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You are thinking about it from the perspective of an audio phile. Nobody at a wedding ceremony is that.

List of their concerns:

1. Can the officiant be heard?
2. Was there any bad/embarrassing feedback issues?
3. Was there signal drop outs?
- If there were any signal drop outs, was there just 1 quick one, or multiple ones, or was half the ceremony literally not picked up?

No MIC system is perfect. A very expensive mic system will surely minimize those issues, but is it worth the investment for a DJ? Some say yes, Some say no.
I agree none is perfect, but I'm not thinking about it from an audiophile standpoint (whole different set of criteria) .. I'm thinking of it from a "professional" standpoint. I guarantee someone or ones are noticing it .. might not say something, but since many see other presentations (either at church, or on stage or at work) .. they compare mentally.

Am I the only one who tries to better things EVERY time?
 
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... No MIC system is perfect. A very expensive mic system will surely minimize those issues, but is it worth the investment for a DJ? Some say yes, Some say no.

^^^^ This is the crux of the argument. I’ve read all sides of this debate in this and previous threads, but nobody wins this debate. There is no solution that can be applied to every DJ in every situation. All of us have our own clientele and business plans. Regional factors create differing scenarios. My business plan would not work for full time DJ’s working every week in the year. I don’t do weddings (therefore no ceremonies). I don’t offer Karaoke. I only do 10-12 gigs a year. My clients rarely require more than one microphone, and usually for not more than 15-20 minutes of an event. My clients hire me to play music, primarily. They want a DJ to provide music entertainment, and occasional MC services. All of the DJ’s in my area provide similar services including dance lights and at least one microphone at prices competitive with mine. Some have better mics than mine; some don’t. Could I afford to buy more expensive mics???... Yes. If I thought they’d provide ANY competitive advantage or a reasonable ROI, I’d have them already. If some day I can justify them (or just want to buy them for my own piece of mind), I’ll buy better mics. In the meantime, my GTD systems work quite satisfactorily, and my wired mics work nicely when I use them. Over my long 35 year IT career, I’ve given hundreds of speeches and large training events in venues with “professional” sound techs. I know what sounds good and what sounds bad. My system sounds good, and my clients get excellent value, which is why I have plenty of repeat clients and can pick and choose my events.

I’ll add one more bit of info. Many of the venues I work no longer employ full time professional sound techs. Most have clerks who have been trained to set things up in a prescribed configuration, but have absolutely no idea how anything works if asked to make adjustments. These venues contract for installation, maintenance, and repairs with local audio firms. As inexperienced as I am at this stuff, I know much more about how things are set up in many of the venues I work than their “sound techs” know.

The GEAR SNOBS will always insist that anyone who does not buy the brand or level of quality as they buy are not a professional. That’s BS. Those who make such statements have no concept of what professional means. Your gear does not make you a professional. Your ability to repeatedly sell and deliver YOUR services and meet your clients expectations is what makes you a professional.
 
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I would rather have 1 solid wireless mic, than several sub-par ones. Can always fill in with a wired mic or rent one if needed. I'm getting myself away from "good enough" to something better.
 
I would rather have 1 solid wireless mic, than several sub-par ones...

I think that’s good. You get to decide what you consider “sub par” for you, and others are free to decide what THEY consider sub par for them. If someone believes ANY of their gear is sub par, they should replace it IMO.[emoji4]
 
I think that’s good. You get to decide what you consider “sub par” for you, and others are free to decide what THEY consider sub par for them. If someone believes ANY of their gear is sub par, they should replace it IMO.[emoji4]
I think as professionals, our input goes into the definition of "sub par" for others as well .. :)
 
I think as professionals, our input goes into the definition of "sub par" for others as well .. :)

I guess you can think what you want... if it makes you feel better.[emoji1] Personally, I think it’s the HEIGHT of arrogance when someone thinks THEY are the only one who knows what sounds good, and someone else doesn’t. Until such time that we have FEDERAL DJ standards we must follow, I’ll decide for myself. I’ll listen to other’s opinions, but ultimately I’ll decide for myself. I’m not saying there are not people whose opinions I value, because YOU know there are.[emoji4]
 
I guess you can think what you want... if it makes you feel better.[emoji1] Personally, I think it’s the HEIGHT of arrogance when someone thinks THEY are the only one who knows what sounds good, and someone else doesn’t.
I do .. it does .. and it's not arrogance .. it's confidence I'm able to. :)
 
After a methodical consideration of all the technical issues, I got one of these - Loud, zero feedback, obsolescence proof, dead nuts reliable!

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It would be tough to get all those band members at the working end of this ... :)
 
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It would be tough to get all those band members at the working end of this ... :)
Yup! It was actually done in reverse in the very early (pre-electronics) recording days. Imagine an entire orchestra crowded in front of a huge megaphone. At the small end was a diaphragm connected to a needle which wiggled in the wax coating of a turning cylinder. Edison at his finest!

Wiki - "The earliest practical recording technologies were entirely mechanical devices. These recorders typically used a large conical horn to collect and focus the physical air pressure of the sound waves produced by the human voice or musical instruments. A sensitive membrane or diaphragm, located at the apex of the cone, was connected to an articulated scriber or stylus, and as the changing air pressure moved the diaphragm back and forth, the stylus scratched or incised an analogue of the sound waves onto a moving recording medium, such as a roll of coated paper, or a cylinder or disc coated with a soft material such as wax or a soft metal. These early recordings were necessarily of low fidelity and volume, and captured only a narrow segment of the audible sound spectrum — typically only from around 250 Hz up to about 2,500 Hz — so musicians and engineers were forced to adapt to these sonic limitations. Bands of the period often favored louder instruments such as trumpet, cornet and trombone, lower-register brass instruments (such as the tuba and the euphonium) replaced the string bass, and blocks of wood stood in for bass drums; performers also had to arrange themselves strategically around the horn to balance the sound, and to play as loudly as possible. The reproduction of domestic phonographs was similarly limited in both frequency-range and volume."

You would need two such contraptions to properly mix music - WinAmp, at it's worst, was a quantum leap!
 
Everyone should use what works for them.

I did end up picking up a Sennheiser D1 845 on eBay for $300 and a Sennheiser sk100( wireless transmitter for a wired mic) for $100. More back up stuff and I can learn the ins and outs of mid price Digital.
 
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^^^^ Huh???... Translation please???[emoji4]
Lol... autocorrect changed ins to insurance. Fixed it. Thx

And now I see Steve called it correctly