The Best Wedding Ever.... here is how I will handle it...

[Papa Deuce]

I had a $30 credit on amazon for opening a business credit card through them. I used it on Peter's book. Personally, the idea of giving him any of my hard earned cash disgusts me.... At the same time, I not dumb enough to belive that there isn't anything I can learn from him. Heck, I have learned stuff from some of the TEENS on this board. So, his arrogance aside, I am sure there is some value in his book. ( and no "real" money came out of my pocket )

So, here is what I plan to do. I will read the book as objectively as I can, already knowing that he hates us part timers. At that point I will write a reveiw of the book on amazon. I will note that I am a PART TIME DJ in the actual review. I will also defend the PT DJ in the reveiew. But, at the same time, I will give him credit in the reeview for the the thing I think are good, strong ideas.

I think if we can be objective this may be a good idea. We ALL know that many PT DJs can, and do, exceed the quality of some FT DJ's.... It's just a fact. Full Time does not make you better; A desire to be excellent at your craft / slash business does.

 

[Fred Wright]

Seems as though you have your mind made up already, lol

Greets, Papa and thanks.

I understand that it's going to be easy for any one of us to prejudge this work. Out of respect for general knowlege I beg of you not to do this.

Try to avoid associating the book with Pete. Just open it and read as though it were written by anyone else.

Reason I say this.. the book is written for and marketed to brides, after all. Your missus was a bride once. Ask her opinion of questionable passages and/or comments.

When you write a review, please avoid the temptation to appear biased. The reader will spot bias in a moment and disregard the gist of the review. The review should be written and proofread over a period of days, possibly in a Word document at first. When you've got it worded the way you want it, then C&P it to your review at Amazon.

Just some thoughts.

 

[Jon Tuck]

thanks Chuck.

 

[Papa Deuce]

Fred, maybe I didn't come through correctly. I will do my darndest to be objective. Even though HE disgusts me, he obviiously is doing some things that work. I can respect that.

As long as a I put my disclaimer in there, that I am a PT DJ, I think it will be fine. I will just state that I think his stance on PT DJ's is utter crap.... but I'll have it phrased in an eloquent way!

 

[barry stamper]

I own and read this book alot I could care less who wrote it, the information inside is fantastic and I have already put some ideas into play. I love this book personally and hope you all can give it a chance.

 

[Papa Deuce]

I own and read this book alot I could care less who wrote it, the information inside is fantastic and I have already put some ideas into play. I love this book personally and hope you all can give it a chance.

See, I just can't quite go there... he has open disdain for you as a PT DJ, and you end up helping him make money.... But at least - I guess - I am willing to be open minded enough to see what else he has to offer.

 

[Fred Wright]

Thanks, Papa. I understand where you're coming from.

Pete's politics aside, read the book for yourself. Take what you can use from it and disregard the rest.

 

[Proformance]

Why not just let go of the FT / PT thing?

Regardless of how you want to compare the two - the benefit of the doubt goes to Merry.

Consider the reaction of the man on the street: Logic suggests that a full time operation will have better resources and capability than that of a part timer. Few people would dispute that as a general proposition.

But you have to separate that from the individual. Being a full time operation doesn't mean your people (or yourself) won't be **jerks**.

If you were full time - knowing that a logical person will accept the proposition that full time is likely to be better rooted than part time - wouldn't you too make marketing advantage of that?

So if you're going to read the book - do it because the unique stage of development you consider yourself to be in suggests his information is something you need or want.

Newbies will be thrilled.
Experts will be unimpressed.
Those level in PM's experience will find it interesting, but not all that useful.

Just figure out where you're at, compare it to where you want to be, and then let everyone know whether or not the book has served your personal situation.

The argument over full vs part time is one you can't really win because it's a perception that only matters when you're making your sales pitch. Once the show is over - it's a mute point.

 

[Guest]

Sorry Papa, already went there...

As an Entertainment Host (DJ), I was looking for something I could direct my clients to for some great information for their wedding. I knew that this book existed based on all of the hype about in the DJ community and I bought it to give it a look-see.

Mr. Merry has presented some very good ideas in this book and I would encourage you to purchase it as part of your bridal library.

The part that I do not agree with lies in Chapter seven and deals with full-time vs. part-time DJs and pricing. Mr. Merry fails to consider that there are some part-time DJs in our industry that remain part-time because they simply do not wish to enter the business on a full-time basis; I am one of these people and I do communicate with my clients very well and also give them excellent customer service.

In regard to pricing, the advice I will give you is to check out the Cost Of Wedding site (www.costofwedding.com) and look at what a wedding will cost you in your area and build a budget based on that. Then, even though some DJs hate this, shop around. Lastly, interview at least three candidate companies and at most five. I put the limit on five because after that you tend to get into information overload.

As I said, the book is good when you take the section on pricing and part-time vs. full-time.

 

[Jon Tuck]

Tom did you

post that where Papa bought his copy ? Hes going to go Amazon with his take if im understanding him correctly.

Sorry Papa, already went there...

 

[Guest]

post that where Papa bought his copy ? Hes going to go Amazon with his take if im understanding him correctly.

Yes, I did.

Honestly, when you take out all the crap in chapter 7 about the Entertainment Director, pricing, and f/t vs. p/t, it is a book brides (and DJs) can use.

I'm using several ideas from it. I already had a few in the stable.

I have to give credit where credit is due but also warn the buyers about chapter 7.

 

[Bill Hollick]

See, I just can't quite go there... he has open disdain for you as a PT DJ, and you end up helping him make money....

Papa,

If you must look at it this way, carry it to it's logical conclusion.

You helped Peter make some money.

If you find the material in the book as useful as some have said it is, the book will help you make some money. Likely, considerably more money than Peter made on the single sale to you.

Disdain aside, in the end, you win.

Does that work for you?

 

[Kirby Ball]

I have one request when you do the review.

Tell me one thing that is in this book that is "original" and hasn't been done by anyone else before.

 

[Papa Deuce]

Papa,

If you must look at it this way, carry it to it's logical conclusion.

You helped Peter make some money.

If you find the material in the book as useful as some have said it is, the book will help you make some money. Likely, considerably more money than Peter made on the single sale to you.

Disdain aside, in the end, you win.

Does that work for you?

Now THAT, I like, AND APPRECIATE!

 

[Papa Deuce]

I have one request when you do the review.

Tell me one thing that is in this book that is "original" and hasn't been done by anyone else before.

I probably am not qualified to do that.

 

[Kirby Ball]

I probably am not qualified to do that.

Fair enough, I can respect that..but I think you are qualified.

So far what little that has been "leaked" to us "non-believers" sounds pretty much the same schtick that has been repeated over and over for a number of years by different people.

Ya know, it's just my opinion..doesn't make me right or wrong. It's just how I feel.

 

[Guest]

Kirby:

Peter openly says in the book that these things have been gathered from his own experience and the experience of others.

What is unique is that they have been put together into a publication that, for all intents and purposes, has been aimed at brides.

 

[Guest]

I have a novel idea...

Papa... send the book out to others here, who pay the shipping from one member to the next. Sort of like checking it out from the library, and keep track of who on the thread has it at what time.

Each member can have it for 3 days, then mail it to the next. Put your address inside the cover, and each one who reads it will send you a buck for borrowing it. When the list is expired, the last one will mail it back to you.

So, cost of reading the book would be a buck plus postage. If you can get 29 members to rent your book, you'll break even. Sound fair? Geez... I'd even do that with my book.

 

[Papa Deuce]

Papa... send the book out to others here, who pay the shipping from one member to the next. Sort of like checking it out from the library, and keep track of who on the thread has it at what time.

Each member can have it for 3 days, then mail it to the next. Put your address inside the cover, and each one who reads it will send you a buck for borrowing it. When the list is expired, the last one will mail it back to you.

So, cost of reading the book would be a buck plus postage. If you can get 29 members to rent your book, you'll break even. Sound fair? Geez... I'd even do that with my book.

Not a bad idea... though I know it will take me a week to read, I would think. And I love the idea that PM doesn't make any extra $$$!

 

[Jon Tuck]

Lets use some group think and make this happen But can us Canucks use our funny monopoly money. We dont have a stinkin dolla bill its a coin called a Loonie=1 Canadian dollar or 85 american cents. It would cost more to mail it here than the dollar paid lol. Unless of course we sent it to Kevin in Bellingham and he brought it up when we have lunch,