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Brian it seems like the principal or whoever it was sort of played the bully role. He had no right to approach it like he was talking down to a student. Even though he was he used a sarcastic choice to label you the business man while talking to you like you were a third grader. Id start off the night with NWA-F tha Police and if he doesnt intervene your set. Showin that Glock and looking strait outta Compton at him will let you know the rest of the nights potential. LOL Sorry but I hate A hole Administrators who think all should bow down to them in any case.

Yes thats exactly what happened. Today, I did a "site survey" with him and the student council advisor, because this show is going to be huge and we have large power requirements and other things we needed to check on etc. Once I got to know him, he was completely different, the sense of humor came out and I felt alot better about working with him. I think that yes, in front of his superiors he pulled the censorship/bully card to cover his ass, and yes, that did scare me a bit, but thanks to everyone's input here I'm thinking that it'll turn out okay.

Greets, Brian.

You've gotten excellent responses in this thread... not a lot I can add to the discussion of music. Thanks, guys. :)

If it's any help I have had school admin people talk down to me on several occasions before DJing a school dance. And I'm nearly old enough to be their father, lol. I guess it's something they're trained to do.

As I'm sure you are aware, most of these admin types tend to talk in boilerplate language. I agree that this particular person's demeanor was unprofessional. But let's concentrate on what he said, not the manner in which he said it.

He (and I'm presuming, his superiors) are just voicing the old CYA approach. In other words, they informed the DJ company owner about their policy concerning music. The concern is not so much about innuendo in lyrics. Rather, these folks are more likely thinking about the hard-core rap stuff that's filled with swearing and degrading lyrics.

I have no doubts about your ability to run a great dance show at that school. You just need to alleviate their doubts, that's all.

Now that that's out of the way, let's spin some tunes and rock the house. :)

Thoughts?

Yes Fred, I believe he was just voicing those concerns to do so in front of his superiors, and after getting to know him a little bit better today, I don't feel that this will be as big of an issue as I thought it would be.

Brian - Of anyone here I am probably the most cautious when it comes to music selection for children, especially middle school....

Every song has sexual connotations....but this is high school...18 year olds; adults and near adults..... I'd have no problems playing most any radio edit...I wouldn't play Crank Dat or 3 or If you seek Amy...but that's me....Is the principal going to have an issue with Tik Tok or Sexy Chick?

Unless you get an "approved" list, I fear you may be in for a world of hurt

Good point, I'm going to talk to him one final time this week to tie everything together, and make sure to let him know that all of my music is certified radio clean by the FCC, and that I will do my best to ensure that all sexual and bad connotations stay out of the music. I am usually very cautious, but after the last mitzvah I did where the kids all screamed "****" during my clean edit of 3OH3's Don't Trust Me, I feel that being extra cautious is the only way to proceed.

I am ABSOLUTELY here to help, especially those who don't already know it all. I can relate to them better, because I don't know it all, either. :sqcool:

Let's get specific, and help Brian build a playlist, which he can use, or totally abandon, at his discretion. I definitely agree with the notion that what you can play at a high school differs from what you can play at a middle school. However, ALL of this will vary from school to school. THIS school is watching the D.J. (Brian) very carefully, at least this first time.

Brian, what music genres do you believe you'll need at this school? Example: if the school leans heavily urban, the content of the new Britney Spears single may not matter, since no one will be interested in having it played. I would do my best to avoid ANY words that might be "hot button" for this administrator. Can you get away with it? Possibly. I just don't think it's a point worth pushing, if you don't have to. Example: if this school is interested in country, I might play one of the *ssless versions of "Toes" by Zac Brown Band. Language is easy, the harder part is CONTENT. I disagree with those who stayed away from "Crank Dat". While there has been speculation on what the lyrics mean, I simply don't think there's clear enough meaning to determine "yes, this song is obscene". It's innuendo, at most, and LOTS of songs have innuendo. I might not play it now, simply because it's outdated and over.

Brian, please tell us more about this school, and what songs you anticipate playing, and/or songs you have specific content questions about, and let's hash 'em out.

Steve, I have no doubt you're here to help as best you can, like everyone else here but after listening to this administrator talk down to me for 15 minutes, your comment came off a bit harsh, but I know you mean well so no worries. As far as a playlist, honestly I have never done a dance from a playlist, and am the kind of DJ that will change my next song selection 3 times in the last 10 seconds of a song. This school is in the "Rich" part of town, but has a pretty prevalent portion of the student body that will only dance to hip hop, rap, and the new "jerkin" music. In light of these circumstances however, I'm considering making a list of the latest urban/rap songs that would work for this dance.
 
Thanks, Brian.

A bit off-topic but I'd like to share this one with the group:

Years ago I was booked to do a middle school dance (the off-topic part). I'd been DJing dances at this particular school for over a year and we'd all had a good run.

Well, my client, a 7th grade teacher mentioned that the school had recently gotten a new principal and they all wanted to make a good first impression. The new principal would be at the dance. If anything wasn't satisfactory, there may not be no more dances.

Forgive an old guy, please, lol. I remember school principals from the early '60s. Stern, browbeating guys who were like Joe Friday in the old Dragnet TV series. These guys stood in the hallway with a wooden paddle in their hands. :eek:

But I digress. I told the teacher we'd all be fine. For good measure, she could ask the new principal if there was any music he'd like to hear played. Let me know.

Anyway, we got the dance going, the house lights dimmed and the floodgates opened. We were a half hour into it and I hadn't noticed any new principal... no one had said anything. So I caught up with my client to ask.

She said "That's her, sitting at the table over there." I looked over and saw a woman, 25-ish and holding a baby.
I was like... that's the new school principal??:wtf:
She was. Her husband had been called into work last minute so she brought the pup along.

And she got up and danced with the students to several numbers. Got in the conga line and all. She told my client later that she'd had the time of her life that evening. :)
 
If I posted the playlist form the b-day party that I djed last night, for two kids that turned 13, that was requested by the two Guest of Honor, and reviewed by the parent's of all the kids that were in attendance, some of you guys would have a heart attack and call me the devil:sqerr::sqeek::sqeek::sqlaugh::sqlaugh:
 
I believe your solution is simple, put yourself a playlist of songs you plan on playing, provide the school with this list and get pre-approval, provide an opportunity to "visit" with the very administrator that gave you the warning and allow him/her to liten to the actual songs, provide a playlist approval "signature" at the bottom for this administrator to sign. Put the ownership back on the school to direct you in whats clean. Granted, this might get some songs you would consider "clean" taken off your playlist, but better to know which songs will be questioned ahead of time instead of after the fact. If the meeting is declined, then you have your out should the school then approach you later with issues.
 
I believe your solution is simple, put yourself a playlist of songs you plan on playing, provide the school with this list and get pre-approval, provide an opportunity to "visit" with the very administrator that gave you the warning and allow him/her to liten to the actual songs, provide a playlist approval "signature" at the bottom for this administrator to sign. Put the ownership back on the school to direct you in whats clean. Granted, this might get some songs you would consider "clean" taken off your playlist, but better to know which songs will be questioned ahead of time instead of after the fact. If the meeting is declined, then you have your out should the school then approach you later with issues.

This is a definitive solution, but way too time consuming. In MY case, it wouldn't have been worth my time. I just played generally what the sponsors wanted and now I have decision if I ever want the gig again.....Just speaking about my hijack above....


Good, definitive answer though man...
 
Don't play anything that YOU personally think is a problem.

Ask the sponsor if there are any songs that he thinks are a problem... and don't play those.

Tell the sponsor and principal that they can come to you at any time during the show if something worries them.

After the dance, if there were any issues, they will tell you and you can adjust for the next one.

I have notes and "no play lists" for each school.

Each school will have their own "issues" and you just have to adjust. A perfect example is Soulja Boy "crank that" . Half of my schools are ok with it, half are not. I play the radio edit at the schools who want it. Most see it as a patricipation dance song. Nothing more. Jon Tuck led me to the light on it though. LOL

One more tip. I'm part of this advisory group and we look at song lyrics and rate them for school play. We generate a list every month. look at this and print it http://www.noplaylist.com/bin/npl-csvread-print.pl?order_by=artist&order=abc&page=0&approved=Y

I don't agree with every song listed on there, but this list would satisfy most private school principals and it is a great place to start to be in a "SAFE ZONE" Don't play songs on this list and you should be ok. Feel free to call me if you need help 909 580-7829
 
Thanks for all the help everyone! I've taken the inititive and already subscribed to Prime Cuts Monthly MP3, which consists of 50-60 songs every week in 320k MP3 format, and very clean! I'm just going to do my best on judging the musical selections for this event. I'm hoping that having 800 bodies in the room will absorb the sound enough so that between the bodies and the gym echo, the administration at the back of the room won't go crazy over the occasional "ass" or simple FCC clean curse word :sqlaugh:
 
CreativeDJs,

Just checked out this website, looks awesome for any DJ! Have you been using it alot? Has anyone else?

http://www.noplaylist.com/

Very cool!

Yes, I've known about it for a few years. One of my school accounts told me about it.

If you are serious about school events like I am, you should join the site and get listed. There is a market for DJs that care about not playing suggestive songs. I have over 30 schools alone that go by the no play list.
 
CreativeDJs,

Just checked out this website, looks awesome for any DJ! Have you been using it alot? Has anyone else?

http://www.noplaylist.com/

Very cool!

With all due respect, check out this site a bit closer. There was a discussion on another board about it. It apparently is owned by a DJ company; they are advocating that you pay them a fee to be listed as a "clean" dj service....sounds a bit self serving to me....

They're suggesting that the hottest song on radio: "Tik Tok" isn't suitable for high school; Right Round though is OK

I think as responsible business owners we should be able to make decisions about what is clean and what isn't....Allowing some TP organization who's goals seem to be a bit less that altruistic....don't know if I'm all for that...
 
I thought we'd actually be discussing music content in this thread. Other than Leblanc and I, we haven't been.

Steve, what's your views on "Tik Tok" and how about "Good Girls Go Bad"?
 
All the Promo Only -RADIO series are clean if Promo Only feels there may be an issue with even the clean versions they clean it up even more.

Don't look at it as a dance at your school think of it as a dance at ardrey kell just another school in your staple and treat it like any other school having said that high school students in North Carolina will grind to anything.

I did a dance at Charlotte Latin where the administrator said absolutely no grinding music and no grinding i told him i wouldnt play typical grinding songs. I played something then the administrator asked if i could play chicken fried... you guessed it the kids still grinded....

oh well

and yeah send me a dm or email to handle that other thing man its looking like i may be on my feet again in 2010
 
I thought we'd actually be discussing music content in this thread. Other than Leblanc and I, we haven't been.

Steve, what's your viewa on "Tik Tok" and how about "Good Girls Go Bad"?

Steve Sharp - I've taken Tik Tok and edited it down to where I feel i can play it at my next ms dance (in two weeks)....the bottle in no longer "jack", "tipsy"....is nonexistent....the boys are not getting drunk drunk, but are now getting "crunk crunk".

I've always made decisions about songs based on the tone and overall intent of a song...lyrics are secondary....

That being said...Tik Tok may get played; 3 won't...


as for "good girls gone bad"; it hasn't been requested....looking at the lyrics....I may just pass
 
With all due respect, check out this site a bit closer. There was a discussion on another board about it. It apparently is owned by a DJ company; they are advocating that you pay them a fee to be listed as a "clean" dj service....sounds a bit self serving to me....

Steve - it is owned by a DJ company, but they have taken the time to do research on the music and provide a list of their results. The list is free to use by anyone.

I actually found out about the site through a school district that I have an account with.

There is a buzz about the site among schools and they look at it. I did pay the $50 fee and have booked 4 new schools from it.

As a member, you can contribute to the list. Every month, I get an e-mail with new adds to the list and can give input.

I've had great results.

They're suggesting that the hottest song on radio: "Tik Tok" isn't suitable for high school; Right Round though is OK


Right round is on the list for not appropriate at Middle school. Tik Tok is not on the list yet, but should be for middle school no play due to liquor references.

I don't agree with everything on the list, but if you don't do schools alot or are not familiar with all the new music, this is a great resource.
 
Yes, I've known about it for a few years. One of my school accounts told me about it.

If you are serious about school events like I am, you should join the site and get listed. There is a market for DJs that care about not playing suggestive songs. I have over 30 schools alone that go by the no play list.

Chris i love that mug shot
 
Brian

take Chris' advice to heart he is the king of school dances when I worked for him we did every school in the area. We were also big involved in the "Freak Dancing" debocle in the late 90s where school systems were very anti "freak" we were even going to get rulers printed with our logo on them because the kids needed to stay 6" apart remember that chris?


Kyle
 
Yes I do!

Kyle, check that site, there's nobody listed in your market. Take advantage of that angle. The timing couldn't be more perfect.

We would have kicked MAJOR MAJOR butt in the dc area again and again if John Lee Malvo and John Mohammed hadnt fd that all up in 2002... geeeezz


and which market.. dont answer that here email me...

kyle