Active vs. Passive ?

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mikeyg

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I am sure this has been debated many times, but being new to this site I had to take my own survey.

Let me begin by saying I have always used passive speakers and I know nothing about the positives or negatives of using active speakers.

I would like to know out there how many use which and why

Thanks
 
I like both.

Powered speakers make things a bit easier for me when I am rushing. Plug, plug and done.

My passive rig gives me less wires to roll up after the event. It really is hard for me to choose one over the other.
 
I am thinking very seriously of going to active speakers and mostly due to the easier set ups and tear downs.
 
Both system types have their pros and cons. We're 100% passive FOH. When we bought our system the active cabs at the time were buggy and there were multitudes of complaints about them. This seems to have been fixed.

That's not to say we'll be replacing our rig anytime soon. I have yet to see any active rig do what our passive system can do. :)

For some generalized info,

Active systems tend to be less expensive, watt-for-watt than passives.

Active cabinets need two wiring sources ~ signal and AC power supplies. You may be running AC extension cords to your actives.

Active boxes contain onboard processing as well as power amps. They tend to be heavier than their passive brothers. Processing is tailor-made for the cabinets and good tone is easier to achieve.

Active systems can pick up ground loop noise if plugged into different AC services that that of the mixer feed. It's rare but still a possibility, especially in older venues or houses with crap electrical service.

Active cabinets offer little to no amp headroom whatsoever. It is what it is. If it ain't enough, you're SOL.

Passive systems generally involve more things to move because you'll need power amps to drive them.

Getting a good tone from passives involves a bit of tinkering with your processing. It can be done but it does involve dedication on the part of the operator.

Passive boxes need only the cable feed from the amp(s).

Passive systems are generally not limited by amp headroom. Just be careful not to overdo it. :)

Passive boxes are lighter in weight than their active bretheren.

Hope this helps.
 
Old fashioned here and passive. :sqwink:

Maybe when I get too old to move those I may go active or just retire. :)
 
Passive and pretty much covered by fred for the reasons, other reasons are from use of or ownership of actives, my experience is that they just aren't (or weren't reliable).
 
I have 2 Active sets of speakers and next set will be passive.
From my point of wiew:
Passive speakers are (mostly)lighter BUT you need amp and Rack.
If youre Amp die you are in deep s....t
Actives are heavyer but you dont need an amp
If one of the speakers die another one still working
Only thing which i dont like by Actives are electricity power cords #$#=#%$

If you like fastest setup possible IMO is a Powermixer with 2 passive speakers.In that case you have to cerrie only 4 things-2speakers,Powermixer and bag with speakerstands with cords.
 
Which is exactly why I use this:

Greg, I would not want to have to pick that up and carry it very far. I do see it is on wheels, thank God!

It seems overwhelmingly that so far most hang on to the passive route. That is where I am today, but I have given serious thought to go active and mostly due to the new technology. It seems to me that for the same weight, today most active speakers are easily as light as their passive brethren.
Good example is the new EON 515's - 450 watt amps with built in eq. weight = 33 lbs. 15 inch speaker. I have heard they sound tremendous.
My speaker today is the EV- SX300 12 inch speaker. Weight = approx 33 lbs.
Does this make sense to me??? plus I have to carry a fifty pound additional box to house the amp, eq, etc. Additional hook up cables.
I am just not sure why more dj's are not going to the active systems.
 
All passive here too
 
I prefer passive for the oomph and because I have heard active rigs fail. However, there are enough smaller venues around here that have put me in really tight spaces that I am considering getting an active setup for those venues.

There are pros and cons to both types of rigs...it's really more about what you're comfortable with using. Regardless, make sure you have a backup plan for if something should falter.
 
Greg, I would not want to have to pick that up and carry it very far. I do see it is on wheels, thank God!

It seems overwhelmingly that so far most hang on to the passive route. That is where I am today, but I have given serious thought to go active and mostly due to the new technology. It seems to me that for the same weight, today most active speakers are easily as light as their passive brethren.
Good example is the new EON 515's - 450 watt amps with built in eq. weight = 33 lbs. 15 inch speaker. I have heard they sound tremendous.
My speaker today is the EV- SX300 12 inch speaker. Weight = approx 33 lbs.
Does this make sense to me??? plus I have to carry a fifty pound additional box to house the amp, eq, etc. Additional hook up cables.
I am just not sure why more dj's are not going to the active systems.

I guess it boils down to whatever trips your trigger.....

I carry 3 full systems in my trailer at all times, so that I can be ready for just about anything. The amp rack in that picture is just one of my 3. The other two are Tri-amped racks that house Peavey and Yamaha amps. If I had to, I have enough equipment to do a 4000+ person event. The last time I did one of those, was several years ago.

I think I need a bigger trailer.....:sqfrown:
 
It seems overwhelmingly that so far most hang on to the passive route. That is where I am today, but I have given serious thought to go active and mostly due to the new technology. It seems to me that for the same weight, today most active speakers are easily as light as their passive brethren.

The ones that are as light are plastic and plastic gives off a different tone...Some like that tone, some don't.

The other thing to think about with the light weight is something had to be taken away to achieve that light weight you got to wonder about the long term durability and resale value as compared to the birch cabs
 
I am just not sure why more dj's are not going to the active systems.
Quite possibly for the reasons many mention here, reliability and longevity being tantamount, my friend.

We already have passive systems that work well. They've been working well for many years. Why give up a good thing for something that might serve as well just because it's lighter in weight?

The overall quality is questionable as well. Many plastic active boxes are made in China. They're often loaded with inexpensive, off-brand drivers, not the better quality Eminence and B&C that most OEM manufacturers use.

Can you say Aluminum voice coils, children? I knew you could. ;)

And I am not convinced of the inherent quality of the built-in amps either. I expect my system to be working ten years from now. It's all Made in USA so I suspect it will be. :)

We don't lug the rig up stairs, period. If there's no working service elevator, find somebody with a pair of actives. See if them actives rattle the house or project full range above the roar of the crowd. Ain't likely to happen.
 
I have the best of both worlds. Yes Baby Dynacord Passive Tops powered by a Sub which carries 4 amps built into it. Dynacord VL 262 with the Powersub 315. No plastic in either. Being a retired cabinet maker and having seen the cutout of the sub box the construction is unsurpassable with quality and craftsmanship. GO TEAM DYNACORD/NLFX!!