Event Pacing - The key to the "Magic" (blog)

[mikemerlin]

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I believe this to be wrong. At least around here, we mc the whole evening. We make sure that everything is ready for the next formality. If there is a wedding planner, I'll still make sure it's done.

In my opinion, Playing music is jut a part of my job at a wedding. Even if its someone else's responsibility to have that done, the entire flow of the evening will seem awkward while they are standing around the cake,people taking pictures,yet nothing can happen because there is no knife and plate.

The same goes for every formality. I believe it's my job to let the FOB know when his dance is coming up, usually more than once. Having the bride standing in the middle of the floor with her dad in the bathroom ain't going to work

If the wedding planner has done her job, then great....it just takes a second to verify it.

You don't count on a venue. You make sure they have everything you need to be successful. Most successful wedding djs don't count on wedding planners either.

Its also important to note that less than 5% of the weddings we do have wedding planners for the reception. It may be because that we let people know that we'll be happy to coordinate everything at the reception.

if I saw a video of a bride and groom standing around the cake waiting for silverware, I'd blame the DJ

maybe thing are different in Texas

^^^^this post although extremely well written is no match for the "Professor!" His superpower of deflection will deftly enable him reiterate his own thoughts based on no experience while deftly casting stones on your pathetic "real world experience"

 

[steve149]

Its also important to note that less than 5% of the weddings we do have wedding planners for the reception. It may be because that we let people know that we'll be happy to coordinate everything at the reception.

Scott .. that can't possibly be true .. they ALL have planners/coordinators. We heard it here.

 

[Ausumm]

ROFLMFAO! I guess I should have told the Planner to go home that I would do it. I guess I should have told the MC to forget the Mic and just.....

We're not talking about DOING it...
we're talking about making sure it has been done!!

.awww never mind...why am I indulging in this nonesense! You seem to have an inherent ability to embrace stupidity!

Darn it guy! You should keep quiet. Remember, never confuse education with intelligence. If you need for me to explain that to you I would be happy to do so.

What's the matter? Did I hit a nerve?
If someone else said it, I believe you would call those responses CHILDISH.

 

[ahoustondj]

I believe this to be wrong. At least around here, we mc the whole evening. We make sure that everything is ready for the next formality. If there is a wedding planner, I'll still make sure it's done.

In my opinion, Playing music is jut a part of my job at a wedding. Even if its someone else's responsibility to have that done, the entire flow of the evening will seem awkward while they are standing around the cake,people taking pictures,yet nothing can happen because there is no knife and plate.

The same goes for every formality. I believe it's my job to let the FOB know when his dance is coming up, usually more than once. Having the bride standing in the middle of the floor with her dad in the bathroom ain't going to work

If the wedding planner has done her job, then great....it just takes a second to verify it.

You don't count on a venue. You make sure they have everything you need to be successful. Most successful wedding djs don't count on wedding planners either.

Its also important to note that less than 5% of the weddings we do have wedding planners for the reception. It may be because that we let people know that we'll be happy to coordinate everything at the reception.

if I saw a video of a bride and groom standing around the cake waiting for silverware, I'd blame the DJ

Scott, what you and others do is fine. I am sure that in Houston there are Weddings that operate similar to yours. The Weddings that I do, let me repeat, that I do, do not call for my involvement in that department. You all are dwelling on hypotheticals which so far I have not encountered. The times I did have to take on those duties it was not a problem, I did it and got paid extra for it. Why can't you all understand that? I never asked anyone to do what I am doing, why then are you all asking me to follow y'alls lead. I choose what Weddings I do very carefully for a reason so I don't end up in the scenarios some of you do. For God's sake, why the fuss. You are not operating in Houston and doing MY Gigs and neither am I operating in Cleveland and doing your Gigs. We operate differently! Should i go and park the freaking cars too if the Valet people don't show up?

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We're not talking about DOING it...
we're talking about making sure it has been done!!





What's the matter? Did I hit a nerve?
If someone else said it, I believe you would call those responses CHILDISH.

If it is childish its because I have to speak at a level where you can understand. College material is not taught or spoken in Kindergarten.

 

[mikemerlin]

Scott, what you and others do is fine. I am sure that in Houston there are Weddings that operate similar to yours. The Weddings that I do, let me repeat, that I do, do not call for my involvement in that department. You all are dwelling on hypotheticals which so far I have not encountered. The times I did have to take on those duties it was not a problem, I did it and got paid extra for it. Why can't you all understand that? I never asked anyone to do what I am doing, why then are you all asking me to follow y'alls lead. I choose what Weddings I do very carefully for a reason so I don't end up in the scenarios some of you do. For God's sake, why the fuss. You are not operating in Houston and doing MY Gigs and neither am I operating in Cleveland and doing your Gigs. We operate differently! Should i go and park the freaking cars too if the Valet people don't show up?

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If it is childish its because I have to speak at a level where you can understand. College material is not taught or spoken in Kindergarten.

Tou just said what we do is fine. I believe we have a break through!

 

[Scott Hanna]

Canute,
this is professor Scott, professor of Internet forums science. With the above post, I could have said,

Not making sure that a knife and plate are there is very basic mistake of a rookie wedding DJ. . It's complete silliness that a DJ wouldn't do that. The level of stupidity an experienced dj would be at to do something like that is beyond me

but I didn't. I tried to make my point clear. I believe you can tell, in my opinion, I believe a dj SHOULD make sure it's there . I hope I was able to convey that without being insulting.

See the difference?

 

[ahoustondj]

Canute,
this is professor Scott, professor of Internet forums science. With the above post, I could have said,


but I didn't. I tried to make my point clear. I believe you can tell, in my opinion, I believe a dj SHOULD make sure it's there . I hope I was able to convey that without being insulting.

See the difference?

See this Photo here. http://ourdjtalk.com/album.php?albumid=7&attachmentid=25834 Cake supplied by Baker, Linens supplied by Venue, Flatware supplied by Venue, Plates supplied by venue. Help from DJ to make all these things happen, NOT NEEDED. I supposed if something was missing that I should have gone into the Kitchen to seek it out, according to your policies, right? Scott, I do not need for anyone to micro manage me and neither do I need to Micro Manage anyone!

BTW if you had said Quote: Not making sure that a knife and plate are there is very basic mistake of a rookie wedding DJ. . It's complete silliness that a DJ wouldn't do that. The level of stupidity an experienced dj would be at to do something like that is beyond me I would have said tell that to those on the Forum who feel like it is their job.

 

[Scott Hanna]

Scott, what you and others do is fine. I am sure that in Houston there are Weddings that operate similar to yours. The Weddings that I do, let me repeat, that I do, do not call for my involvement in that department. You all are dwelling on hypotheticals which so far I have not encountered. The times I did have to take on those duties it was not a problem, I did it and got paid extra for it. Why can't you all understand that? I never asked anyone to do what I am doing, why then are you all asking me to follow y'alls lead. I choose what Weddings I do very carefully for a reason so I don't end up in the scenarios some of you do. For God's sake, why the fuss.

no fuss. You just asked what have I said that was wrong. In my opinion, what you said was wrong.

Now,had you said,

" I'm very picky about the wedding I do. When I do do weddings, I prefer not to coordinate it too. I'd rather focus on playing music and leave the rest to someone else. I can and have done it,but I don't like to

thats what you are saying now. but that is WAY different than what you said in the post I quoted. You didn't quantify it earlier like you did now. You basically said it was wrong for a DJ to worry about that stuff. THAT'S WHAT CAUSES THE FUSS

 

[ahoustondj]

Its also important to note that less than 5% of the weddings we do have wedding planners for the reception. It may be because that we let people know that we'll be happy to coordinate everything at the reception.

How many times do I have to say that I pick and choose which events I do. Go back to the beginning of the thread. Those choices that I make do not have the problems some of you seem to encounter. I never said all the Weddings in Texas have Planners and MCs.

 

[Scott Hanna]

See this Photo here. http://ourdjtalk.com/album.php?albumid=7&attachmentid=25834 Cake supplied by Baker, Linens supplied by Venue, Flatware supplied by Venue, Plates supplied by venue. Help from DJ to make all these things happen, NOT NEEDED. I supposed if something was missing that I should have gone into the Kitchen to seek it out, according to your policies, right? Scott, I do not need for anyone to micro manage me and neither do I need to Micro Manage anyone.

Again, you are missing my point. If everything is there like it is in the picture, then NO help is needed. But you can be darn sure that I will verify that it's there. But if the stuff is NOT there, then I'd find someone on the floor. If there is no one the floor,I will certainly go back to the kitchen to find them.

Champagne toast? Yes I'll make sure it's being poured before the toasts. 90% of the time,the hall is on top of it and no action is needed by me. . It's that 10% of the time that will get you

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We're not talking about DOING it...
we're talking about making sure it been done.

DING DING DING!!!!!!!

 

[mikemerlin]

Professor Houston's power of deflection once again asserts itself completely ignoring Scotts comments about how he handles criticism completely ignoring what is on obvious to most. It is also beneath Houston to have the common courtesy to make sure things are good to go before getting on his imaginary microphone and doing his imaginary wedding.

Houston how do you respond to the comment were not talking about doing it were talking about making sure it gets done? Waiting sir

 

[ahoustondj]

Again, you are missing my point. If everything is there like it is in the picture, then NO help is needed. But you can be darn sure that I will verify that it's there. But if the stuff is NOT there, then I'd find someone on the floor. If there is no one the floor,I will certainly go back to the kitchen to find them.

Champagne toast? Yes I'll make sure it's being poured before the toasts. 90% of the time,the hall is on top of it and no action is needed by me. . It's that 10% of the time that will get you

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DING DING DING!!!!!!!

Oh my! This must be magic to you and the other's way of thinking! This is so ridiculous it ain't even funny. You run around inspecting other people's work and will tell them what to do. You are making people appear incompetent. Don't you think the Planner will know to have all those things in place before giving me the heads up? Don't you always check to see if your equipment is plugged in and everything is on before you hit play?

 

[Scott Hanna]

How many times do I have to say that I pick and choose which events I do. Go back to the beginning of the thread. Those choices that I make do not have the problems some of you seem to encounter. I never said all the Weddings in Texas have Planners and MCs.

i never said you said that all weddings in Texas have planners. I was trying to let you know why we may be looking at things differently.

Im certainly not perfect, but I rarely have anything go wrong at a wedding....because I plan and coordinate each event with everyone involved,and verify each person knows exactly what they need to do,and when.....and I verify that they've done it.

If someone else needs me to do something to make their thing go smoothly, I would have no issue with them verifying that i understand what they need me to do and exactly when. Working together with all other vendors and guests makes things go smoothly most of the time

 

[Scott Hanna]

Oh my! This must be magic to you and the other's way of thinking! This is so ridiculous it ain't even funny. You run around inspecting other people's work and will tell them what to do. You are making people appear incompetent. Don't you think the Planner will know to have all those things in place before giving me the heads up? Don't you always check to see if your equipment is plugged in and everything is on before you hit play?

Uhhhh, what?

walking by the cake makes the wedding planner.......who is rarely there,in my case.....will make them feel incompetent?

here is a trick.....you don't need to broadcast to the world that you are doing it

i can tell you that in all of the weddings I've done, I've never had a wedding planner or hall manager get offended because I walked by the cake, because they feared I might be checking up on them.

And yes, I have had wedding planners try to get me to cut the cake with the thumbs up and they forgot to put the stuff out. I'm HELPING them by double checking. Not trying to make them feel stupid for forgetting.

 

[mikemerlin]

Oh my! This must be magic to you and the other's way of thinking! This is so ridiculous it ain't even funny. You run around inspecting other people's work and will tell them what to do. You are making people appear incompetent. Don't you think the Planner will know to have all those things in place before giving me the heads up? Don't you always check to see if your equipment is plugged in and everything is on before you hit play?

THE POWER OF DEFLECTION!

Houston how do you respond to the comment were not talking about doing it were talking about making sure it gets done?

 

[ahoustondj]

i never said you said that all weddings in Texas have planners. I was trying to let you know why we may be looking at things differently.

Im certainly not perfect, but I rarely have anything go wrong at a wedding....because I plan and coordinate each event with everyone involved,and verify each person knows exactly what they need to do,and when.....and I verify that they've done it.

If someone else needs me to do something to make their thing go smoothly, I would have no issue with them verifying that i understand what they need me to do and exactly when. Working together with all other vendors and guests makes things go smoothly most of the time

I guess then that you must feel that you are the only competent one. If everyone knows their role and they do it, why then why won't things run smoothly? You are not telling me that YOU can fix everything that goes wrong are you? It sure seems like it from my vantage point. Unless there is an Emcee I make all the special Announcements but only when told to do so by the Planner or someone who has that authority. It is a different approach and it has always worked for me. I guess if you were a contractor and your job was to lay the Tiles on the floor that you will run around checking on what the Roofer is doing and the Electrician etc. Go ahead bro. Take on the responsibilities. I hope you realize that with those volunteered responsibilities come the Liabilities. Keep playing Hero!

 

[Scott Hanna]

THE POWER OF DEFLECTION!

Houston how do you respond to the comment were not talking about doing it were talking about making sure it gets done?

Mike, I think he did. He said that if you make sure it gets done, you will make them feel incompetent because you checked up on them. He also said its so ridiculous, it ain't even funny. Which, ironically, IS funny

 

[ahoustondj]

To Whom It May Concern,
When I turn my back and walk away, it does not mean you have won. It simply means that these stupid rantings are not worth any more of my time! I have better things to do. Have a good evening!

 

[steve149]

So I'm taking my ball and going home.

 

[Scott Hanna]

I guess then that you must feel that you are the only competent one.

nothing could be further from the truth. I work with some amazing halls, photographers, planners,caterers, and many other vendors

my job is to MC the evening. Which means I'm responsible for the flow. Which means I need to work with all of them and verify that they are ready when I think they are going to be.

Can I fix it? I don't bring a knife with me.....but I certainly can avoid inviting all of the guests to the cake until they have it ready.

I guess I do see why you don't like doing weddings. Having to work and coordinate things with other vendors sounds like torture to you