Missed opportunity by the ADJA?

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Well,

Thank you you all for keeping this post on track....

I'm thinking my days over yonder are waning.

Too much bull*hit there.

THE FERRELLITES (Yeah, I said it) have totally made it into their crusade...

F' em.
 
Oh Joe my boy, don't dispare. I won't be there much longer myself. I'm thinking of hanging out at DJC and see what I can stir up over there.

I see Ferrell as a Monkey Grinder and all his followers as the little monkeys scurrying around for loose change. When you're looking at their cute little fury faces they are picking your pocket at the same time. Then running back to their master with the loot. They even have Kim all wrapped up in their cult. That's OK, they need each other.:sqwink:
 
oh no not the FERRELLITES









RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!
 
Ladies and gentlemen I bring you some updated information.

It seems this question was being debated on another board. There are certain members/agents of the ADJA who do not like people asking questions that they don't approve of. A fierce debate was launched. The following is the response from one of those members/agents of the ADJA.

"Exactly what does the ADJA have to do to get you and the likes to zip it?"
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This statement was not directed toward me but I felt it important for you to know that you should be careful when questioning where your dues are being spent.

This quote was from BBB Buffalo. I got the distinct impression from the tone of his posts that people should not question what the ADJA is doing with the money that members spend on it's service. That members paying for benefits should be happy with what they get and just "zip it".

This is my opinion however the quote is real.

Thank you for your time and attention.
 
I'm just glad they're over there and not over here. :rolleyes:

As long as they stay in their neck of the woods, I'll stay in mine. Everything's cool.

If they come here they'd all better say a prayer before they do... because they sure as hell ain't gonna have one inside these gates.
 
It seems the original post was asking why the ADJA didn't advertise in this publication. then it turned into an ADJA attack.
although I agree with much of what is said here
I think the "enemy" in this case is the doofus who just advertised himself (and a few of us) out of future business.
Is there more the ADJA can do?
absolutely.
but much like an editorial in a newspaper...
the only thing they can do NOW is respond...
and play "catch-up"
 
Mike,
I will agree with you. It starts with a question posed to others who maybe interested discussing the issue. It then turns into "how dare you question the great leader". As you can see by the quoted response to Joe's original question it doesn't get pretty. I just felt it important people know how the so called elite deal with others.

The fanatics are not confined only to DJC.

So to the original question, could the ADJA do more? Of course they could do more. But as I have said before I understand why they don't. Advertising more would take away from their profit base. Like any business there is only so much money that is put into advertising. And when that advertising doesn't see a return of profit for it's owner then it's not worth the money. That advertising maybe beneficial to the members, but the members are not the ones who need to get paid. Again, I understand this concept.

Simply stated the ADJA is a for profit business first. It's in the business of helping DJ's grow their business. It may only be selected DJ's in certain areas but it is what they do. And, when helping those DJ's their focas is on Wedding DJ's. If you don't do weddings the advertisment and effort is wasted. They take care of the wedding DJ first.

With your fee you pay for specific benefits and the ADJA clearly delivers as much as possible. But this is not like a trade group or union where officers are elected and the members have a say in how their money is being spent. When clients pay you are they allowed to tell you where to spend your profits? Of course not. It is a business and it needs to thrive. After all how many of us would work for free just to promote the others in our area?

And to be fair, from what I know NAME is run in axactly the say way. Just understand what you're getting and who is receiving the true benefits before you hand over you're hard earned money.

Just my thoughts. Correct them if they are wrong.:sqwink:
 
Ron Auger said:
Ladies and gentlemen I bring you some updated information.

It seems this question was being debated on another board. There are certain members/agents of the ADJA who do not like people asking questions that they don't approve of. A fierce debate was launched. The following is the response from one of those members/agents of the ADJA.


This statement was not directed toward me but I felt it important for you to know that you should be careful when questioning where your dues are being spent.

This quote was from BBB Buffalo. I got the distinct impression from the tone of his posts that people should not question what the ADJA is doing with the money that members spend on it's service. That members paying for benefits should be happy with what they get and just "zip it".

This is my opinion however the quote is real.

Thank you for your time and attention.
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sorry but i wont ZIP it thats where I have freedom of speech on my side!!!

Bill Kexel said:
Let it go.

This site is turning into a "We hate the ADJA" site.
It's getting old.
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not for me I am just using my freedom of speech and its them that dont like me asking questions anyway

if I came to the USA I would want to be a memeber but with some idiots that run it .... no thanks

thats where I have freedom of speech to speak my mind and when I am told to ZIP it then they can jump in the nearest lake!!!
 
Bill,

It's not about hating the ADJA or anyone else most of the comments made about the ADJA are brought about through the actions of the leaders of the ADJA and always have been.

There is a long history of stupid moves by the people who have been in charge of it since the beginning, apparently that isn't going to change anytime soon! This is just the latest in a long line of missed chances and ill advised moves. The truth be told the ADJA will never be able to recover from it's leader's misplaced comments and additudes, it is all it will ever be right now! And it has all the well deserved respect it will ever have right now!
 
Neal doesn't speak for ADJA. He is simply one member expressing his opinion. We don't care about discussion when it is fair. Most of what is written isn't. We have explained that we provide benefits & that we do advertise with other trade groups, such as NACE & others. We have explained that we have been in the process of working out a program with ABC. We have explained that we are not just wedding focused, but trying to reach many organizations that can help DJs, not just wedding DJs.
 
Drax,
You allowed Neal to continue his conversation to go unchallenged by you on the other board. His posts personally attacked Joe and his wife and their situation all in the name of the ADJA. Even after I stated he must be representing the ADJA with his statements he didn't deny it. Now you choose to separate yourself from him.

Yes, your answers were to be expected and excepted. I understand you're protecting your business as we all would. But you let your little pit bull go a bit to long and attack a couple who have given so much. It is clearly know that Neal is a faithfully follower of the DJA as in my opinion so are you. At least we know where you stand. But do know this, I will not allow the arrogant attitudes of the Ferrelite cult attack my friends.

I know the people on this board do not want to hear things like this and I do apologies. But since it's been made clear that the ADJA is still looking out for the so called elite, questions will always be raised. I'm glad you answered them but those mouth pieces who jump in from DJA are the ones who do this to you.

This is the last I'll have to say on this subject. Fellow Ourdjtalk members, again I do apologies for this rude interruption in our daily fun but I can't let something like this go unchallenged. Joe and Heather do not deserve it.
 
If I may make a somewhat useful comment/suggestion...

If some of you folks are getting beat up over at Ryan's place -- why continue to go there...? :dontknow:


I get along great with Ryan and Drax, yet I very rarely post over there, because there are a few folks (maybe more than a few), who annoy the sh_t outta me (and many others) ;)


It's simple -- if you want to be a part of one of these organizations, join it -- if not, don't. Beating it to death on every DJ board on the planet will not change things. Only the folks that belong to an organization, can change it. If that doesn't work, move on... ;) :)

The time and effort being expended, for and against -- could be put to better use IMHO (unless you just like DJ politics)...

Just my thoughts :)
 
Thanks, Doug. Consider it done.
 
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