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About to pull my hair out!!
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To be fair, I don't know enough about you to really make that assessment. However, you are playing the part very well so far.
I think it comes down to the "as a DJ is expected to" phrase .. there is NO universal truth there,. DJs play music .. that's what they do .. anything else that you stick under the banner is YOUR opinion of the what is expected.
It's all good, but not all skills are needed or desired for every event. NO ONE is beatmixing or scratching a bridal processional or recessional. Many of us play at events that one wouldn't consider to be a raving dance party.
All these things mentioned are skills .. along with sales, marketing, MCing, time management, and a host of others that ALSO fall under the banner of a professional DJ. To assume that one skill is more important than another in the big picture would be fallacious. It might be important to an individual .. and if you're like Taso and key in on a demographic, certain ones can be highly beneficial.
Mixing is just one element .. and in some cases, might be the least important.
Well said Steve-
I believe a well rounded Mobile DJ should offer all aspects of a good DJ. The more they offer, the better.
Sometimes certain elements outweigh each other, depending on the event-- I get that. I run sound for wedding ceremonies every week. That 's part of my "DJ Service." But I don't advertise that I am DJing at a ceremony by any means, not to mention, it would make any sense.
I always tell my friends and family who are looking at hiring a DJ-- don't sacrifice or prioritize one part, get someone who can do it all, and do it well!
I believe a well rounded Mobile DJ should offer all aspects of a good DJ. The more they offer, the better.
Sometimes certain elements outweigh each other, depending on the event-- I get that. I run sound for wedding ceremonies every week. That 's part of my "DJ Service." But I don't advertise that I am DJing at a ceremony by any means, not to mention, it would make any sense.
I always tell my friends and family who are looking at hiring a DJ-- don't sacrifice or prioritize one part, get someone who can do it all, and do it well!
The more the merrier .. but a DJ that is good on the mic and doesn't beat-mix .. is not any less of a DJ .. and might be more in demand with some customers .. than one who is a great "mixologist", but can't use a mic.
Again... beat mixing has nothing to do with cutting a song short... you can transition at the very exact times you currently do with you preset fade of 8 seconds... the only difference is you're matching the beats (with songs that are relatively the same tempo) so that the guests never skip a beat while dancing.
Guys... no one is gonna come at you and say I want a dj that beatmatches... unless theyre a dj or have a friend who is. There is nothing negative about the actual art of beatmatching... it just lines the beats up at the transition points one would currently use now. It is a skill that can elevate your quality of service to another level, and once again further differentiate you from "uncle bob". Because face it... if you're not doing something different, you're not any more or less desirable than the relative who can do it for free. Even spotify can create great playlists of music in succession now, so don't tell me your song selection is what makes a dj. And fyi... you can hire just an mc if you'd like for an event... so uncle bob can dj with his gemini sound system and they can hire an mc... and we stay home watching tv.
I think those that are very good at it are being defensive here .. and those that aren't are being a bit off-putting.
Again, it's a great skill .. one needed for an off-the-hook dance party to be sure .. it's just that some of us Uncle Bob'ers don't do those events primarily, and being single ops, have MANY other things to worry about first.
Because you don't mix doesn't mean you can't mix.
You really want to Mix I'll go head to head with you with records and no software at all let's see how good you really count beats....That makes as much sense as your Uncle Bob coment
I think we are all getting hung up on the word Mix here. I don't believe any of us let it run out and have a gap so in reality we all mix
The funny thing is Jeff... that gap exists at more events than you can imagine. I've been to two events personally... one a prom many years back where it happened. I also hear it from clients from time to time as well.
Im not offended by someone not doing it... actually it just makes us that do look better... Im actually not offended in any way (I speak for myself only), but for the purpose of conversation, I can't understand why on a forum of dj's one would say beatmatching is a negative skill for an event (and to be clear I'm talking about beatmatching similiar bpms... not an 80bpm song with 128bpm... that requires different method of transitioning usually).
same here Taso. It's mind blwoing, but they wonder why the party didn't have the same vibe.
So-called "DJs" are just playing music. Sounds like radio or my itunes playlist. Literally the same thing!!
B.c of how easy it is to buy some software these days, everyone thinks they are a DJ. It makes it so easy to sell to a potential client.
Again, it's one thing to offer sound services and advertise that, but to offer DJ services without the art of DJing is a joke.
And just to be clear, PYRO does a fantastic job of beatmixing on its own, but it no way does it offer creativity in the mixes. It's a very simple 8 bar mix.
So-called "DJs" are just playing music. Sounds like radio or my itunes playlist. Literally the same thing!!
B.c of how easy it is to buy some software these days, everyone thinks they are a DJ. It makes it so easy to sell to a potential client.
Again, it's one thing to offer sound services and advertise that, but to offer DJ services without the art of DJing is a joke.
And just to be clear, PYRO does a fantastic job of beatmixing on its own, but it no way does it offer creativity in the mixes. It's a very simple 8 bar mix.
It makes you look better to those "looking" for those skills ..
I didn't say it's a "negative" thing .. I was simply counteracting the predisposition that it was "THE" thing. It's a wonderful skill, a marketable skill, an in-demand skill .. just not the preeminent one for a host of actual working mobile DJs. Maybe it's what is needed for the evolutionary steps to go big.
But see, just playing music is THE DEFINITION of a DJ. Webster says a deejay is: "one who plays recorded music for dancing at a nightclub or party".
We're covering this too much since every skill is important to the job and somehow this one became "THE SKILL" if you want to be a "real DJ".
And "creativity" is NOT a component of playing back music .. it's the definition of "creating" something new .. and some people want that .. and some people do not.
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... The definition is simple. Doesn't say anything about beatmixing, uplighting, photo boothing, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.[emoji1]
The reason SO MANY people think they can get some software and be a DJ is because THEY CAN![emoji1]
Not always easy to get people to pay you for it, though.[emoji1]
Sure, getting people to pay for what uncle bob could do is down right wrong. It’s taking advantage of the client.
To all you music players, what do you say you offer. What is it that you are selling that is different that what another event or mobile dj offers???????
Youre right 1000%... all i've been saying is how to not be like everyone else, and actually stand out. I didn't go as far as to say it defines what a dj is. The confrontational aspect, from my end at least, is when others are saying beatmatching is negative, or that a guest would ever say , please don't blend them in a way that allows me to not stop dancing. I personally love it when dj's dont beatmix... it makes me look 1000x better. However, on this forum of friends and of those who seek to improve their profession... should we not be considerate of things to do to improve our services. Many go to the expo and seminars and local networking groups... what for if its not to be better. Buying lights doesn't make u better... buying an ddj-sz doesn't make u better... its the skills involved in lighting and djing and even photobooths that actually make the service you offer stand apart from the competition.
Here's a great one for many of you... at the Sweet 16 on saturday was a girl who was so amazed by what we did, her dad called me the very next day to see if i was available for a date in less than a month from now. It was a sunday, and I was available. He said he's cancelling the dj he had to book me because her daughter had never been to a sweet 16 like mine. Today the deposit and contract were returned.
It's only taking advantage of the client if they feel like they didn't get what they paid for.[emoji4]
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