My partner is something else.

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Not me. He contacted my partner on Facebook. That's what I was told.
If he contacted your partner through Facebook, then you could have given your partner a contract shell (most data filled in and assumptions made) and he could have sent it to the person via Facebook. Then at least you have a negotiation start point.
 
Great if you did electronic contracts, your partner would’ve been able to send a contract reserving the date through Facebook messenger.
So just send out a contract and you haven't discussed at least a price you want to do the event? I heard you say give a price in the contract when you send it. Now what if the job will require more work costing you more or simply because of the things the client wants makes the job worth more. Now you've set yourself up to just do the event for the price stated in the contract. I don't know anybody who would agree to pay you more when the contract says you will do it for the price on the contract.

Normally how I know things are done is you get details from a potential client so you have an idea of what you're getting yourself into and weather or not you will agree to do the event. Once you get the details then you give a price quote. Now it's up to the potential client if they agree with that price or want to negotiate with you. Sometimes there's no room for negotiations. Your price is your price end of discussions. Let them keep looking.
 
You could always say in the contract something along the lines of "Contract to hold date of [INSERT DATE] at [INSERT LOCATION] for up to 4 hours of DJ Entertainment with basic sound system consisting of 4 15" tops and 12 18" subs for an area up to 2000 sq ft for $75 with a $15 retainer to be paid at return of signed contract within 7 days. Any additional time, lighting, sound equipment, speaker recordings, DVDs, etc. shall be determined and price to be agreed upon within 14 days of event." Just sayin', I wouldn't be comfortable with that, but it is at least a gig then. Not a leprechaun riding a unicorn popping skittles as it slides down a rainbow.
 
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So just send out a contract and you haven't discussed at least a price you want to do the event? I heard you say give a price in the contract when you send it. Now what if the job will require more work costing you more or simply because of the things the client wants makes the job worth more. Now you've set yourself up to just do the event for the price stated in the contract. I don't know anybody who would agree to pay you more when the contract says you will do it for the price on the contract.

Normally how I know things are done is you get details from a potential client so you have an idea of what you're getting yourself into and weather or not you will agree to do the event. Once you get the details then you give a price quote. Now it's up to the potential client if they agree with that price or want to negotiate with you. Sometimes there's no room for negotiations. Your price is your price end of discussions. Let them keep looking.
So when final package hasn't been discussed, I say the following (in a more formal manner):

" ok if you dont have a venue or times yet... but absolutely want me... we can reserve the date for me with a "to be determined" for the venue, and for my minimum package of $2000 (or $2950 if its a prime date), which will cover an event up to 4 hrs. A $300 retainer will be needed to complete the reservation and that can be done by credit card. As we get closer, if you want to add things or add time, we can adjust the contract accordingly."

At this point the date is saved, and even if they don't add anything my set minimum price has been established. I don't need the final package up front since I own all my add ons. My pricing is also set (I have a catalog of all my pricing options, so I don't just make it up based on how I feel).

I can then send this contract with a link to anyones email, cell phone by text, or online by facebook messenger, or even instagram dm's. Heck I can send it via snapchat. I can also send a link to the online invoice this way too.
 
So just send out a contract and you haven't discussed at least a price you want to do the event? I heard you say give a price in the contract when you send it. Now what if the job will require more work costing you more or simply because of the things the client wants makes the job worth more. Now you've set yourself up to just do the event for the price stated in the contract. I don't know anybody who would agree to pay you more when the contract says you will do it for the price on the contract.

Normally how I know things are done is you get details from a potential client so you have an idea of what you're getting yourself into and weather or not you will agree to do the event. Once you get the details then you give a price quote. Now it's up to the potential client if they agree with that price or want to negotiate with you. Sometimes there's no room for negotiations. Your price is your price end of discussions. Let them keep looking.
Why would you discuss a price you set that not the client
 
You could always say in the contract something along the lines of "Contract to hold date of [INSERT DATE] at [INSERT LOCATION] for up to 4 hours of DJ Entertainment with basic sound system consisting of 4 15" tops and 12 18" subs for an area up to 2000 sq ft for $75 with a $15 retainer to be paid at return of signed contract within 7 days. Any additional time, lighting, sound equipment, speaker recordings, DVDs, etc. shall be determined and price to be agreed upon within 14 days of event." Just sayin', I wouldn't be comfortable with that, but it is at least a gig then. Not a leprechaun riding a unicorn popping skittles as it slides down a rainbow.
Thanks but couldn't do that because he never got told where the event was to take place. Bottom line the guy wasn't serious about booking a DJ because if he was he would have gotten back to my partner about the event. Like my partner said more than likely he was looking for him to say he would do it for free since they lived in the same projects. My partner decided that wasn't going to happen.
 
You have a billion reasons for why you can't do something - and that alone is the number one reason for why you can't do anything. You've heard this several times before - YOU are your number 1 roadblock.

You don't have alot of money yet you are constantly buying things. Why is that? It's because you are in control. Events will never come into your control unless you do things to make that happen. I also think your partner(s) don't want you in control. If they did, they would have turned this event information and poc over to you.
 
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You have a billion reasons for why you can't do something - and that alone is the number one reason for why you can't do anything. You've heard this several times before - YOU are your number 1 roadblock.
You can't do a damn thing about someone not supplying you with any details about an event they are having. Either they give it to you or they don't. You can't make a person give you details about an event they are having unless you pull out a gun threatening to shoot them.
 
You can't do a damn thing about someone not supplying you with any details about an event they are having. Either they give it to you or they don't. You can't make a person give you details about an event they are having unless you pull out a gun threatening to shoot them.

If your partner(s) had given you the contact information, you couldn't have called and got the details / information yourself?

You spent 200+ posts about your partners faults - yet you don't even have all the information for your upcoming event. YOU are your roadblock. Until you realize this and make a change, then things will continue just like this.

By the way, I highlighted your problem in red. Stop telling us why you can't do something. Tell us how you CAN do it. You spend alot of time talking about how some high priced DJ's are doing things and how you want to do it too. Their #1 criteria - what CAN I do for you? Then they go out of their way to make those things happen. They do not use the word 'can't'. Taso does not know what 'can't' means .. and in the real world, when you 'can't', he does. Val does not know what the word 'can't' means - and she has a tractor trailer full of equipment to back it up. Many others here also can - and do.
 
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You can't do a damn thing about someone not supplying you with any details about an event they are having.
Certainly you can .. move on and realize they ARE NOT YOUR customer .. or provide them with a price and a description of service you are willing to accept (4 hours for $500 up to 30 minutes of travel .. or whatever).
 
If your partner(s) had given you the contact information, you couldn't have called and got the details / information yourself?

You spent 200+ posts about your partners faults - yet you don't even have all the information for your upcoming event. YOU are your roadblock. Until you realize this and make a change, then things will continue just like this.

By the way, I highlighted your problem in red. Stop telling us why you can't do something. Tell us how you CAN do it. You spend alot of time talking about how some high priced DJ's are doing things and how you want to do it too. Their #1 criteria - what CAN I do for you? Then they go out of their way to make those things happen. They do not use the word 'can't'. Taso does not know what 'can't' means .. and in the real world, when you 'can't', he does. Val does not know what the word 'can't' means - and she has a tractor trailer full of equipment to back it up. Many others here also can - and do.
AGAIN MOST OF THE DETAILS FOR THE EVENT ON OCTOBER 12TH ARE COVERED. THE REST WON'T BE FAR BEHIND. STILL HAVE A LITTLE OVER 6 MONTHS TO GET THE REST OF THE DETAILS. Not worried at all.