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Poll: Did the DJ Assist in the Growth of the iPod wedding trend?
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Yeah, blame me. Everybody else does.
Well, OK. You did it. So much for the thread.....
You should really be blaming me...
I sell software for automated jukeboxes. The DJ builds the box, runs my software, and gets $200-400 for dropping it off and picking back up
Quite a few have already been rented out for homegrown weddings, and much cooler than an iPod, as the guests get to interact with a touchscreen, and program their own music. Easy way to make extra cash, and not lose the gig totally
Can't blame you completely, but ya sure as hell ain't helpin' none.....
Can't blame you completely, but ya sure as hell ain't helpin' none.....
Hey, I just write the software -- it's the DJs out there profiting the most from the product.
If one is not willing to adapt to the ever changing market -- one will fail...
Hey, I just write the software -- it's the DJs out there profiting the most from the product.
If one is not willing to adapt to the ever changing market -- one will fail...
There is no adaptation to a self-serve market. When it becomes completely self-serve, those on this forum will be out of business.
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I disagree, Joe. Don't hurt me! I think that at least many will overcome this. But I truly believe that it will not be by "educating" people; rather, it will be by actually being better than an iPod.
For example, Bobbie says, "Hey, Kimmie, I'm gonna save me a thong-load of money by having me an iPod wedding."
Kimmie says, "You go, girlfriend!"
Kimmie's sidekick, Robyn, says, "No way, shorty. No iPod can do what that Ducky DJ can do. Are you outta your mind, woman? Spend the cash, and have a real bash!"
Nope you don't disagree with me. I agree with you completely. To re-word what I said: IF it goes SELF-SERVE... In other words self-serve means just that. No need for us. But in an earlier post I mentioned that DJ skills and services will ( in my hopeful opinion) win the day.
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Aha, at last, somebody said the service word.
That is what I mean in regard to all this worth and time commitment stuff I have been posting.
For example:
Site visit/appointment: I personally do this with every site and client because every client has a different vision of how they want the room arrayed and just about every site has a standard array that they try to talk the client into.
This service can be up to an hour of travel each way and one hour on site for a total time commitment of three hours.
Finalization: This is simply going over the agenda for the day and any special announcements. For weddings, including travel, it can take up to four hours.
I also perform this service for other event types but it is most likely a phone conversation.
This is a service you are providing to a client to ensure that their day goes the way they envisioned.
Consultations are a service as well.
You spend your time on these services so pay yourself for them.
Now, back to the thread...
I am surprised nobody mentioned the iPod being used with the Cortex. In this case it becomes a music source for the Cortex and, since the Cortex is considered professional DJ equipment, then the iPod, as a music source, becomes professional DJ equipment.
Wait, did I just say that the iPod was a music source? That is all it really is folks.
It will never go completely self-serve. The same reason everybody doesn't do their own plumbing, mow their own grass, etc.
Some will self-serve for their own reasons; cost, because they want to, whatever... That's just another market that many DJs are getting into, by renting out jukeboxes, iPod systems, etc.
I see this as two separate markets -- one being the folks that want a DJ, one just wanting music. Why not attack from both angles, and make more money...?
I'd like to know if there is a correlation between I pod weddings and median price of DJ's in that area.
Are people considering I pods because they don't want or fear a crappy dj...or that median prices in their are are too high, (or perceived to be).
This mentality by some; charge as much as you can...surcharge n the extra speaker cord...is that contributing to a general disdain for the industry....
Do brides feel that dj's are overselling their value?
My thought...I think there is a malaise present.....
Are people considering I pods because they don't want or fear a crappy dj...or that median prices in their are are too high, (or perceived to be).
This mentality by some; charge as much as you can...surcharge n the extra speaker cord...is that contributing to a general disdain for the industry....
Do brides feel that dj's are overselling their value?
My thought...I think there is a malaise present.....
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You need to put that in terms for those of us that don't play Hockey.
Well, I guess the DJ could have been on the ice if he/she was figure skating, ice fishing, or one of those ice road truckers.
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Go to the LA and Bay - most of the Jocks use iPods - you'd be surprised at some of the mouthy barstewards "elsewhere" that use them and harp on about worth and being an entertainer 
Because a) Every self serve is one less chance to do what I love,
and b) Because :::: sniff:::: I don't have stuff to rent and you do! :sqembarrassed:
Guess I could rent out my Duet and a spare KJ Tools set....:sqerr:
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I see this as two separate markets -- one being the folks that want a DJ, one just wanting music. Why not attack from both angles, and make more money...?
Rick is bang on again There are several guys around adding a new, fresh revenue stream to their business and while some are pissing around whining the other guys are making dosh
Rick is bang on again
There are several guys around adding a new, fresh revenue stream to their business and while some are pissing around whining the other guys are making dosh 1) Unfortunately, this is no longer true. I have seen muti-million dollar international corporations use iPODS at events ( and VERY badly, I might add). I asked one of the execs why they did this and the surprising answer was that they ( the planners) believed that the younger people would think it was "cool", and it would help project a younger, edgier image.
I have been to iPOD weddings and events ( as a guest). The general consensus was NOT about price, but the ability AND FUN of putting together a personalized playlist, and ease of use. Nothing to do with money ( and of course, no thought toward the overall QUALITY). Black Tie iPOD not happening? I recall similar statements about karaoke at Black Tie events- then bought my current house by doing "Black Tie Karaoke". Black Tie weddings, corporate events, etc.....held in top venues- not the local VFW or someone's home.
2) Certainly, we wonderful DJs and Karaoke Hosts can't imagine iPODS as actual competition? }}} snicker {{{...........
................. um, on the other hand, any event within my working sphere that I didn't do must have gone .....um...somewhere, right? Can't be another DJ / Host- none around anywhere as good a me. THEY can't compete either.... hmmm
OK, sarcasm aside, the bottom line is that anything or anyone that wins a perspective client within your sphere of influence IS your competition. Hoping that this competition is contained within another market segment is wishful, but non-factual. I really DON'T have any evidence that I have lost an event to an iPOD self-serve, because no one has told me that was the case- BUT, how many out there never called a DJ in the first place? How can you know?.
Please remember after this rant that I am primarily a Karaoke Host who only whores himself to do straight DJ work. Hosting via iPOD is still pretty much not techically workable for karaoke anyway.
Since I also prefer mixed Karaoke / DJ events, the iPOD really CAN'T have too much of an effect on me so far, if a client wants what I
have to offer...
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It's several days later, and I still have the same opinion.
The school of thought that ipods will kill D.J.s is the same school of thought that predicted television would kill movie theaters.
Movie theaters had to "up" their game to insure their success. Those who find ipods to be taking your jobs away don't offer more than the ipod, in the minds of the consumer who opted for the ipod. Villifying the ipod, or those who believe differently, won't help you succeed.
The ipod's not going away. If you intend to also not go away in this business, you'll have to adapt.
Dinosaurs kept it real. They're all dead.
The school of thought that ipods will kill D.J.s is the same school of thought that predicted television would kill movie theaters.
Movie theaters had to "up" their game to insure their success. Those who find ipods to be taking your jobs away don't offer more than the ipod, in the minds of the consumer who opted for the ipod. Villifying the ipod, or those who believe differently, won't help you succeed.
The ipod's not going away. If you intend to also not go away in this business, you'll have to adapt.
Dinosaurs kept it real. They're all dead.