So I got a quick sample of the Bose L1 today
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And by the way if you have an erection lasting more than 4 hours.... call somebody else
You would be the last person I would think of Jacob :sqerr:
How did we get from sound reproduction comparisons to human exhaust sounds? Too much of one is bad for your hearing and too much of the other is bad for your health!
If I am just looking at numbers, these units have saved me over $400 a year in gas alone. I can bring this system and a complete back up system in a small fuel efficiant car.
I just recently sold 2 systems. These units did over 100 weddings and still held their value very well, something other gear doesn't always do. I am not saying the above gear does or doesn't...i have no idea if it does or not.
These systems were each sold for $500 less than retail price, meaning my equipment cost per wedding ended up about 10 bucks. The fuel savings covered most of that, making my equipment just about free.
oh yeah, and the customers loved it and loved that I spent "tons" of money on equipment they think is the best for their wedding. And it was very easy for me to set up and tear down.
i wish i could get scammed like this more often
I'm with you Scott face it gentlemen we are usually selling to women. Most not all but most could care less about JBL or anything else but if you mention Bose then they think of high quality sound. Either there dads or friends have heard of it. Or own something from Bose.
Every time I see a Bose commercial on TV I think BAM free advertisement baby. Yes these are tools but many things are open to perception. And whether its true or not if your bride thinks that you have the best for her its just one more reason to hire you.
when I see the bose haters use terms like "toys" and "they were designed to be stage monitors", it tells me they are looking for reasons to hate the system.
I understand it's not for everyone and isn't the best solution for every scenerio.
but eventually you will have to concede that many dj's have had a lot of success with these systems. Either that, or bose has somehow brainwashed us and our customers into believing it sounds great when it really doesn't.
I have never used a meter. I have used my ears and have used the feedback from my customers....always extremely positive about the look and the sound from the equipment. That is all I care about. All of the other benefits are just icing on the cake.
My laptop has become a very important tool in my sound system. Yet, I don't think dell specifically designed my laptop to be used for djing. I do know the L1's were not designed to be specifically stage monitors. I do know that good products often get used for things they may not have been specifically designed for originally.
I've never weighed my gear. I don't put value on equipment by the weight. I do know that each piece is relatively light and has handles to make it very easy to move around. Being a mobile dj, that's important to me. I have no idea how many total pounds of gear I have, nor do I care.
If and when i ever compare other gear, I will do it in front of clients and then get their feedback. But with all of the positive feedback i get now and with the Bose name recognition as well as all of the benefits for me, the new gear is going to have to be pretty darn good.
And I like toys!!!
I understand it's not for everyone and isn't the best solution for every scenerio.
but eventually you will have to concede that many dj's have had a lot of success with these systems. Either that, or bose has somehow brainwashed us and our customers into believing it sounds great when it really doesn't.
I have never used a meter. I have used my ears and have used the feedback from my customers....always extremely positive about the look and the sound from the equipment. That is all I care about. All of the other benefits are just icing on the cake.
My laptop has become a very important tool in my sound system. Yet, I don't think dell specifically designed my laptop to be used for djing. I do know the L1's were not designed to be specifically stage monitors. I do know that good products often get used for things they may not have been specifically designed for originally.
I've never weighed my gear. I don't put value on equipment by the weight. I do know that each piece is relatively light and has handles to make it very easy to move around. Being a mobile dj, that's important to me. I have no idea how many total pounds of gear I have, nor do I care.
If and when i ever compare other gear, I will do it in front of clients and then get their feedback. But with all of the positive feedback i get now and with the Bose name recognition as well as all of the benefits for me, the new gear is going to have to be pretty darn good.
And I like toys!!!
BTW, last night I used the Bose. I didn't get any "oohs and ahs", but what I did get was someone who actually walked up to me and asked where the speakers were. :sqerr: This, as she actually had her hand on one of them. :sqerr::sqerr:
So, what this tells me is that they blend into the background... which can be something many brides or clients would truly appreciate.
So, what this tells me is that they blend into the background... which can be something many brides or clients would truly appreciate.
Scott, Papa and others,
Since the L1/B1 system works for your businesses, that's what matters. No one's trying to tell you different. And I think we all know that there is no honest comparison between a line array system (L1) and a conventional PA system. The L1/B1 system has a distinct advantage of doing the processing for the operator.
From what I can gather, the rest of us aren't Bose haters. Our business equipment works for our requirements. No matter which side of the debate one is on, one will find a majority in the mobile DJ biz who believe that the L1/B1 system is overpriced for what it is and what it can do.
That's not to say that the L1/B1 system won't hold its own for upscale, indoor shows. It does. Many owners of the system have proven this. I'm just sayin' that a conventional PA that's built and set up correctly can do what the L1/B1 does and more for less cost.
If a DJ company has to load an 18" sub box and amp to accompany the L1 system at a larger show, the weight saving becomes moot and the cost becomes apparent. If you're booked to run sound at a large, outdoor show and have to leave the L1/B1 system at home in favor of a headroom-heavy FOH rig, the L1/B1 is idle and isn't paying for itself.
This is just Wolfie talkin' here. If I spend 5 grand plus for a business sound system, it had better be able to shake the dust out of the rafters and push the curtains out of the windows... and offer a sweet tone at lower volume at the same time. We have been doing just that with our conventional system for years. It goes out every time we're booked to do a show, large and small. We didn't pay 5 Gs for it.
Since the L1/B1 system works for your businesses, that's what matters. No one's trying to tell you different. And I think we all know that there is no honest comparison between a line array system (L1) and a conventional PA system. The L1/B1 system has a distinct advantage of doing the processing for the operator.
From what I can gather, the rest of us aren't Bose haters. Our business equipment works for our requirements. No matter which side of the debate one is on, one will find a majority in the mobile DJ biz who believe that the L1/B1 system is overpriced for what it is and what it can do.
That's not to say that the L1/B1 system won't hold its own for upscale, indoor shows. It does. Many owners of the system have proven this. I'm just sayin' that a conventional PA that's built and set up correctly can do what the L1/B1 does and more for less cost.
If a DJ company has to load an 18" sub box and amp to accompany the L1 system at a larger show, the weight saving becomes moot and the cost becomes apparent. If you're booked to run sound at a large, outdoor show and have to leave the L1/B1 system at home in favor of a headroom-heavy FOH rig, the L1/B1 is idle and isn't paying for itself.
This is just Wolfie talkin' here. If I spend 5 grand plus for a business sound system, it had better be able to shake the dust out of the rafters and push the curtains out of the windows... and offer a sweet tone at lower volume at the same time. We have been doing just that with our conventional system for years. It goes out every time we're booked to do a show, large and small. We didn't pay 5 Gs for it.
Fred,
That just goes back to the whole choose your weapon to do battle with.....
I've used conventional systems granted not nearly as nice or advanced as what you currently use but, I had nothing but problems especially with feedback. Plus they were bulky, dated and heavy....
The Bose system, for me at least, was the magic bullet that solved all those problems for me. I don't do many outdoor gigs where a "Wall-Of-Sound" system would be needed or even warrented and I have no plans at this time to do so.
I shopped and compared for a long time before I bought the Bose. I looked at JBL, EV, FBT, you name a brand I checked it out if I could. All in all to get the specs and performance I was looking for I couldn't have gotten it any cheaper.... sure I could have gotten Amps and Speakers cheaper... but then I still would have needed the outside processing, crossover, EQ... blah blah blah.... and that translated into a crap ton of extra equipment that was not only adding to my cost but also adding extra gear I didn't want to have to tote with me... I don't have a big fancy trailer to haul gear in and since I have to haul it in all by myself I didn't want the extra luggage.
Again the Bose was the magic pill for this....
I know it doen't give ya the big shake the fillings, blow your windows out bass... but what it does give is enjoyable... I've never been a fan of bass that makes your heart have palpatations as it pumbles your chest. If that's your kind of system all power to ya, I say.
I have yet to hear one person complain about my sound and I'm not even running a full system in DJ terms.
If I ever feel the need for a "Club Sound" then I will buy the appropriate system. For now, since I do mostly weddings and karaoke the Bose system suits me fine and it suits my clients fine too.... and isn't that what really matters....
I mean really we can have this manly part measureing contest all day and all night but our clients could care less if we could pound a nine inch spike with our manly parts as long as it sounds good when we do it.....
That just goes back to the whole choose your weapon to do battle with.....
I've used conventional systems granted not nearly as nice or advanced as what you currently use but, I had nothing but problems especially with feedback. Plus they were bulky, dated and heavy....
The Bose system, for me at least, was the magic bullet that solved all those problems for me. I don't do many outdoor gigs where a "Wall-Of-Sound" system would be needed or even warrented and I have no plans at this time to do so.
I shopped and compared for a long time before I bought the Bose. I looked at JBL, EV, FBT, you name a brand I checked it out if I could. All in all to get the specs and performance I was looking for I couldn't have gotten it any cheaper.... sure I could have gotten Amps and Speakers cheaper... but then I still would have needed the outside processing, crossover, EQ... blah blah blah.... and that translated into a crap ton of extra equipment that was not only adding to my cost but also adding extra gear I didn't want to have to tote with me... I don't have a big fancy trailer to haul gear in and since I have to haul it in all by myself I didn't want the extra luggage.
Again the Bose was the magic pill for this....
I know it doen't give ya the big shake the fillings, blow your windows out bass... but what it does give is enjoyable... I've never been a fan of bass that makes your heart have palpatations as it pumbles your chest. If that's your kind of system all power to ya, I say.
I have yet to hear one person complain about my sound and I'm not even running a full system in DJ terms.
If I ever feel the need for a "Club Sound" then I will buy the appropriate system. For now, since I do mostly weddings and karaoke the Bose system suits me fine and it suits my clients fine too.... and isn't that what really matters....
I mean really we can have this manly part measureing contest all day and all night but our clients could care less if we could pound a nine inch spike with our manly parts as long as it sounds good when we do it.....
There is only one thing I'm pounding with my manly parts.
Must...... Resist.... Must.... Stop........ :yoDur:
Ahhhhhhhhh much better thanks for reminding me to pound myself....
The sound of my L1 system REALLY jumped up when I used the 58 preset. I wish the sales team I used had known about it earlier.
It is a tool I use for my craft. My clients love it. Last night's wedding was overly impressed by it, and I worked that.
Great investment for me. That's good enough.
It is a tool I use for my craft. My clients love it. Last night's wedding was overly impressed by it, and I worked that.
Great investment for me. That's good enough.
I too had great response the handful of times I used the Bose system. the last gaining the best response. I opted for the Dynacord system I currently use and have had the same response, So it proves one thing, different tools set properly and used in the proper settings will gain equal success.