to spend 8 hours to learn to use your software... WTF

 

[steve149]

You might want to get into the learning curve.

I spent about 8 years in college -- yet you are not willing to spend 8 hours to learn to use your software... WTF

I have no problem learning the software, but being a software specialist, I do have some quirks around how the software needs to accommodate ME, not the other way around.

Like I said, I just don't want to have to do it differently for each app or even do something like library management more than once. If VDJ, PCDJ and iTunes can read the ROckit Library and playlist format directly with no massaging, it may be a consideration.

 

[SoftJock Rick]

I have no problem learning the software, but being a software specialist, I do have some quirks around how the software needs to accommodate ME, not the other way around.

Like I said, I just don't want to have to do it differently for each app or even do something like library management more than once. If VDJ, PCDJ and iTunes can read the ROckit Library and playlist format directly with no massaging, it may be a consideration.

Steve, Rocit's library is an XML file. It's pretty simple, you can edit in Notepad, We can also import M3U playlists. export to various formats.

Full comm server built in, Feel free to write your own iPod or Android app to interface with it.

Rockit is not a piece of software -- it is a platform. You can do all sorts of weird sh_t with it. I didn't build it a program like PCDJ, VDJ or Traktor or Serato. It's meant to be customize by the user. If you do not have the ability to do that --spend the $300 to $500 for the other sh_t. I charge $79 bucks, and my stuff is better.

 

[steve149]

Steve, Rocit's library is an XML file. It's pretty simple, you can edit in Notepad, We can also import M3U playlists. export to various formats.

Full comm server built in, Feel free to write your own iPod or Android app to interface with it.

Rockit is not a piece of software -- it is a platform. You can do all sorts of weird sh_t with it. I didn't build it a program like PCDJ, VDJ or Traktor or Serato. It's meant to be customize by the user. If you do not have the ability to do that --spend the $300 to $500 for the other sh_t. I charge $79 bucks, and my stuff is better.

Your software .. you decide how to position it. Unfortunately I am looking for a simple piece of software that talks to the controller I have and to the file structure I use without doing any work. I'm getting lazy.

 

[MIXMASTERMACHOM]

Canute I bought the Pioneer EFX 1000 remix so I can have effects that VDJ doesn't give me. To me the effects are better on the 1000 then VDJ. My Denon 6000 has a feature to loop songs. There is an automatic setting if you like to use it. All that is needed is to press the button at the right time. I personally love love my 1000 and 6000! I'm a bad man with what I use. Either way what ever you use you need to know what you're doing with whatever you're using. Just having it won't matter.

Now I have friends of mine that for example like the Denon 2500. I personally hate that unit. It's not free flowing with the wheel for me. I like a wheel that moves freely. I hate trying to beat mix with just pushing a button alone. Others can do it easily but for me it's a pain in the butt.

 

[ahoustondj]

Canute I bought the Pioneer EFX 1000 remix so I can have effects that VDJ doesn't give me. To me the effects are better on the 1000 then VDJ. My Denon 6000 has a feature to loop songs. There is an automatic setting if you like to use it. All that is needed is to press the button at the right time. I personally love love my 1000 and 6000! I'm a bad man with what I use. Either way what ever you use you need to know what you're doing with whatever you're using. Just having it won't matter.

Now I have friends of mine that for example like the Denon 2500. I personally hate that unit. It's not free flowing with the wheel for me. I like a wheel that moves freely. I hate trying to beat mix with just pushing a button alone. Others can do it easily but for me it's a pain in the butt.

Mix, they may say what they want about you but at least you may be able to teach some a thing or two about Mixing not just pushing play!

 

[rickryan.com]

Sure! Not because you are not capable of doing something do you have to dis what others are doing. To me that spells "Insecurity". Why not just go do your thing and leave well alone. Talk about what you are going to do not what others are doing.

I did not diss you. I gave an opinion and shared client feedback. I regularly have prospects who bring up "pieces of song" and, to date, 100% stated they didn't like it nor did they want it at their event. If it works for you then great.

 

[SoftJock Rick]

Your software .. you decide how to position it. Unfortunately I am looking for a simple piece of software that talks to the controller I have and to the file structure I use without doing any work. I'm getting lazy.

Here's the thing -- if your iTunes files are MP3 or WAV, Rockit can load and ply them fine.

If you want to have some amusing fun, open Task Manager, for a process called iTunesHelper. If you expand the column header to show I/O reads and writes, you will understand what that process is doimg, and you will soon figure you can't shut it down.

Do you realize how much that slows down your computer. You have no choice, it will load on Win startuo.

 

[jokerswild]

Paranoia

 

[ahoustondj]

I did not diss you. I gave an opinion and shared client feedback. I regularly have prospects who bring up "pieces of song" and, to date, 100% stated they didn't like it nor did they want it at their event. If it works for you then great.

In 35 years of doing DJing and Weddings (I don't do as many as i used to years ago) I have never had that discussion with a client. Based on your post in # 13 it seems like you feel the need to "educate" the Client on your Push Play Style of DJing. It is not just Client Feedback. I know of no Client who would give that kind of feedback anyway unless it was solicited. They would either like your selections or hate it! Here is your Quote "I regularly educate prospective brides (sure, not everyone does weddings) about this and they universally agree. When we also discuss the concept of playing (mostly) complete songs versus flipping back and forth between multiple tunes, I've yet to run into one who wants partial songs. In fact, I pretty regularly have prospects to bring it up as something that annoys them at other weddings. You guys keep fighting about this crap. Thanks, it puts money in my pocket". That is putting down someone else to build up yourself. Later today I am doing a Wedding and I plan to do just what I always do, mix music. I have not had a complaint yet.