How do we change the luddite mentality?

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I see the entire mobile entertainment industry being split into two very distinct groups. People that fully utilize computers and software for running a show, and those that cling to CD's, Vinyl, and other archaic forms of music playback. This forum is here because we believe in computer based DJing, we know it's better.
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I see some companies making headway by making crossover hardware that interfaces with software. Examples of this would be final scratch, and other digital scratching solutions. Are knobs and tactile feedback the only solution to get people to crossover?

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Until reliable multi-file format DJ application is written to run on Linux, I will continue to use CDs.
 
Mr. K said:
I would have posted earlier, but my feather busted and I had to find some mud because I had run out of ink.

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I can't reply. I don't know how to translate "luddite" into cave drawings.
 
WaydeWest said:
I can't reply. I don't know how to translate "luddite" into cave drawings.
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I don't care who you are, that there is funny.

Toqer, some folks are more comfortable with CDs. It is the same concept for some folks that went from vinyl to CDs.

Honestly though, the media used for D/KJing should not matter. As long as the D/KJ has the talent to use it, so what?
 
GoodKnightDJ said:
I don't care who you are, that there is funny.

Toqer, some folks are more comfortable with CDs. It is the same concept for some folks that went from vinyl to CDs.

Honestly though, the media used for D/KJing should not matter. As long as the D/KJ has the talent to use it, so what?
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Unless it is vinyl.... then you are a luddite! :sqerr::sqwink:
 
I could care less what other dj's use as their choice of media. I have some good friends that don't use computers and i really have no interest in trying to change their mind. I use a computer because it's easier for me and the way I DJ and the events I do.
If someone was looking to change, I'd be glad to help them. To try to convince them to change is of no benefit to me or them.

It's really no secret what a computer can do. People that use different forms of media usually have a long attachment that they are not ready to give up. When they are ready to switch, they will.

Personally i was ready to switch the first time my computer played music. Just had to wait for the cost and software to make it feasable.
 
My laptop is just another player. Nothing more, nothing less. It is convenient, but I still use CDs and MDs because they just plain sound better.

-Dennis Wiggins
 
Dennis Wiggins said:
My laptop is just another player. Nothing more, nothing less. It is convenient, but I still use CDs and MDs because they just plain sound better.

-Dennis Wiggins
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Not to get into a computer vs original recording debate... but that would depend on the quality of the file created and also the quality of the hardware used to reproduce it starting with the computer itself.... if you have the highest quality wav file which is considered lossless and said to be an exact copy of the CDDA... and you are playing through most pc manu's pre-installed sound cards... the sound quality can be an issue. However, play that same file through something like an EMU-1616 or 1820m which is pro-recording equipment instead and I'd bet you wouldn't hear the difference between the the cd and the pc assumeing both are ran through the same mixer and end equipment.


opps guess i did present a valid argument for pc vs original.... sorry didn't mean to.
 
toqer said:
I see the entire mobile entertainment industry being split into two very distinct groups. People that fully utilize computers and software for running a show, and those that cling to CD's, Vinyl, and other archaic forms of music playback. This forum is here because we believe in computer based DJing, we know it's better.
How do we change the luddite mentality that exists today?

I see some companies making headway by making crossover hardware that interfaces with software. Examples of this would be final scratch, and other digital scratching solutions. Are knobs and tactile feedback the only solution to get people to crossover?

-Discuss
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It all depends on the style my friend. For example, I will present you with three scenarios and I will let you match them in your mind:

A) YOU HAVE 1500 PEOPLE JUMPING UP AND DOWN, LOOKING AT THE DJ, WITH NON STOP HIGH THUMPING ENERGY!!!! Almost like a Rave, but at a large venue like an Arena, with lasers all around...and gobo lights.

B) You have a very classy affair, every one in a suit and tie, sipping wine and an elegant place with dimmed lighting

C) You are at a lounge or bar, with a bunch of drunken fools asking to play "i got friends in low places" over and over.

AVAILABLE GEAR

SET ONE
Two turntables, Two CDJ table top CD, Laptop equipped with Serato, Multi channel mixer

SET TWO

Dennon dual 19" CD, Dennon Mixer fixed in a cube, very low key.


SET THREE

Mix and match CD players, home made case, wires showing all over the place, Gemini board.
 

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Sorry, I did not intend for my comment about computer vs CD quality to be antagonistic. My point was that the laptop is just another player.

I cannot completely depend/rely on a laptop to run my entire show. I must have backup players available. Most of what I present comes off the laptop, but I have a very deep inventory on CD and MD. As for quality, the difference between the average 192kb MP3 and a Var Bit Rate WMA is like night and day. Also, the WMA file size is reasonable. I always use the best sounding source.

Yes, the rig can be a bit messy visually, but for me, it's sound quality over "looks". Ultimately, I will be running a pair (exact duplicates) of laptops. That will take a lot of hours ripping, and a lot of disk space. But, hey, I'm 30 years into it now...

-Dennis Wiggins
 
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