Anyone do the Innofader upgrade on the 6000MKII?

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djmm

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I ordered an Innofader and will be doing the crossfader upgrade on my Denon DN-MC6000MKII.

Has anyone else done this upgrade? There is a video on the internet and it looks fairly simple.
 
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I ordered an Innofader and will be doing the crossfader upgrade on my Denon DN-MC6000MKII.

Has anyone else done this upgrade? There is a video on the internet and it looks fairly simple.
Did you watch that video???? OMG!!! I'm not sure that guy knew what he was doing, but he took darn near every screw and nut off of that MC6000MK2 just to get the fader out!... And that calibration step??? I dunno? I guess I might try it if I was getting some bad bleed over, but I hope I won't have to. I have two MC6000MK2's.


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After using that old UREI mixer last Saturday with all its rotary controls, I found new appreciation for the lowly crossfader.
 

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I assume I was watching the same YouTube video to which the OP was referring. One thing the guy in the video did that was REALLY smart, was using a magnetic white board to put the screws and nuts on that he removed and writing next to them where they go. Great idea. I'm gonna get one... about $15 on Amazon. I can't tell you how many times I've taken stuff apart, then can't find the screws when putting it back together, OR I had screws left over that I didn't know where they went.


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I don't scratch, but I use mine all the time. Couldn't be located in a worse spot for those of us who partake of food/beveridge from our hosts! :laugh:
I'm surprised one of you enterprising young guys hasn't invented a "crossfader food shield"!
 
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Some don't use a crossfader? Interesting.

Regardless, the repair was a success. Took me about 2 hours to dis-assemble and re-assemble. Yes, nearly every screw needs to come out for you to get the top cover off. No way around that. The video was actually exactly how it has to be done. It's not a difficult repair, just a VERY time-consuming one.

I used double-sided tape to hold the screws. Marked them with post-it notes as I went. I assure you, the hardest part is keeping track of the 75+ screws.

If you don't scratch (which I do not), there is no need to do the calibration. It is ready to go right out of the box. I just had to make sure it was connected with the correct polarity. Easy fix.

Works perfectly with no more bleed in the cross-fader. Good for 40 million back and forth's, per innofader!
 
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I don't scratch, but I use mine all the time. Couldn't be located in a worse spot for those of us who partake of food/beveridge from our hosts! :laugh:
I'm surprised one of you enterprising young guys hasn't invented a "crossfader food shield"!
Food doesn't come anywhere near my equipment. Why not receive the food/drink from the side of year gear, instead of over top?
 
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Food doesn't come anywhere near my equipment. Why not receive the food/drink from the side of year gear, instead of over top?
Actually I'm too busy on gigs to eat, but on my home setup I am sometimes guilty of snacking while working on my library.

If you don't scratch, what usually happens is it doesn't wear out - it's contacts get dirty. It has sliding "ground" contacts, that when dirty, don't reduce the resistance to 0 ohms, so you get inter-channel bleed. Here's how to clean a typical crossfader -
How to Clean VCI-100 Crossfader and Contacts - Matt Gibson

Innofaders, and the Rane magnetics, work differently and are less prone to dirt, bits of potato chips, and bread crumbs.
 
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There are a BUNCH of us on this forum who use the MC6000MK2. I haven't seen anyone else post about worn out crossfaders.
Give it time, my friend. When that crossfader starts to bleed, you will know exactly what I mean.
 

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If you don't scratch, what usually happens is it doesn't wear out - it's contacts get dirty. It has sliding "ground" contacts, that when dirty, don't reduce the resistance to 0 ohms, so you get inter-channel bleed. Here's how to clean a typical crossfader -
How to Clean VCI-100 Crossfader and Contacts - Matt Gibson
Per Denon, the crossfader is wearing out. They have a 3 week replacement time. So, I did it myself.

Just trying to help people Handinon... if it doesn't apply to you, move on.
 
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Time???... Don't think I have much of it. I may DJ another year or two, then I'll have to take up something less strenuous. Maybe my controllers will last that long.


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A year or two? Your re-building of the re-builds won't be close to finished by then.
 

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Time???... Don't think I have much of it. I may DJ another year or two, then I'll have to take up something less strenuous.
Maybe my controllers will last that long.
I am sure that your cross fader will be fine. I did the upgrade and what an amazing upgrade it is.
 
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My Rane MP25 has an externally replaceable cross-fader .. Not sure why all better controllers don't have that, given it's probably the most used component on them. I have a 6000mk2 .. I'm also hoping I don't have to go through all that.
 
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