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bestdjinfl

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Apr 10, 2008
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Wow in the past two weeks I have booked 2 very nice weddings @ $1750.00 each. Both brides had read Peter's book The Best Wedding Reception Ever Both new the importance of a true professional entertainer. On bride Melanie Saxson in fact almost booked a local company for $400.00. She then read Peter's book and made some calls to some of the vendors she will be using and of course my name came up. Anyway we met yesterday and it was so pleasant to have an educated bride what a great meeting. I emphasized to her when it comes to music and sound alone myself and the $400 guy may sound the same BUT that is where the similarities end. I explained how the way I play the music, and what I say on the mic, and what I do for extra entertainment and customization. From the personal meetings, to fully scripted and customized intros, etc. She loved that I came out to meet her and she didn't have to do it all online like the other company wanted to do. Her main issue is she just didn't want someone who just played music. She wanted someone who could bring her wedding to life. Peter's book is awesome and can really elevate your income level. Peter thanks so much!! I know there are some others on various forums that have had the same experience with educated brides. This is wonderful.
 
Ray awesome that you booked those two gigs.

For the rest of us I'm just gonna go out on a hunch here and say...getcha self some popcorn because here we go again.... :happy1:
 
She loved that I came out to meet her and she didn't have to do it all online like the other company wanted to do.


I'm no giant fan of meetings, but it is part of the game for weddings. And I could do all my stuff online, but have chosen not to. I just do my music list.

It's good to see that some brides don't want to do it all online.

BTW, I agree with Steve... you sold you.
 
Wow in the past two weeks I have booked 2 very nice weddings @ $1750.00 each. Both brides had read Peter's book http://www.thebestweddingreceptionever.com/ . Both new the importance of a true professional entertainer. On bride Melanie Saxson in fact almost booked a local company for $400.00. She then read Peter's book and made some calls to some of the vendors she will be using and of course my name came up. Anyway we met yesterday and it was so pleasant to have an educated bride what a great meeting. I emphasised to her when it comes to music and sound alone myself and the $400 guy may sound the same BUT that is where the similiarities end. I expalined how the way I play the music, and what I say on the mic, and what I do for extra entertainment and customization. From the personal meetings, to fully scripted and customized intros, etc. She loved that I came out to meet her and she didn't have to do it all online like the other company wanted to do. Her main issue is she just didn't want someone who just played music. She wanted someone who could bring her wedding to life. Peter's book is awesome and can really elevate your income level. Peter thanks so much!!


I do every single thing you just mentioned there except for the face to face meeting. Glad you booked them, but is sitting across from someone as opposed to talking to them online or on the phone worth $1000....umm...I think not.
 
I do every single thing you just mentioned there except for the face to face meeting. Glad you booked them, but is sitting across from someone as opposed to talking to them online or on the phone worth $1000....umm...I think not.


Yeah, but Ray doesn't wear a hoodie.
 
The Face to face is truly an effective tool. I close virtually 100% of any event where I meet face to face.

I met with a bride and groom yesterday (it was thanksgiving here - so a holiday) at a local Tims.....Let me preface that my rates are typically 3 - 400 higher than the other locals.

We talked for 1/2 an hour where we discussed time line, ideas for music, etc.

At the conclusion they indicated that they had a couple of other services that they were checking into and would let me know this week; one way or the other. I replied no issues shook hands....left for my vehicle...no more than 25 feet. I heard: " Steve- can we do up that contract now; we want to book your services."

I'm no fan of Peter; that being said, I think the man offers valuable information. If it wasn't for the part time crap in his book, I'd have bought a dozen or so copies.

That being said, Ray is a part timer (am I correct, Ray?) so the book hasn't hurt him. What that book truly does is makes the bride "value" what we, as pros, do...and make them realize that with that "value" it doesn't come at a minimum price.

I can't see me getting $1,750 for a wedding in this area for a while; my average rate is creeping upward......and that's good....
 
Her main issue is she just didn't want someone who just played music. She wanted someone who could bring her wedding to life.

Let's hope her guests feel the same way.

Look, if you're selling something beyond the normal duties (ceremony, grand entrance, coordination, MC...oh yeah, and the all important "just playing music") that costs $1800, then that's just what the price is. It's not some huge epiphany.

I'm sure the $400 service is providing what they're selling as well. That just happens to cost $400. If the buyer doesn't need a meeting and the other extras, then they're getting just as good a deal as anybody hiring anybody else.

I won't congratulate you based on the fee you were able to get. I will congratulate you for being a working DJ and making your clients happy. However, that's what we're all doing every week.

:tricool:
 
I do every single thing you just mentioned there except for the face to face meeting. Glad you booked them, but is sitting across from someone as opposed to talking to them online or on the phone worth $1000....umm...I think not.

Patrick - you can't deny that meeting face to face offers the opportunity to sell one value; that opportunity, I think, lends itself to perhaps a higher rate?

It be an interesting study; correlating face to face meetings with rates....

Hank - question: I know your business model and philosophy and understand that that's the way you want to run your business; no quarrels at all with that.

Do you think you could get that "premium rate" if you were so inclined?
 
Let's hope her guests feel the same way.

Look, if you're selling something beyond the normal duties (ceremony, grand entrance, coordination, MC...oh yeah, and the all important "just playing music") that costs $1800, then that's just what the price is. It's not some huge epiphany.

I'm sure the $400 service is providing what they're selling as well. That just happens to cost $400. If the buyer doesn't need a meeting and the other extras, then they're getting just as good a deal as anybody hiring anybody else.

I won't congratulate you based on the fee you were able to get. I will congratulate you for being a working DJ and making your clients happy. However, that's what we're all doing every week.

:tricool:


Hank - herein lies the sole problem; placing an appropriate value on our service; If the wedding costs 25 grand; is $1750.00 a value for what the provider offers. At 400 bucks, are we undervaluing what we bring to the table?
 
Hank - question: I know your business model and philosophy and understand that that's the way you want to run your business; no quarrels at all with that.

Do you think you could get that "premium rate" if you were so inclined?

Without question. I get told that all the time by venues, vendors and clients.
My business turns a pretty good profit from its prices. I'll wager it's equal to or more than those charging those so called "premium rates".

So why do it? Ego?
 
If the wedding costs 25 grand; is $1750.00 a value for what the provider offers.

I wouldn't know Steve. The cost of a wedding is none of my business. What it costs "me" to be there and perform, is. Am I entitled to a certain cut of the wedding cost?
 
Interesting take, and certainly valid.

Allow me to ask respectfully:

If they spend X dollars on a wedding, is having you there a better insurance policy than say having another company that charges less than you do?

If so, well yes, if you are responsible for 90-95% of the event's success, maybe you should think in those terms.

If you don't, perhaps you are correct with your assessment, and that is totally cool.

But a cheaper DJ company can use your same logic and state
"What it costs "me" to be there and perform, is. " as a way of justifyign a lower rate.

The only other point I can make is that perhaps with your take, you may be leaving money on the table.

I wouldn't know Steve. The cost of a wedding is none of my business. What it costs "me" to be there and perform, is. Am I entitled to a certain cut of the wedding cost?
 
Hank - Why not the same philosophy with the full time job; leave some money on the table...

What full time job? :triwink:

An employer sets their price the same way I do. You can take or leave it, like it or hate it.

If the client was going around offering a set figure for the task at hand, instead of us quoting what we want for it, then THAT would fit your analogy.
 
She loved that I came out to meet her and she didn't have to do it all online like the other company wanted to do.

As someone who emphasizes doing the booking online, I have two things to say:

1) Congrats on your salesmanship
2) Ouch! (I'd love to pull money like that)

That said, there are some valid points in this discussion. I too, do face-to-face meetings if requested by the prospect. I also have a 100% kill rate (past year) after meeting with the prospect in person. That said, there's still only a measure of validity to the argument that F2F equals more money. In my area, based on my own experiences, a large portion of the brides do NOT want a F2F. I regularly hear brides tell me they really like that they can do everything online. It's a great convenience factor for many of them. For those who want the personal touch, I do offer meetings and yes, there is a certain percentage that appreciate that aspect of the transaction. High-touch does often mean up-sell, just like this morning's phone call. A new planner in town with a client in January. She said they had ugly rafters to contend with and were asking if I did drapery or could string lights. I spent about 15 minutes on the phone and found what they were after; hiding the rafters. I pitched that it was better to use wall lighting and colors to pull eyes down, away from the rafters. I'd agreed to do a meeting with her and the bride but this afternoon I just got an email, saying the bride was sending money over to book me; no meeting necessary to close the deal. $1,100 for a January date.

As several said here the F2F does have its advantages, provided you're a good salesman who can take advantage of that situation. Sometimes, it will result in markedly improved prices. My personal gut reaction, you're losing 5-7 gigs to every 1 you booked using the "personal touch only" approach. No, not based on percentage of closings, based on the number of leads that will develop from quoting to closing phase.

Let's say you have 50 leads generated. You contact all 50, either email or phone, and ask for a meeting. I'm going to guess (not scientific, just gut reaction) that you'll get maybe 5 meetings. Let's pretend you land 3 of them at $1,500. Gross revs=$4,500. You figure how much time you'll have tied up in meetings.

Let's take 50 leads that I get in. All 50 will (most likely) receive and entertain my email quote. Of those, I'll get inquiries from about one-third (17) with about half of those booking; 7 @ $750 each (no uplighting) and 2 @ $1100 each (uplighting). $5,250 + $2,200 = $7,450 gross revs. These ARE hard booking stats, by the way.

Now if you're sitting in a large market with tons of leads and perhaps a lot of high-dollar prospects to be mined, that F2F approach might pay off. If you're in a smaller area, my guess is you'll have a lot of snow on the books (open dates). Both approaches have merit and I do thank you for raising the discussion. While my day job makes the hands-off approach the biz model I need to focus on, the discussion here does prod me towards getting on the phone and maybe even asking for more F2F time.
 
I too have found that the success rate of my wedding events have improved because I meet with the prospects/clients beforehand in person. You get to know them better & you can get a feel at that meeting if you really want that gig or not.

These days, I will not take the wedding event if I cannot sit down & meet with them first. If there are any red flags, you will discover them at the initial meeting, rather than find out after you have signed the contracts/or at the event. (Bridezilla)

I actually declined a wedding last month after meeting with the bride & her dad. I realized I was not the right DJ for their event. These people were trouble. I wound up booking a better client 4 days later for that same date.

Plus I can command (and get) more money for the event. You get what you pay for.
If they want to hire a guy that they won't see until the day of, there are plenty of $500 DJs around.
Last week, I did a $1,850 reception....yes we met several times before the event.

I know some guys dislike Peter, but he is on the ball with this advice.
 
If they want to hire a guy that they won't see until the day of, there are plenty of $500 DJs around.
Last week, I did a $1,850 reception....yes we met several times before the event.

You see, that's simply not true. You're generalizing based on hearsay.

I am not usually a $500 DJ, but if some couple called me about having their wedding at the local VFW on a small budget, you can bet that they will get my "A" game just like the rest.

Why is it necessary to be hurtful while being prideful?