Rockit 5 - Feature Requests

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scharris_99 said:
Here's a few that I haven't seen yet:
- Retain contents of the search text box rather than wiping it out after a search. If I fat finger a search and get the wrong or no results I want something to show me what I searched for and allow me to re-edit my search. For instance a search for "pussy cat dolls" returned no results, if it stayed in the text box I could have removed the space and searched again.

I only wish edit controls worked that easy... :D

Actually, they do, but I think I would create havoc if I did that, and be on the phone much more than I am now. ;)

The key to using the search, IMHO, is using the least amount of characters as possible. For example, if you typed pussy -- you would get all your results needed. Using spaces in a search is not advisable, because Rockit's search, is actually a find, not a left to right search. Trying to narrow it down that way, is much harder, then searching a few letters, and then using the sort headers to narrow it down.



- I assume this one's a little complex but it would be VERY helpful! Some means of rating music. In my iTunes I have songs rated with their 5 star system. I can pull up an iTunes playlist and sort it by ratings giving me the hottest songs at the top of the list. This is a HUGE help when the brain fog sets in. For instance I have a country hits playlist with about 50 songs in it, but I don't listen to country songs very often and my eyes start glazing over trying to pick 3 or 4 songs that are hot, but not burned out. In my ranked list I simply pull the tops songs and leave the few that have recently been overplayed. I thought about using the play count and incrementing the numbers by 100, 200, 300, 400 and 500 for ratings use, but I'm afraid that something could reset that count and I'd be out tons of hours worth of work.

That's not exceptionally complex, but it would involve changing the database schema. Not likely to happen any time soon I'm afraid, as I have no extra fields left, and if I add more, it's 10's of thousands of lines of code that need to be changed... :)



Thanks
Scott
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Randy A said:
Along those same lines -- being able to change the little music note icon would be good for me. I like to create different folder, so say I have 'Best of Country' and then 'Best of Country Slow'...I could dump them all into one folder and then change the little music note icon to indicate a slow song.

That's another one, that would require a database schema change...
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My thoughts in red :)

Just to clarify, if yer wondering -- when I designed the new database schema in V4, it was meant to have a lifespan of 5-10 years. It's fairly set in stone for some time to come, because of the complexity involved. I can change/update almost anything in the program itself -- but to change the database, would put me in a world of hurt... ;) :)
 
pman said:
-Would like more granularity for setting cues i.e. typing in a number. Slider is jumpy and does not let you get it where you want it.

Thanks,
-pman
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Ok, I took a look at the Extended Track Props, and made some changes that should help if you're setting the cues that way:

I doubled the width of the slider, so most songs in the average range (3-4 minutes), will set accurate using the mouse. I also realized I did not have the arrow keys enabled (arrow keys allow for the finest resolution) -- so they are now enabled, and if you need the full one second resolution on a long song that is jumpy with the mouse, you can click the slider, then use the arrow keys :)
 
Jumpin' Jeff said:
Rick, I'm not quite clear on your play now feature....
What Dave is saying is that when you select play now, it's like an immediate mix to the new song.... What I read from your discription, is your play now doesn't fade out the current track, and your play now is more like inserting a sound effect... playing over top of the current track...

Is that a proper assessment? or am I reading it wrong?

Perhaps a better discription of what dave is asking for is a right click "mix now" option.
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Yes Jeff is correct about what I'm saying. Believe it or not this is a major thing for many people that own OTS. If I had it where it would simply play now the next song into the next deck simply by right clicking and saying play now. Being that simple I would probably own Rock it even if it where for one of my other computers. Add that feature and the OTS users will come. :sqbiggrin: I'm a DJ of the simple sort. When I'm mixing of MCing I want it super simple but to sound super good. Thanks for asking these questions by the way Rick.
 
nextgen1 said:
Yes Jeff is correct about what I'm saying. Believe it or not this is a major thing for many people that own OTS. If I had it where it would simply play now the next song into the next deck simply by right clicking and saying play now. Being that simple I would probably own Rock it even if it where for one of my other computers. Add that feature and the OTS users will come. :sqbiggrin: I'm a DJ of the simple sort. When I'm mixing of MCing I want it super simple but to sound super good. Thanks for asking these questions by the way Rick.
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No problem Dave -- that's why I pay myself the big bucks... :sqerr: :sqlaugh:

Anyway, I'm looking at different options here, and still trying to figure this out... In other words, if I have this correctly, you want to highlight a song in the list, and click play now, have it load into an available deck and start playing.

Does that mean a mix into, from what is already playing? Stop everything else cold?

Basically, I need to know what to do with the song(s) currently playing, before you click play now. Do I just end it/them abruptly, mix over to the other decks, etc...?


I always have to consider the fact, that there could be a song playing at any given time in one of the decks, when you would use this command. Consequently, I need to know what to do with that song playing...

The confusing part for me, is that Rockit has 8 available decks that could be playing -- so in order to implement the command properly, I need to know what to do with the other 7 decks when the command is issued...
 
nextgen1 said:
I would say yes to make it the very next song to be played and the song that was playing is then discarded. You know Rick if I where you I would download the Demo of OTS and see how it works. It flows very natural to the next song. Jeff would be better to tell you how it all works he is the man when it comes to OTS
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I own a full copy of OTS Dave :)

With Rockit, since it has 8 decks, it gets a bit confusing. If you guys could give me a scenario or two, of how you would actually use the command in a real life situation -- I could probably mimic that :)
 
SoftJock Rick said:
I own a full copy of OTS Dave :)

With Rockit, since it has 8 decks, it gets a bit confusing. If you guys could give me a scenario or two, of how you would actually use the command in a real life situation -- I could probably mimic that :)
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I will have section for the Bouquet and Garter. With all songs numbered and in the correct order they will be played. Since I never play the whole song. I will find the right time and then right click the next song and hit play know, it works perfect.

Or lets say I have a wedding party and every person has there own song. I will do the exact same thing. That way it plays when I want it to. Eight decks man thats alot of decks lol. I'm pretty simple 2 decks song goes to the next deck. If I want a song played four songs from now I have a play list and i just drag and drop to number 4 position or of course I can right click and hit Play now and it does.

This is also one of the features I wont use VDJ for because it lacks this feature as well as the mix now feature to the next deck or atleast with out it causing some problems. I'm pretty much under the KISS principle and it does seem to be working for me. Even my wife can use OTS which I love that about it. And yes I do know that with VDJ you can double click and start song. But if you do it by accident it can be an issue in OTS it does not do this.
 
There's a feature in Rockit already, that might do what you want...

If a deck is playing a song, and you drag another song onto it, they will merge together in the output buffer, and the old song is discarded, and the new song continues playing.

It sounds to me like what you are describing...

If so, it is also available as a right-click item, as long as a song is already playing in a deck. For example, load a song into deck A, play it -- then right click another track, and click Load to A -- they will merge together.

If you get a chance, try it out, and let me know if that's what you are looking for...
 
SoftJock Rick said:
There's a feature in Rockit already, that might do what you want...

If a deck is playing a song, and you drag another song onto it, they will merge together in the output buffer, and the old song is discarded, and the new song continues playing.

It sounds to me like what you are describing...

If so, it is also available as a right-click item, as long as a song is already playing in a deck. For example, load a song into deck A, play it -- then right click another track, and click Load to A -- they will merge together.

If you get a chance, try it out, and let me know if that's what you are looking for...
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Thanks Rick I have tried the Demo before. And the program is great. But it still has to many steps for what I'm doing. Again please don't change anything for me. I'm a pretty simple guy. :sqlaugh:
 
BTW, the 8 decks are split into groups sorta -- they can actually all play simultaneously, but are not really meant to.

I get many requests now for more skins with the 4 main decks on them -- but screen real estate is hard to come by...

The other 4, are the audio jukebox, sampler and two video decks -- all of which play music as well. I usually use the audio jukebox for a separate system (cocktail lounge, ceremony, etc), and the video decks for photo slideshows or what have you. This way, they don't interfere with the main mixing decks. :)
 
nextgen1 said:
Thanks Rick I have tried the Demo before. And the program is great. But it still has to many steps for what I'm doing. Again please don't change anything for me. I'm a pretty simple guy. :sqlaugh:
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Just curious if you get the chance Dave, to try what I mentioned above, and see if that is what yer describing to me.

I love to improve the software (and I wouldn't mind grabbing a few OTS customers as well in the process :D). But if it is something that will improve the interface, then I would like to add it in. :)

What I try to do here, is understand the end result required. We all mix different, and things I would never think of doing, somebody else does -- so I don't learn about it, until they tell me. Then I try to figure out if there's a way to do it already, or something I need to add.

We aim to please :)
 
Thanks Rick I know on one of my computers I do not have OTS its just too much to have all three of my laptops with it. But I do have a much lesser program on that one. Winamp seems to fit the bill for when I'm using that laptop which is very rare.

But I'm always willing to add a much better program when if fits my style. I guess there are quite a few of us out there that could not mix our way out of a paper bag. But have great musical sense and do well at MCing. For those of us then this type of setup is quick and easy and fits.
 
nextgen1 said:
I will have section for the Bouquet and Garter. With all songs numbered and in the correct order they will be played. Since I never play the whole song. I will find the right time and then right click the next song and hit play know, it works perfect.

Or lets say I have a wedding party and every person has there own song. I will do the exact same thing. That way it plays when I want it to. Eight decks man thats alot of decks lol. I'm pretty simple 2 decks song goes to the next deck. If I want a song played four songs from now I have a play list and i just drag and drop to number 4 position or of course I can right click and hit Play now and it does.

This is also one of the features I wont use VDJ for because it lacks this feature as well as the mix now feature to the next deck or atleast with out it causing some problems. I'm pretty much under the KISS principle and it does seem to be working for me. Even my wife can use OTS which I love that about it. And yes I do know that with VDJ you can double click and start song. But if you do it by accident it can be an issue in OTS it does not do this.
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Dave - in VDJ create a playlist with the 8 songs you want....in the "playlist...if one song is playing; double click on the next tune; it will mix into that song.
 
Steve LeBlanc said:
Dave - in VDJ create a playlist with the 8 songs you want....in the "playlist...if one song is playing; double click on the next tune; it will mix into that song.
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Get yer sorry, virtual Canuck ass outta my thread dude! :sqlaugh:
 
SoftJock Rick said:
There's a feature in Rockit already, that might do what you want...

If a deck is playing a song, and you drag another song onto it, they will merge together in the output buffer, and the old song is discarded, and the new song continues playing.

It sounds to me like what you are describing...

If so, it is also available as a right-click item, as long as a song is already playing in a deck. For example, load a song into deck A, play it -- then right click another track, and click Load to A -- they will merge together.

If you get a chance, try it out, and let me know if that's what you are looking for...
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Tried this, Rick. It's not a nice mix...just an abrupt stop of the old song and start of the new. I don't consider that a merge.
 
Randy A said:
Tried this, Rick. It's not a nice mix...just an abrupt stop of the old song and start of the new. I don't consider that a merge.
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Depends on the mix point...

It buffers roughly 1 second of samples in the main output buffer, so if you know exactly where to bring it in, it will work.


Frankly, I don't recommend it -- I was trying to find out if that's what Dave meant by discarding one song, and dropping another on immediately on top. It's tough for me to understand exactly what that play now function should do, unless I hear an example... :dontknow:
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Depends on the mix point...

It buffers roughly 1 second of samples in the main output buffer, so if you know exactly where to bring it in, it will work.


Frankly, I don't recommend it -- I was trying to find out if that's what Dave meant by discarding one song, and dropping another on immediately on top. It's tough for me to understand exactly what that play now function should do, unless I hear an example... :dontknow:
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From the way I read it, he would like it to mix as nice as it would if you were going from one deck to another, without the additional steps of loading it into a deck and mixing over.
 
Randy A said:
From the way I read it, he would like it to mix as nice as it would if you were going from one deck to another, without the additional steps of loading it into a deck and mixing over.
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Well, I'm still somewhat confused, because I thought I had addressed that in post 42 and 43. But then Dave brought up the discard song playing...

Again -- if someone could do a record of a mix how they want the command to come out, I could probably duplicate it. I'm just slightly unsure, because it has been described in a couple different ways...

If I hear it, I can dupe it :)
 
Steve LeBlanc said:
Dave - in VDJ create a playlist with the 8 songs you want....in the "playlist...if one song is playing; double click on the next tune; it will mix into that song.
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Hi Steve I know how to do it but thank you for the advice. I just don't like the way VDJ handles the double deck mix thing. I own the program and don't use it because of that main function for me but again thanks for your advice. :sqbiggrin:
 
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