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ahoustondj said:
They could care less. I was referring to the VFW Halls and the type of Clients who rent them.
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ahoustondj said:
Read the responses above in Red
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**Tosses on the good ol' ODJT DA hat**

You think a client that rents a VFW hall deserves something of less class than a hotel? They may be on separate parts of the financial spectrum, but I doubt this qualifies as a free for all. Just because someone doesn't have the moolah for the swanky hotel doesn't mean they deserve any less service than anyone else. If I'm interpreting this wrong, then please clarify.

IMO, a bride / groom at a VFW may get just as upset over a billboard as a couple at a swanky hotel or country club, if not more.
 
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ittigger said:
**Tosses on the good ol' ODJT DA hat**

You think a client that rents a VFW hall deserves something of less class than a hotel? They may be on separate parts of the financial spectrum, but I doubt this qualifies as a free for all. Just because someone doesn't have the moolah for the swanky hotel doesn't mean they deserve any less service than anyone else. If I'm interpreting this wrong, then please clarify.

IMO, a bride / groom at a VFW may get just as upset over a billboard as a couple at a swanky hotel or country club, if not more.
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I doubt very seriously that canute is suggesting a VFW client DESERVES any less class than someone who paid more for their venue. I think it's his assessment (mine too) that the budget-end clients generally have a lower expectation and appreciation for "high-class things". I can only speak for myself when I say that I strive to deliver the same level of class and sophistication at ALL venues but still, I can clearly see that the lower-end rarely have an actual appreciation for it. They typically just want a nice party and put little value in fluff.

That said, I do think putting up a billboard to advertise yourself is just as tacky in a VFW as it is in a hotel. I put biz cards on my table, that's it.
 
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rickryan.com said:
I can only speak for myself when I say that I strive to deliver the same level of class and sophistication at ALL venues but still, I can clearly see that the lower-end rarely have an actual appreciation for it. They typically just want a nice party and put little value in fluff.

That said, I do think putting up a billboard to advertise yourself is just as tacky in a VFW as it is in a hotel. I put biz cards on my table, that's it.
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Totally agree.
 
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rickryan.com said:
I doubt very seriously that canute is suggesting a VFW client DESERVES any less class than someone who paid more for their venue. I think it's his assessment (mine too) that the budget-end clients generally have a lower expectation and appreciation for "high-class things". I can only speak for myself when I say that I strive to deliver the same level of class and sophistication at ALL venues but still, I can clearly see that the lower-end rarely have an actual appreciation for it. They typically just want a nice party and put little value in fluff.

That said, I do think putting up a billboard to advertise yourself is just as tacky in a VFW as it is in a hotel. I put biz cards on my table, that's it.
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A Gross misunderstanding again. Why is there a conversation focusing on Billboards? I never said that I use or display a Billboard. What I said is that at those type of Halls they could care less if a Billboard is used. I never implied that I use them. Sheesh, goes to show how quickly things get misconstrued. It was simply an anomoly! :rolleyes:
 
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rickryan.com said:
I doubt very seriously that canute is suggesting a VFW client DESERVES any less class than someone who paid more for their venue. I think it's his assessment (mine too) that the budget-end clients generally have a lower expectation and appreciation for "high-class things". I can only speak for myself when I say that I strive to deliver the same level of class and sophistication at ALL venues but still, I can clearly see that the lower-end rarely have an actual appreciation for it. They typically just want a nice party and put little value in fluff.

That said, I do think putting up a billboard to advertise yourself is just as tacky in a VFW as it is in a hotel. I put biz cards on my table, that's it.
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I don't think that they have less of an appreciation for what you call fluff. I just find every client can't afford fluff. You're not into giving it away and even if you did some wouldn't really know what it is or wouldn't see what the big deal is. The big deal to some is that you're good at the main job you're getting paid for and that is to play music.
 
ahoustondj said:
A Gross misunderstanding again. Why is there a conversation focusing on Billboards? I never said that I use or display a Billboard. What I said is that at those type of Halls they could care less if a Billboard is used. I never implied that I use them. Sheesh, goes to show how quickly things get misconstrued. It was simply an anomoly!
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And no one said that YOU do put up a billboard.
(speaking of misunderstanding)
 
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Ausumm said:
And no one said that YOU do put up a billboard.
(speaking of misunderstanding)
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Go back and read the last set of posts and you will see where it was leading. Here is a quote by Mr. Ryan "That said, I do think putting up a billboard to advertise yourself is just as tacky in a VFW as it is in a hotel. I put biz cards on my table, that's it." What spurned that statement?
 
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ahoustondj said:
Go back and read the last set of posts and you will see where it was leading. Here is a quote by Mr. Ryan "That said, I do think putting up a billboard to advertise yourself is just as tacky in a VFW as it is in a hotel. I put biz cards on my table, that's it." What spurned that statement?
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I was DEFENDING you, moron. Try to keep up.

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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
I don't think that they have less of an appreciation for what you call fluff. I just find every client can't afford fluff. You're not into giving it away and even if you did some wouldn't really know what it is or wouldn't see what the big deal is. The big deal to some is that you're good at the main job you're getting paid for and that is to play music.
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You may see your job "is to play music" but I don't. Music is one component of the service I provide. My main job is to enhance their event with a group of offerings, mainly geared towards entertainment, event control, and decor. If you ever grasp that concept you'll quit struggling to charge $500 (which you have to split with your "partner") and start actually making some bread at it.
 
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ahoustondj said:
Go back and read the last set of posts and you will see where it was leading. Here is a quote by Mr. Ryan "That said, I do think putting up a billboard to advertise yourself is just as tacky in a VFW as it is in a hotel. I put biz cards on my table, that's it." What spurned that statement?
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Yes! No one ever said the YOU put up a billboard!
 
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rickryan.com said:
I was DEFENDING you, moron. Try to keep up.

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You may see your job "is to play music" but I don't. Music is one component of the service I provide. My main job is to enhance their event with a group of offerings, mainly geared towards entertainment, event control, and decor. If you ever grasp that concept you'll quit struggling to charge $500 (which you have to split with your "partner") and start actually making some bread at it.
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Now what happens when you tell them the things you have to offer besides playing music and they tell you they don't want any of those things? Not all DJ's have such things to offer. One friend of mine doesn't have any lights at all. All he has to offer is him playing music at an event.

It's nice that you have add ons to offer to clients. Now if you really read what I posted you'll see I payed you a compliment. I said that you're not giving those things away for free. Now some clients would like to have those extras you have to offer but they just can't afford them. Now as you know since you've been doing this for a long time you can only let those extras go for a certain price and can't go below that price or you'll be losing money instead of making money. Which is why you have those things in the first place. You have them to make you more money then if you just showed up with your gear to play music.
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Now what happens when you tell them the things you have to offer besides playing music and they tell you they don't want any of those things? Not all DJ's have such things to offer. One friend of mine doesn't have any lights at all. All he has to offer is him playing music at an event.
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It isn't about "add ons" or equipment, it is about how you actually run a wedding.

If you coordinate a wedding properly, there will be no need for any advertising at an event, because people will be coming up to ASKING for you cards. If all you do it play music, that is never going to happen.

Total event coordination, meaning consulting with all vendors before you set foot on the venue, making sure you keep the photographer ans videographer in the loop every step of the way, keeping the guests entertained not just with music, but also by walking the room during the cocktail hour and making yourself visible to the room and not just stand behind a table in a tank top the whole night. All of these things make people want to talk to you and get to know you more.
 
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sightsandsounds said:
It isn't about "add ons" or equipment, it is about how you actually run a wedding.

If you coordinate a wedding properly, there will be no need for any advertising at an event, because people will be coming up to ASKING for you cards. If all you do it play music, that is never going to happen.

Total event coordination, meaning consulting with all vendors before you set foot on the venue, making sure you keep the photographer ans videographer in the loop every step of the way, keeping the guests entertained not just with music, but also by walking the room during the cocktail hour and making yourself visible to the room and not just stand behind a table in a tank top the whole night. All of these things make people want to talk to you and get to know you more.
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I was talking about what Rick said about add ons and how he offers them to clients to enhance their event. No matter how great the add ons are it's still about how well you are as a DJ. No add on will save you. If you suck as a DJ the add on won't cover that up.
 
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sightsandsounds said:
...but also by walking the room during the cocktail hour and making yourself visible to the room. All of these things make people want to talk to you and get to know you more.
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I almost always do this with a few cards in my shirt pocket. It's amazing that just by crusin' and schmoozin' will make guests feel much more comfortable later on to come TO YOU with requests and suggestions and then like magic..ask for a card.

Don't just be a worker...be a pro-active confidant.

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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
I was talking about what Rick said about add ons and how he offers them to clients to enhance their event. No matter how great the add ons are it's still about how well you are as a DJ. No add on will save you. If you suck as a DJ the add on won't cover that up.
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And yet again, you miss the point. Being a great DJ is a prerequisite, or a requirement. It's just the beginning and makes you "just the music guy". You won't get out of low-ball territory until you understand how to, not only deliver on the music, but to deliver on all the other stuff as well. With your attitude and apparent aptitude, you will never, ever, ever be anything more. Enjoy your crap wages, crap gigs and gang-banger clientele.

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tunes4046 said:
I replace all the napkins with the ones I had made up with my company logo and contact info, LOL
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KILLER IDEA!! "Book today and we'll throw in free napkins for your event!" :cheers:
 
I've been talking to a neon sign maker about this. I want it to say Jas kicks ass! Should I include my phone number or website? I want it to be huge! I'm thinking 8"x8".
 
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