Dry Ice Fog

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DJ J Mac

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So, Ducky and I got back from a meeting where the Bride and her mom mentioned that it would be really cool if there was some way to do fog for part of the dancing. We told her that most venues don't allow fog at all because of the fire alarm systems. Then Ducky and I got to thinking that for the low lying fog effect they wanted dry ice could do the trick.

So my question is does anyone know of any dry ice type fog machines? I've once tried the ADJ Mister Kool and we'll just say that one has made it's way to the landfill a long time ago.
 
I see you tried the mister kool and did not like it mine works well.
 
To make it worth it you need to charge 200.00
I do have one wedding in June with the dry ice effect. Will use the lemaitre. Probably will add some led light effect as well from the floor, still thinking how to add a new twist....:sqembarrassed:
 
Make yourself a cooker and use real dry ice for the effect, a little expensive but it is the real thing!

A 30 gallon or 55 gallon drum, high speed Fan, gates, flexible plastic pipe hot water heater coils and thermostat, preforated steel shelf with chains to raise and lower it, 30 pounds of dry ice will last you about 2 hours 5 if you use it sparingly!
 
DJ J Mac said:
So, Ducky and I got back from a meeting where the Bride and her mom mentioned that it would be really cool if there was some way to do fog for part of the dancing. We told her that most venues don't allow fog at all because of the fire alarm systems. Then Ducky and I got to thinking that for the low lying fog effect they wanted dry ice could do the trick.

So my question is does anyone know of any dry ice type fog machines? I've once tried the ADJ Mister Kool and we'll just say that one has made it's way to the landfill a long time ago.
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Have you called and asked that particular venue if they do allow the use of fog machines? My suggestion is that you let the Client call and if it is allowed that you confirm it with the venue. They will quicker make accommodations for the client rather than for you. If its a go charge accordingly or throw it in for free if thats what you want to do.:sqwink:
 
drzinc said:
I see you tried the mister kool and did not like it mine works well.
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I've been experimenting with dry ice. I'd love to see what you're doing with it.

What I tried was a 5 gallon bucket, enclosed, with a 2" wet/dry vac hose to direct the fog. Even with using compressed air, it still didn't push enough volume (guessing here) to cover a dance floor. I'm guessing it'd take 2 of these units. Even then, I noticed a lot of condensation in the area where the fog comes out of the hose so I'm guessing you'd have to mop the floor with towels before allowing general dancing (I was shooting for doing this effect only for first dances).

My best guess on costs is that you're talking $50 in dry ice, PER EVENT.
 
ahoustondj said:
Have you called and asked that particular venue if they do allow the use of fog machines? My suggestion is that you let the Client call and if it is allowed that you confirm it with the venue. They will quicker make accommodations for the client rather than for you. If its a go charge accordingly or throw it in for free if thats what you want to do.:sqwink:
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I agree, we're going to do some extensive research around our local venues to see if this would even fly with them or not before we go investing too much time into this idea.
 
For a heating element look at the ones for livestock watering tanks, some of them have a protector on them so they won't melt the plastic by touching it. Just have to bypass the thermostat.
 
In the other dry ice thread, NLFX Pro mentioned the Elation Antari DNG-200. I'm having trouble finding any specs in the U.S. for this machine. Does anybody know if there is anyone in the U.S. who distributes it? We have questions.
 
rickryan.com said:
I've been experimenting with dry ice. I'd love to see what you're doing with it.

What I tried was a 5 gallon bucket, enclosed, with a 2" wet/dry vac hose to direct the fog. Even with using compressed air, it still didn't push enough volume (guessing here) to cover a dance floor. I'm guessing it'd take 2 of these units. Even then, I noticed a lot of condensation in the area where the fog comes out of the hose so I'm guessing you'd have to mop the floor with towels before allowing general dancing (I was shooting for doing this effect only for first dances).

My best guess on costs is that you're talking $50 in dry ice, PER EVENT.
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Ricky,

The one we had years ago was a 55 gallon drum with two four inch flexible pipes coming out of it with a 15,000 CFM cage fan pumping the air. With 50 pound block of DI dropped in 2 inches deep and the water heated to 150 degrees you could put a foot of fog on the dance floor (flowing off the stage) in less than 3 minutes!

The key to a good looking effect was dropping the block and waiting for the fog to start boiling out of the pipes good and heavy before turning on the fan.
 
DJ Ducky said:
In the other dry ice thread, NLFX Pro mentioned the Elation Antari DNG-200. I'm having trouble finding any specs in the U.S. for this machine. Does anybody know if there is anyone in the U.S. who distributes it? We have questions.
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We distribute it. ;) What questions do you have. Another machine to consider is the Antari ICE machine. That is probably our best seller for low lying fog.

Ben
 
NLFX Pro said:
We distribute it. ;) What questions do you have. Another machine to consider is the Antari ICE machine. That is probably our best seller for low lying fog.

Ben
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Fortunately, we have time because the wedding isn't until September. We're still trying to figure out if we want to go down this road and have this as a potential add-on.

As for questions....

How much does the DNG-200 cost?
How much does the fluid for it cost?
Is it a noisy machine?
I saw that there is also the Antari Ice 101 (the one that you referred to?), but it works only with ice whereas the DNG-200 only needs fog fluid. Which machine would you recommend?
How much does the Ice 101 cost?
How much does the fluid for the Ice 101 cost?


That's all I have for now. I decided that posting this in the thread might make this thread more useful to folks who are searching. :)
 
Answers posted behind the question.

DJ Ducky said:
Fortunately, we have time because the wedding isn't until September. We're still trying to figure out if we want to go down this road and have this as a potential add-on.

As for questions....

How much does the DNG-200 cost? (I can only post MAP, which is $7,999.99)
How much does the fluid for it cost? (that varies, but roughly $15 - $20 a gallon)
Is it a noisy machine? (as compared to what?)
I saw that there is also the Antari Ice 101 (the one that you referred to?), but it works only with ice whereas the DNG-200 only needs fog fluid. Which machine would you recommend? (I recommend the ICE. It is much more cost effective, lighter, and a very good effect for the dollar)
How much does the Ice 101 cost? (Again, I can only post MAP which is $749.99)
How much does the fluid for the Ice 101 cost? (Same as the DNG200)


That's all I have for now. I decided that posting this in the thread might make this thread more useful to folks who are searching. :)
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NLFX Pro said:
Answers posted behind the question.
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Thanks for the information. The noise question was just about whether it would be heard over the music. I think the ICE is more what we would be looking at, but we really need to figure out if it will be worth it to have this effect on-hand. I think it's a cool effect; I'm just not sure if it's marketable in our area. Thanks again for the information. :)
 
I know this doesn't tell you in dbs but here is Elation's description:

"With built-in low-noise fan system which can spread the dense cloud of low-lying fog evenly with proper distance; Certainly an impressive effect for theatrical and studio applications where noise level should be minimized."
 
DJ Ducky said:
Thanks for the information. The noise question was just about whether it would be heard over the music. I think the ICE is more what we would be looking at, but we really need to figure out if it will be worth it to have this effect on-hand. I think it's a cool effect; I'm just not sure if it's marketable in our area. Thanks again for the information. :)
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Can you rent one from a production company or even Purdue's drama department?
 
Thunder said:
Ricky,

The one we had years ago was a 55 gallon drum with two four inch flexible pipes coming out of it with a 15,000 CFM cage fan pumping the air. With 50 pound block of DI dropped in 2 inches deep and the water heated to 150 degrees you could put a foot of fog on the dance floor (flowing off the stage) in less than 3 minutes!

The key to a good looking effect was dropping the block and waiting for the fog to start boiling out of the pipes good and heavy before turning on the fan.
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Lemme see, where can I fit that 55 gallon drum in what's left out of my 4X6 trailer? hmmmmmmm :sqlaugh:
 
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