A Song On YouTube

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drzinc said:
I beg to differ listen to this at full resolution. On a good set of speakers or headphones.

YouTube - The SOS Band -- No One's Gonna Love You

Its all up to the people that upload what the quality will be.
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Exactly right - there's no quality or concistency. Its all up to the people that upload what the quality will be, and there is absolutely ZERO chance that that ONE "must-have" song that you don't have is uploaded to youtube in HQ HD. So you play whatever version you can find, regardless of quality, or - or only slightly more desirable, if at all, you play the best of a couple of versions if you take time out of your event to preview a few of them offline.

Streaming is streaming. It's the act of streaming itself that introduces a lot of artifacts regardless of the quality of the source file used, though HD files will produce a better quality result than a 128kbps file, but even then it's not a consistent enough or quality enough source to be blended in with my library.

Way I see it, if the song is SOOOOO special that they HAVE TO HAVE IT, we're not doing them any real favors by piping in a crappy ultra-compressed, sibilance-ridden version off you tube.

But to each their own. :trirolleyes:
 
By the way i do not use youtube to stream live, I use whats built into my software...
 
drzinc said:
So if you want to broadcast your show(say a club setting) how do you do it?
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Simple honest truthful answer - I don't broadcast my show. It is a private party. I don't do clubs much and for the clubs I have and do run, it's not my responsibility to broadcast over the web.

Having said all that, we were talking about playing music from the Internet at your show.

Any private parties that I show online, were captured for later upload and not live streams.

:tribiggrin:
 
jokerswild said:
Why? What are you affraid of... the big bad internet?

That's so 1990's.... :triwink:
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I don't mind the Internet. Heck, I spend alot of time on there. I mind the stream or links messing up while you're playing. I mind not being professionally ready (after all, that is my reputation on the line).

It is our job to be as ready as we can be. In the professional realm, you wouldn't use Youtube to stream audio into your show. I can see where some of you might get the song from your respective legitimate promotional locations or online stores - but from youtube? C'mon fella's.

I have a big enough library that I can cover most venue's. For the requests that I don't have, most of them really are not what would be played at the venue anyways.
 
To take this conversation a little further - If I were to do streaming over the web, I'd have a machine fully dedicated to that purpose. I do not want my live performer also pushing content out onto the web - if it gets stuck or frozen while pushing, there goes my show.
 
ittigger said:
I don't mind the Internet. Heck, I spend alot of time on there. I mind the stream or links messing up while you're playing. I mind not being professionally ready (after all, that is my reputation on the line).

It is our job to be as ready as we can be. In the professional realm, you wouldn't use Youtube to stream audio into your show. I can see where some of you might get the song from your respective legitimate promotional locations or online stores - but from youtube? C'mon fella's.

I have a big enough library that I can cover most venue's. For the requests that I don't have, most of them really are not what would be played at the venue anyways.
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I agree with you about being as prepared as possible for any event you perform in....

That said... there are times when that odd request at the event comes up from the client.... that absolutely has to be played... that necessitates the use of sources other than your professionally prepared music... not every DJ has every song new or old available at the drop of a hat.... but, with the internet they can.

I've played streaming audio and will freely admit I got burned once.... but only once..... and that's a risk I'll take to satisfy my clients needs.
 
jokerswild said:
there are times when that odd request at the event comes up from the client.... that absolutely has to be played... that necessitates the use of sources other than your professionally prepared music... not every DJ has every song new or old available at the drop of a hat.... but, with the internet they can.
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There are times when that 'odd' request does come up. For a song that has to 'absolutely' be played, it should have been identified before the show, which would have allowed you time to obtain it.

Even I don't have every song new or old - but I also ask the question - are there 'must play' songs that I need to be aware of. A guests request is just that - a request. It's up to your professional discretion to play it. A guests request is also not considered an 'absolutely' must play song.

Some of our softwares cannot live update the library - so even if you had the ability to download it at the show, now you have to download it without error (stream across the web) and then burn it off to disc - requires processing power unless you have a separate dedicated machine - then play it via CD or rip it back and add it to your library. I have the ability to click the song and add it to the library but to keep consistent, I'd have to rip it back as an mp3 and then add it to the library.
 
ittigger said:
There are times when that 'odd' request does come up. For a song that has to 'absolutely' be played, it should have been identified before the show, which would have allowed you time to obtain it.

Even I don't have every song new or old - but I also ask the question - are there 'must play' songs that I need to be aware of. A guests request is just that - a request. It's up to your professional discretion to play it. A guests request is also not considered an 'absolutely' must play song.
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What if the requestie is the mother, bride or groom?
****e happens...
 
drzinc said:
What if the requestie is the mother, bride or groom?
****e happens...
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If you're not prepared for your Bride or Groom or their special dances, then shame on you. I give clear warning in my meetings that I need to know what your 'must play' items are. If they're not identified there, there's not much more I can do to be prepared - To add - if it's not on the list, it's not a 'must play'.

Some parties give sheets and sheets of 'must play'. Others, not so much. I have also met with the parents in the past - where the couple wants them involved.

If there was any show that you need to be prepared for, it is the wedding ceremony and reception.
 
drzinc said:
What if the requestie is the mother, bride or groom?
****e happens...
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:triwink:How can you be all four; mother, bride, groom AND DJ? Requestie (sic) = DJ:triwink:

I would have had a discussion long before the day of and, hopefully, they would already have invested enough trust in me to continue.

If, in the unlikely with proper planning and open communications prior to that day, event such an important person would make a request for a song I did not legally own AND that I was not given enough warning of the need fro, I would simply and honestly tell them I don't have it on their important songs list and therefore do not have it available.

This is a subject I revisit frequently during meeting and emails and purposefully and precisely to eliminate the situation being discussed.

Using a low quality and potentially/likely unsuccessful option, such as streaming audio or video from a unregulated, free internet site is not a plan I would implement.

P.S. it is correctly spelled "requester."

Failing to plan is a plan to fail.
 
If they come up to you at the event and say it is a must play but this is the first time they mention it, too bad for them if you don't have it. In the sticks where I live, not every venue has wi fi and even then, if you are DJing with the computer you would use to download it, I wouldn't do it unless it is at a time when you are not playing another song. Not worth the "Hiccup" risk.

That being said, as a CD DJ, I have thought about bringing my laptop with to venues with wi fi just in case it would come up.
 
Karl Langford said:
If they come up to you at the event and say it is a must play but this is the first time they mention it, too bad for them if you don't have it. In the sticks where I live, not every venue has wi fi and even then, if you are DJing with the computer you would use to download it, I wouldn't do it unless it is at a time when you are not playing another song. Not worth the "Hiccup" risk.

That being said, as a CD DJ, I have thought about bringing my laptop with to venues with wi fi just in case it would come up.
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Agreed. But as you stated, the laptop would d/l only if it is not in use / playing a song, correct?

d/l = download
 
jokerswild said:
That said... there are times when that odd request at the event comes up from the client.... that absolutely has to be played... that necessitates the use of sources other than your professionally prepared music........ and that's a risk I'll take to satisfy my clients needs.
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We'll have to rename you to The Instant Gratification Specialist DJ... yorofl:


You are an enabler of the species we call the new generation of clients, that are a PITA... ;)

Go smack yerself, for making life difficult for the rest of the DJs... :yoDur:
 
SoftJock Rick said:
We'll have to rename you to The Instant Gratification Specialist DJ... yorofl:


You are an enabler of the species we call the new generation of clients, that are a PITA... ;)

Go smack yerself, for making life difficult for the rest of the DJs... :yoDur:
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Don't forget to add that Rob can now never chastise a KJ who has "free" files..... :sqwink:
 
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