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Quite frankly, I believe these continuous software changes, just lose more members.

Could you kindly settle on one platform Danno? Learn to do the mods yourself -- it's not very hard -- it's like a mix of Basic and early C. I can do that sh_t in my sleep.

If you can't do the mods yourself --you may be in the wrong business...
 
Randy A said:
My take on the social stuff...most come here under a cloak anyways. I don't really see the need for them. Save the overhead and system resources.
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You have a point. I'm going to disable everything but Facebook for now see how that works.

SoftJock Rick said:
Quite frankly, I believe these continuous software changes, just lose more members.

Could you kindly settle on one platform Danno? Learn to do the mods yourself -- it's not very hard -- it's like a mix of Basic and early C. I can do that sh_t in my sleep.

If you can't do the mods yourself --you may be in the wrong business...
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Ricky, we've changed platforms once but made a switch 3 times in the last 5 years. I doubt a software change is the problem here. Migrations are a bunch of busy work. Test, test, and retest then hope the actual migration goes as good as the tests.

Mods are written in PHP, which I have no problem with however they're all are off the shelf. We didn't move due to mods that'd be pretty silly. Overall, XenForo has less mods available than vBulletin 4. We changed platforms because vBulletin 4 is a bloated aging product, and development has ceased. vBulletin 5 is next to worthless and the developers don't listen to their customers.
 
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Me likes :) Thanks Dan!!!
 
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Randy A said:
Also, as Dan can attest, the less Mods and the more things built into the software the better. When doing upgrades, Mods can go wonky.

Many of the most popular Mods are eventually hard coded in.
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It's really a double edged sword. The more that's baked into core the more bloated the package becomes and more computing overhead it uses. Just look at vB, the multitude of checks it does on page load just to see if an X option is enabled adds up significantly when * by 100 or so options. To be fair, all the forum packages need to do those checks but some do it more intelligently than others.

With XF, aside from a Banner Rotator (which I could have coded myself but why waste the time), Tapatalk's plugin, and a sitemap generator we're running a naked XF install compare that with vBulletin my minimum install has 7 or 8 addons to make it more friendly.
 
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Big Dan said:
It's really a double edged sword. The more that's baked into core the more bloated the package becomes and more computing overhead it uses. Just look at vB, the multitude of checks it does on page load just to see if an X option is enabled adds up significantly when * by 100 or so options. To be fair, all the forum packages need to do those checks but some do it more intelligently than others.

With XF, aside from a Banner Rotator (which I could have coded myself but why waste the time), Tapatalk's plugin, and a sitemap generator we're running a naked XF install compare that with vBulletin my minimum install has 7 or 8 addons to make it more friendly.
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Agreed, but for the most part, the hard code will run better vs. the MOD that might not have been coded nicely.
 
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Randy A said:
Rick, quit being an ass. Software is not the reason members have dropped off here.
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When users get comfortable with a piece of software -- most tend to stick with it.

The analogy would be like buying a house. You don't buy a house every year. You make repairs or modifications, so the people living in said house are still comfortable, and don't have to relearn things.
 
Apples & oranges.

My analogy. I started out with a DJ software that was solid as a rock. Said software developer then redesigned it and the new version was not near as good. After finding out that the developer didn't really care because he basically wrote it based on his preference, I upgraded up to a more robust software. Much like Dan is doing here.

For those that prefer to stay in the slow lane, move over and stay out of the way. ;)
 
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everything is great so far EXCEPT, it only alllows a 420 character private mesage, I tried to send Steve a mesage with a question to keep it off the forum and out of debate, as Steve is well known to give the most proffesional unbaised help on the forum.
 
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oldschooldj said:
everything is great so far EXCEPT, it only alllows a 420 character private mesage, I tried to send Steve a mesage with a question to keep it off the forum and out of debate, as Steve is well known to give the most proffesional unbaised help on the forum.
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Hrm that's an odd number and not something I specifically set. As a matter of fact I explicitly set no character limit on private messages for promoted members. (Over 25 posts and 2 weeks membership). I'll poke around and get back to you.
 
Big Dan said:
Hrm that's an odd number and not something I specifically set. As a matter of fact I explicitly set no character limit on private messages for promoted members. (Over 25 posts and 2 weeks membership). I'll poke around and get back to you.
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Just sent you a message from my test account (same permissions as you) and did not bump up against a character limit.
 
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