Weekly vs Monthly subscriptions

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THIS POST WAS STARTED AND COMPLETED BEFORE READING POSTS 17-20, scary huh.

I've never understood the criticisms people make about receiving music via a service, that they don't need, or don't yet need. Prime Cuts mp3 is a service that combines several of their other services into one disc per week, at a VERY friendly price. Their banner ads state "50 to 60 new mp3s per week". There simply AREN'T 50-60 new hit songs per week, especially if your primary market is weddings (where new music isn't as high of a priority versus school dances, for example).

Those who pay monthly and download from the sites mentioned, do you download EVERY song offered? Same concept applies here: if something on the disc isn't useable to you (such as Latin, in Rick's case), how about you simply DON'T import them to your computer?

To me, the much better question should always be: "what hits am I NOT getting (in the formats the service covers)", and not "why are there so many songs I'll never use on these discs." Since there aren't 50-60 new hits released every week, what would you LIKE these discs to contain?

Steve,

You are blinded by your underlying and invisible but respectable standards. You, as I frequently find myself, can't see the validity in the criticism because we don't see the conflict they do, primarily because you don't and have no need to constantly reconsider your ethics. They are simply part of your SOP. Many, do not have that foundation and quantify everything on a calculator. I'll attempt to explain.

Just as an example, when/if they subscribe and spend $60 for 200 songs each month, they value each song at .30. A real bargain in my book, but I digress.

If they only foresee playing/using 50 of those songs, only 25%, they consider 150 x .30, $45.00, or 75% of the expense as waste or overpaying, i.e being ripeed off.

They either electively or selectively fail to calculate the value using a more reflective and intelligent equation. 50 songs delivered to your mail box, usually prior to the songs getting major airplay, in a format that is immediately usable, transferable, and at such high quality as to almost be overkill, for only $1.20 each is such a bargain that no intelligent, ethical contradiction can be offered.

The insidious and unspoken entitlement attitude, that typically also travels in the "I'm obviously being ripped off" lane, leads many to simply leech the music and avoid the conflict, a conflict that doesn't really exist.
 
THIS POST WAS STARTED AND COMPLETED BEFORE READING POSTS 17-20, scary huh.



Steve,

You are blinded by your underlying and invisible but respectable standards. You, as I frequently find myself, can't see the validity in the criticism because we don't see the conflict they do, primarily because you don't and have no need to constantly reconsider your ethics. They are simply part of your SOP. Many, do not have that foundation and quantify everything on a calculator. I'll attempt to explain.

Just as an example, when/if they subscribe and spend $60 for 200 songs each month, they value each song at .30. A real bargain in my book, but I digress.

If they only foresee playing/using 50 of those songs, only 25%, they consider 150 x .30, $45.00, or 75% of the expense as waste or overpaying, i.e being ripeed off.

They either electively or selectively fail to calculate the value using a more reflective and intelligent equation. $60 for 50 songs delivered to your mail box in a format that is immediately usable, transferable, and at such high quality as to almost be overkill, is $1.20 each. That is such a bargain that no intelligent, ethical contradiction can be offered.

The insidious and unspoken entitlement attitude, that typically also travels in the "I'm obviously being ripped off" lane, leads many to simply leech the music and avoid the conflict, a conflict that doesn't really exist.

All that just to say basically the same thing Steve did only with a financial twist, wow your powers of repeating the obvious and with such big words too amazes me....:sqlaugh::sqwink:
 
Hopefully I can help clear a few things up....

PrimeCuts MP3 is the culmination of every song we service to radio here in the US. We are the largest music service for radio in the US and have been doing it a long time (over 20 years). PrimeCuts was created for DJs...with the best of the best from our radio content (HitDisc). Then last August we started adding everything to PrimeCuts MP3 since there was space on the disc for it...and we didn't raise the price. You can get a CD with 20 songs a week or an MP3 disc with 50+ songs a week for the same price. So, you're essentially getting at least 30 extra 'bonus' songs per week. If you have no use for them, like someone mentioned, don't copy them to your hard drive. I liken PrimeCuts MP3 to a music buffet...take what you want & leave the rest. I get the MP3 disc every week and I've yet to copy a song from the HitDisc folder...I know if it's popular enough I'll get it from the PrimeCuts selections.

Now, with all that said, something that really concerns me is RickRyan saying he needs to go to Amazon to get songs he doesn't have with us. Rick, can you please post 5 songs you think you should've gotten but didn't? I can then do some research to find out what's going on & will post the results.

BTW, there's no offense taken here by me/us in regards to this post...seems like a simple misunderstanding in what the product consists of & how it is programmed.
 
..and I failed to mention the STELLAR customer service and support that is included in the mix.

Looking forward to that list, I remain,

DJ Eskendereya
 
Getting back to your original point, I still find myself having to go to amazon on a regular basis (some old stuff but lots of it new as well) and that's just not what I expect when I'm paying a premium. YMMV

In the five or so years I've been with Prime Cuts, I can name ONE hit title that did not appear.

What have you had to buy from Amazon?
 
so if i sign up for the weekly Prime Cuts Mp3 cd, i'll pretty much get everything including, Hits, country, christian and rock???? And Could I drop my Promo Only subscriptions and Get the same product from Prime Cuts all on one disc?
Basically.

There is a comparison chart somewhere that details the servies releases.
 
Are the prime cuts mp3s "dj friendly" meaning intro and outro beats? I may have to give it a try. Didn't know they did mp3 disks.
 
My "meat and potatoes" is weddings, like many of you. Since moving to North Carolina, I learned that there are many Spanish speaking people here and I mean people form Puerto Rico, the islands, and Mexico. I get requests for Latin music (Tropical, Pop, Hispanic) quite often...and I have the music that I need at my finger tips; Top Hits monthly Latin Series. The CD comes in four sections--Rhythm (Reggaeton/Urban), Regional (Hispanic), Tropical (Salsa, Merengue, Bachata Reggaeton), and Latin Pop. Before subscribing to TopHits Latin, I did several years of Promo Only Tropical Latin and Regional Latin CDs, one each month.

Back to subscriptions in general...yes, with TopHits I get my fair share of "filler" material, but as DJ Jonthe1 pointed out, two or three or even 6 months a song just might become a hit and...you've got it because it just happened to be part of that "filler" stuff. :)

Most DJs have an appreciation for all types of music. Granted, some styles may not be my cup of tea, but then I don't have to listen to it on a daily or weekly basis, just knowing that I have it when called for is reassurance.
 
...And Could I drop my Promo Only subscriptions and Get the same product from Prime Cuts all on one disc?

Yup, pretty much. Being a weekly service, Prime Cuts will get the new releases to you before Promo does.
 
Are the prime cuts mp3s "dj friendly" meaning intro and outro beats? I may have to give it a try. Didn't know they did mp3 disks.

Neither Prime Cuts nor Promo Only (nor ERG) alter the music at all, with the possible exception of editing content that would not be acceptable to "air". To legally edit and distribute songs to be more "dj friendly," I believe the labels would have to give specific permission for that kind of editing to be done. The songs are as friendly as the label released them to be, via these sources.

Legal remix services are often criticized for being "late" to release hot remixes. Part of the reason this is true is based on the time it takes to get these permissions in place.
 
Neither Prime Cuts nor Promo Only (nor ERG) alter the music at all, with the possible exception of editing content that would not be acceptable to "air". To legally edit and distribute songs to be more "dj friendly," I believe the labels would have to give specific permission for that kind of editing to be done. The songs are as friendly as the label released them to be, via these sources.

Legal remix services are often criticized for being "late" to release hot remixes. Part of the reason this is true is based on the time it takes to get these permissions in place.

Can't speak for the other companies but Steve is right on with this as far as we go. As mentioned above, we've been doing this 20+ years and our agreement is we service our clients with the version the label provides to us. The only exception is sometimes we will make a song a little cleaner than they send to us for our PrimeCuts products. We leave the intros/outros and remixing to the companies that do that. We do have 1-3 Dance remix songs on our disc every week but it's a Dance remix that was given to us by the label.
 
so if i sign up for the weekly Prime Cuts Mp3 cd, i'll pretty much get everything including, Hits, country, christian and rock???? And Could I drop my Promo Only subscriptions and Get the same product from Prime Cuts all on one disc?

Fair warning (my opinion here), Prime Cuts does NOT cover the country genre very well. I get about 3-4 country songs per week on average.
 
Sorry, I don't remember specific titles but it seems to happen on a fairly regular basis.

Regular, as in not often or even recent enough to recall a single circumstance.

In that case your posts are very insightful on a fairly regular basis.
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Fair warning (my opinion here), Prime Cuts does NOT cover the country genre very well. I get about 3-4 country songs per week on average.

Here's the current Top 30 chart for radio. You'll notice every song has been on PrimeCuts. The #1 song we serviced over 6 months ago. The 2 biggest syndicated countdown shows for Country radio (Bob Kingsley & ACC with Kix Brooks) get their music from us. If it's remotely a hit in Country we've had it. :)

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Sorry, I don't remember specific titles but it seems to happen on a fairly regular basis.

If amazon is like itunes (and I'm not sure if it is, since I haven't bought music there, I haven't needed to), you should be able to get an itemized listing of the music you've purchased. It would be really helpful in this discussion if you could supply examples from which you made your conclusions.
 
I keep all 6 charts on my jump drive, updated and ready to pull up, to use for ideas, at events.