Have you guys tried low-lying fog?

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I've noticed "fast dissipation" fog juice and today I spotted a "low-lying fog" juice at Guitar Center today. They're supposedly for any standard fog machine. I've been thinking about starting to offer dry ice for a "dancing in the clouds" effect but this sounds interesting.

Anybody tried either of these?
 
Yea, I too see the resistance from venues on fog. But I think that's from general foggers that fill the air. What I've got in mind is doing the "dancing in the clouds" thing for the first dance. I've been thinking about dry ice but then saw this and wondered if it actually worked.
 
The only time I've seen it used with an incredible effect was when it was subbed out to a local special effects guy. He used a real pro unit with a big gas cylinder on the rig. It did not use regular fog as that rises when it warms and will ruin all the photos. Dry ice type fog dissipates and completely vanishes into thin air, so it does not affect the photos.

I took this photo at the wedding:
 

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The other problem is: some people have very sensitive respiratory systems or allergies, I've been to events where guests are hacking & coughing because the particles are still in the air.

Why risk ruining an evening for famly members or guests?

I threw my fogger in the trash 8 yrs ago.
 
The only machine I know of that can do this right is the Pea Souper from Le Maitre. But you also have to keep the room air still. Meaning you need to keep people somewhat still and turn off any heat of air conditioning while doing this effect. Fog is VERY sensitive to air movement.
 
Worked in my bathroom,but I produced it, and the mouse never returned....

Oh wait, you mean DJ related......nevermind...:sqlaugh:
 
rickryan.com said:
Yea, I too see the resistance from venues on fog. But I think that's from general foggers that fill the air. What I've got in mind is doing the "dancing in the clouds" thing for the first dance. I've been thinking about dry ice but then saw this and wondered if it actually worked.
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The last time my fog machine was used was by a construction company that rented it to do a leak test on a HVAC system in a building. I can't remember the last time I used it at an event. Venue managers don't care whether you have low lying fog or regular fog. In their minds fog=fog.

I've seen the converted fog machines that run fog thru a compartment filled with ice to cool it down; and I've seen the dry-ice-in-hot-water routine. Both have logistical problems involving a lot of water, and if that water spills and ruins the carpet, guess who will have to pay for it? At one event I was involved with years ago, a company (not me) had to replace an entire wood gym floor after their water container for the dry ice leaked and ruined the wood.


Bill also mentioned respiratory problems, which could be a real concern at weddings with older people, more than at school dances with a bunch of kids.
 
DJ Wes said:
The only machine I know of that can do this right is the Pea Souper from Le Maitre. But you also have to keep the room air still. Meaning you need to keep people somewhat still and turn off any heat of air conditioning while doing this effect. Fog is VERY sensitive to air movement.
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LeMaitre (Now Ultratec) also makes an effect called the LSG which is WAAYYY cooler than the Pea Souper (and WAAYY more expensive) and and Antari has a new unit out called the DNG-200 which is also very good. The Antari ICE machine is about the only decent inexpensive one out there... the Mister Kool and other similar less expensive machines are a big disappointment.

Noteworthy clarification, it is not the fluid that makes it low lying, it is the machine. The machine chills the fog... cold air sinks, thus the fog stays low. The effect works best with thin fluids and that is what the low lying fog solution is.

Ben
 
I made a Dry Ice Fogger years ago, it worked great. It was a plastic barrel with a plastic flexible hose hooked close to the top. The barrel was put on a wooden stand and had a spicket on the side at the bottom for draining when done. Put on the water, easily put in the dry ice when needed, turn on the fan at the end of the plastic hose.
Only bad thing was I had no way to shut it off once I put in the dry ice. I don't even thing they made fog machines back in those days.

Now I have a fog machine that I have not used in about 5 years. My contract has a whole paragraph about the liabilities involved and that the purchaser assumes any and all cost resulting from the use of fog, and the cost of any permits needed for it.
 
Doug said:
I made a Dry Ice Fogger years ago, it worked great. It was a plastic barrel with a plastic flexible hose hooked close to the top. The barrel was put on a wooden stand and had a spicket on the side at the bottom for draining when done. Put on the water, easily put in the dry ice when needed, turn on the fan at the end of the plastic hose.
Only bad thing was I had no way to shut it off once I put in the dry ice. I don't even thing they made fog machines back in those days.

Now I have a fog machine that I have not used in about 5 years. My contract has a whole paragraph about the liabilities involved and that the purchaser assumes any and all cost resulting from the use of fog, and the cost of any permits needed for it.
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I was thinking about something like this using the heavy plastic 5 gallon buckets from Home depot and creating a "top" that had a pulley system that would direct the steam and allow for me to dip dry ice in a netted bag as I needed it.

Only problem is how do you heat the water and how do you make it seem less like how the gas chamber execution works :)
 
I had a short hose I hooked to the bottom of a water heater and got 5 gal at a time, put 20 gal in the barrel. before putting in the dry ice with some old ice tongs from the days before refrigerators when they used ice boxes
 
PeteT said:
Mikey Mike on YouTube has the UltraTec Dry Icer - seems really cool!
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I like the effect, but agree that the unit is somewhat ugly (which by itself is not a problem because I'm ugly too lol)

A couple of questions-
What is the power draw for the unit?
How much dry ice is needed, and does it need to be put in the unit immediately before use?
 
Interesting choice of music.
Cool effect, but I'd be afraid of someone falling & blaming it on your fog.
Would your liability insurance cover you?
 
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