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The DJ software I use allows you to use streaming of audio and video at your events and it is totally legal. As for those that do not use the internet while playing I respect your choice but with my software it is actually intergrated into the the software and encrouged. If you have a stable and fast connection use it to your advantage.
 
The DJ software I use allows you to use streaming of audio and video at your events and it is totally legal. As for those that do not use the internet while playing I respect your choice but with my software it is actually integrated into the the software and encouraged. If you have a stable and fast connection use it to your advantage.

Keywords - If and Stable
 
I don't even know what Spotify is, yet I'm not at all opposed to using streaming sources to play requests. It is also NOT illegal to play a song from You-Tube, or a smart phone at any private event. If you have access to the song you can play it.

Only broadcasters and commercial establishments have to abide by sourcing committments. Private events are legally beyond the reach of such restrictions.

I get paid to PLAY songs not stockpile them. I am perfectly happy to play a song and not have to own it - especially deep album tracks that I'll never use again. Let the client hand me their iPod, or personal CD. Far be it from me to let my ego get in the way of saving time, money, and storage space.


I think media access wil indeed supercede media collecting. Having a large music collection is of zero value in a world of almosty unlimited online access. The age of the "DJ" is already over - America's got talent and this is now the age of the "entertainer." It may seem as though there are more DJs than ever today but, in reality that specific profile and value is diminishing very rapidly. It's not just the economy at work there is also a very big shift in demand and expectation.

That is so well written and logical that I have no retort. The time is coming to put up or shut up I suppose.

I actually stream from youtube and playlist.com in the lounge all the time. Ricky and a few other guests come up with off the wall requests all the time. However, I am not quite ready to roll those dice at a gig.
 
Sorry Bob, if you feel the need to stroke your ego and call yourself an entertainer, then by all means do so. Just remember when you boil it down at the end of the day you're still a DJ, doing the job of a DJ which is to play music.

I think your ego is reading something I didn't say.
I'm a DJ - and a damn good one.
That won't change the reality of what modern entertainment based around DJs has becomes and where it is going.
You're seriously out of the loop if you think the leading edge of this business is still just "to play music."
 
I think (hopefully we all think) that those of us that have been around the block for awhile, are all damn good DJ's. Some better in certain areas than others. That's one of the things that makes this place cool - we get to bounce ideas off each other.

If the leading (or any) edge of this business that we call DJ - isn't to play music, then what is it? Have we expanded into baking bread? Glass blowing? Rocket science?
 
The idea that online acces is somehow "unstable" is incorrect. Stability is mostly a matter of how much you are willing to pay to obtain it, and prepare to use it effectively. CDs skip, softwares glitch, and computers crash - nothing is sacred. Amps fail, speakers blow, and mics stop working. It's all part of the same thing and you deal with all the same way - with preparation and backup.

Your customers are already integrating this into their daily lives. How will they perceive your service offer if they are more technologically ready to produce a music or video set than you are? Part of being the "professional" is knowing where the client's capability ends and yours should begin. Keeping your value as a DJ requires a constant adaptation and advancement with respect to the baseline experiences of your clients. It is that personal experience that defines their expectations when searching for an appropriate DJ.
 
The idea that online acces is somehow "unstable" is incorrect. Stability is mostly a matter of how much you are willing to pay to obtain it, and prepare to use it effectively. CDs skip, softwares glitch, and computers crash - nothing is sacred. Amps fail, speakers blow, and mics stop working. It's all part of the same thing and you deal with all the same way - with preparation and backup.

You must be the 'can you hear me now' guy from Verizon or something. I know several areas OUTSIDE that you cannot get a signal, no matter how much money you got - unless you're Uncle Sam himself and print your own money as you need it (and even then, good luck). Indoors is a whole nother frickin' animal!

As much as you like to think technology is stable, tell that to the millions that lost blackberry access for days. I can come up with a zillion other technology issues too but that one rings as the most recent. At the very least, it sounds like you need to take a drive into the country and see how good your data link / cell service works then. I also promise you that in your local metro area, there are TONS of bad spots - wifi, cell, what have you - that any amount of money would not immediately fix - and may never fix.

As to your statement of 'a matter of how much you are willing to pay to obtain it', are you willing to have some expensive one off connection that costs zillions just for that one song? Is that built into your price - must be an astronomical charge. Cell / mobile data service sucks in alot of areas, period.

Your customers are already integrating this into their daily lives. How will they perceive your service offer if they are more technologically ready to produce a music or video set than you are? Part of being the "professional" is knowing where the client's capability ends and yours should begin. Keeping your value as a DJ requires a constant adaptation and advancement with respect to the baseline experiences of your clients. It is that personal experience that defines their expectations when searching for an appropriate DJ.

Your customers are not integrating anything other than texting into their daily lives - and if you've been texting for any amount of time, you too get messages that your text could not be sent. Ever try watching videos on your phone? Sucks, don't it. And your customers know this - they know that the Internet is NOT a stable app on your phone, hotspot, etc. They know this, yet just like they ask for songs you may not have, they may think you have a better connection than they do.

On another note, this is not to say that the manner in which you operate your business is wrong - but don't look down your nose at anyone else because they don't do it like you.
 
The point here is pretty bold and real. The day is coming and it will be as Bob said and as the client Base are already beginning to expect. They will pass on quality etc to get those unattainable songs via current media sources and in the not so distant future the option for secure and proper quality stream will arrive. The day is coming when the streaming options will be valid and solid. Its sort of like the mp3 world which has passed over the old dog method of physical media. Folks I am saying this now like a few who have mentioned minimally above you are going to fall by the wayside and miss the bus if your not prepared for the ride ahead. Just like new music you have to stay ahead of the game or you will expire or fight for your right to party!
 
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You must be the 'can you hear me now' guy from Verizon or something. I know several areas OUTSIDE that you cannot get a signal, no matter how much money you got - unless you're Uncle Sam himself and print your own money as you need it (and even then, good luck). Indoors is a whole nother frickin' animal!

As much as you like to think technology is stable, tell that to the millions that lost blackberry access for days. I can come up with a zillion other technology issues too but that one rings as the most recent. At the very least, it sounds like you need to take a drive into the country and see how good your data link / cell service works then. I also promise you that in your local metro area, there are TONS of bad spots - wifi, cell, what have you - that any amount of money would not immediately fix - and may never fix.

As to your statement of 'a matter of how much you are willing to pay to obtain it', are you willing to have some expensive one off connection that costs zillions just for that one song? Is that built into your price - must be an astronomical charge. Cell / mobile data service sucks in alot of areas, period.

Dude - no man is an island - how about actually working with the people and places that surround you?
All communication does not have to be wireless. The next time you're in any major venue - look at the wall behind you. (LAN)
Playing in someone's back yard in the middle of nowhere are you? What's to stop you from running a wireless bridge to their WIRED router?
Where there's a will there's always a way.

Your customers are not integrating anything other than texting into their daily lives - and if you've been texting for any amount of time, you too get messages that your text could not be sent. Ever try watching videos on your phone? Sucks, don't it. And your customers know this - they know that the Internet is NOT a stable app on your phone, hotspot, etc. They know this, yet just like they ask for songs you may not have, they may think you have a better connection than they do.

On another note, this is not to say that the manner in which you operate your business is wrong - but don't look down your nose at anyone else because they don't do it like you.

Texting? Seriously? That's what you think of as the peak of people's multi-media sense?

You haven't heard of the iPod and iEverything that goes with it? Sattelite radio? Cable systems with Karaoke channels? Free PC Karaoke players and media access? Laptop computers, Media players, iMovie, Open Source apps, Flat screen TVs, HD video camcorders, hard disk recorders, recordable CDs, MP3's, unlimited media subscriptions, yadahh yadahh yadahh?

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The point here is pretty bold and real. The day is coming and it will be as Bob said and as the client Base are already beginning to expect. They will pass on quality etc to get those unattainable songs via current media sources and in the not so distant future the option for secure and proper quality stream will arrive. The day is coming when the streaming options will be valid and solid. Its sort of like the mp3 world which has passed over the old dog method of physical media. Folks I am saying this now like a few who have mentioned minimally above you are going to fall by the wayside and miss the bus if your not prepared for the ride ahead. Just like new music you have to stay ahead of the game or you will expire or fight for your right to party!

You're so right about misconceived notions of "quality."
I don't see any sign of internet "quality" slowing down it's applications and popularity. :)
Nor do I see anyone throwing away MP3s to go back to their CDs.
 
I don't doubt that the future will have more options for me to have access to media via the cloud or internet in the future. In today's world, I am at different venues. I cannot count on the internet connection, can't count on being able to be wired in at the venue.

I do have multiple sources to be able to get online wirelessly to get music if I need it. I just don't trust the stability TODAY to stream music live at at different venues. That doesn't mean I never will. Today, If I need a song during an event, I purchase it online, and download it.....so if and when I need it again, I don't have to be online the next time.
 
So, you believe that if the stability was better, it would be the way to go? Isn't the first consideration the legality?

No, I only do private events
 
Dude - no man is an island - how about actually working with the people and places that surround you?
All communication does not have to be wireless. The next time you're in any major venue - look at the wall behind you. (LAN)
Playing in someone's back yard in the middle of nowhere are you? What's to stop you from running a wireless bridge to their WIRED router?
Where there's a will there's always a way.

Now exactly how many facilities do you go to that have a wired drop - and that's in a major venue? Seriously? We have problems getting 2 dedicated 20 amp circuits, let alone a frickin' data drop. Seriously dude. All communication does not have to be wireless but show me a well populated data drop society and I'll believe otherwise.

Playing in someone's back yard in the middle of nowhere are you? What's to stop you from running a wireless bridge to their WIRED router?
Where there's a will there's always a way.

A backyard in the middle of nowhere? At times, yes. I AM a mobile guy. Whats to stop me from running a wireless bridge to their router - them giving up their access - and my reliance of the stability of said network and security of my machines. Sorry, but system security / protection trumps all. Oh yeah - not everyone has a wired router. This IS the world you live in my friend.

Texting? Seriously? That's what you think of as the peak of people's multi-media sense?

Yep, open your eyes.

You haven't heard of the iPod and iEverything that goes with it? Sattelite radio? Cable systems with Karaoke channels? Free PC Karaoke players and media access? Laptop computers, Media players, iMovie, Open Source apps, Flat screen TVs, HD video camcorders, hard disk recorders, recordable CDs, MP3's, unlimited media subscriptions, yadahh yadahh yadahh?

:)

Unlimited media subscriptions? No, they'd rather steal the music still. Recordable CD's are not used lots anymore. iPod's old news. Sat radio, old news - (and they go out often). Alot of this is old technology. Cable TV goes out often too. There are still places that get alot of brown outs.

That's a mighty big jump going from 'The idea that online acces is somehow "unstable" is incorrect' to talking about iPods and flat screen tv's. I don't doubt that technology is changing and will touch more of our kids and their kids lives than ever. I'm doubting the world as you see it - that there's a great connection anytime you need one. Realistically, there isn't - nor would I bet my performance on it.
 
You're so right about misconceived notions of "quality."
I don't see any sign of internet "quality" slowing down it's applications and popularity. :)
Nor do I see anyone throwing away MP3s to go back to their CDs.

I guess you haven't noticed that alot of sites are scaling back on their media presentations then. I wonder why that could be. I doubt people will throw away their MP3's too. I see the Internet slowing down quite a bit with the mobile phones now being bandwidth limited. Just wait 'til they start limiting your bandwidth at home - that plan IS in the works.
 
LOL. ittigger - I don't think the internet is just a fad and the iWorld of media porducts is hardly passe'.

You don't see the connections and access points around you because you are clearly not looking for them.
 
Now exactly how many facilities do you go to that have a wired drop - and that's in a major venue? Seriously?

Most if not all have wireless access, and every major hotel and meeting venue has wired wall ports in every ballroom salon. You just have to ask for a guest pass or pay their fee.

A backyard in the middle of nowhere? At times, yes. I AM a mobile guy. Whats to stop me from running a wireless bridge to their router - them giving up their access - and my reliance of the stability of said network and security of my machines. Sorry, but system security / protection trumps all. Oh yeah - not everyone has a wired router. This IS the world you live in my friend.

Walk into any neighborhood and you'll find the broadcast of nearly a half-dozen wirelsss routers, most of which will be entirely unsecured. I was on a beach in Cape Cod when someone wanted an important request I didn't have. Thank God for people with no technical savvy and unsecured wirless routers in their summer cottages! :)

I'm doubting the world as you see it - that there's a great connection anytime you need one. Realistically, there isn't - nor would I bet my performance on it.

Like most DJs, you sound primarily doubtful and upset that it will not be free or cheap. That I can't help you with.
 
LOL. ittigger - I don't think the internet is just a fad and the iWorld of media porducts is hardly passe'.

You don't see the connections and access points around you because you are clearly not looking for them.

Fad? Who said anything about a fad? As for what I know about connections and access points, you are clearly wrong and should not make claims (of me) about items that you are unfamiliar with me having knowledge of. I shall simply say that I am an IT guy and that I know exactly what to look for, how to find it and how to use it.

Most if not all have wireless access, and every major hotel and meeting venue has wired wall ports in every ballroom salon. You just have to ask for a guest pass or pay their fee.

I guess you haven't been into alot of ballrooms lately / nor had to use the variety of them if they did have one. For some, they do have it and it is fully usable. For others, it's one thing to say you have Internet. It's another to say it's usable. For even more others, they just don't have it.

Walk into any neighborhood and you'll find the broadcast of nearly a half-dozen wirelsss routers, most of which will be entirely unsecured. I was on a beach in Cape Cod when someone wanted an important request I didn't have. Thank God for people with no technical savvy and unsecured wirless routers in their summer cottages! :)

Walking into 'any' neighborhood doesn't guarantee you anything. This is not a safe assumption.

Like most DJs, you sound primarily doubtful and upset that it will not be free or cheap. That I can't help you with.

Doubtful and upset? WTF? I have no idea where you got that logic from because that is SO far from the truth that it isn't funny - no wait, it kinda is funny. It actually sounds like the reverse may be true tho - being that you use unknown unsecured wireless routers. Did you offer to pay for that access? It also sounds like the very people you say are technically more knowledgeable / ready than us are now 'people with no technical savvy'. Ya can't have it both ways.
 
Bob goes overboard at times but he is true with the connectibility here and in Vancouver we csn pretty much get wifi anywhere these days and every venue even out in the bush have and will share the code for theirs in those venues. However I can say Bobs view on the number of brainless non tech savy individuals who cant secure their line are dimminishing fast. In a given neighborhood 5 yrs ago 10 connections and nine non secure. Today 10 connected and if lucky one non secure.Thats my views since traveling across Canada and in the states atleast in the Western portion. Perhaps in the East its fact but not in my travels.