WWYD - First offer is 10% of the till

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Ruben Mora

DJ/Comdian
Dec 10, 2006
3,375
60
Sacramento, CA
I was offered 10% of the alcohol receipts for the night for DJing an old school school night. The old school party will be on Sundays from 930 to 130.

Any thoughts on this offer?
 
I guess it would depend on several things.
1. Do you normally work on Sundays.
2. What is the average take before you started?
3. Would you get a minimum salary, say 100 min or 10% which ever is greater?

Could be a good deal if it is a really busy venue, otrherwise not worth the time.
 
I do tab bill bookings with a lot of my bands, and they always are happy with it. Most of the time, they come out with more than they would a regular door deal.

However, like was mentioned before, it would depend on what your regular rate is.
 
Well, if you look at it like "even if I make $100.00, its a $100.00 more than I had when I came thru the door", then all is well....if you have a set minimum that you won't roll a wheel for, then its an obvious crap shoot. Me?...I'd give it a go; once anyway.

Back when I was playing in bands, I was with a country group that got an offer to "split the door" for a New Years party at a large bottle club....we all talked it over and figured "sure, why not?"....no kidding, I took home $7.00 for the evening....LMAO.

Tough call Ruben....if Sundays are usually quiet for you anyway, give it a whirl.
 
I was offered 10% of the alcohol receipts for the night for DJing an old school school night. The old school party will be on Sundays from 930 to 130.

Any thoughts on this offer?
i dont say in 4 hrs a lot of drinks cant be consumed but it also depends on the crowd.it can be a hit or miss here.
 
To get an estimate of what you might make Multiply the capacity/expected crowd (Be conservative) X Average Spending per person X 10% and you will have an average of what you will receive.

Lets supposed the Capacity/attendance is 200 people
Spending is $30.00 per person

You will expect to get about 200 x $30.00 X 10% = $600.00
 
It does not sound like it's too bad of a deal.

Are Sunday's nights busy at the location? Many people will have to go to work Monday morning.

Who will keep an actual eye on the receipts?

I would ask for some money plus a peace of the bar action.
 
Sunday is not a problem with me. Don't book gigs on Sunday nights.

They don't have any type of entertainment on Sundays. The room is pretty small. I'm guessing it can hold about 60+ people. This place has been know as a "swingers" bar.

I'm thinking of wearing a thong now.

I'll keep you posted on the outcome and thanks Madness, Patrick, Barry, CMWAT, Houston, and John.
 
Sunday is not a problem with me. Don't book gigs on Sunday nights.

They don't have any type of entertainment on Sundays. The room is pretty small. I'm guessing it can hold about 60+ people. This place has been know as a "swingers" bar.

I'm thinking of wearing a thong now.

I'll keep you posted on the outcome and thanks Madness, Patrick, Barry, CMWAT, Houston, and John.

If you gonna do the Gig let me know. I will send you a list of songs to play that will guarantee that you get hired again. I did two Lifestyle/Swingers Club for 8 years 4 years each. The Last one was at a Clothing Optional Resort.

I have a Raunchy Folder eg.
Strokin (Extended Version) by Clarence Carter
P Control by Prince
My Baby Don't Wear No Panties by Gene Kelton
Its HardTo Say I love You While You're sitting On my Face by Kip Attaway
Camel Toe by Skunkweed
And lots more
 
... The room is pretty small. I'm guessing it can hold about 60+ people.

So you're looking at 60 people each spending an average of $25 X .10 or roughly $150 for 4 hours on a night you're not doing anything anyway.

(Just guessing this place may not attract high rollers so I pulled the $25 pp out of my butt)

Do you trust the owners to give you an honest count of the till?
 
I agree with Madness, ask for a mininum, and you get whichever is greater: your minimum, or the 10%.
 
So you're looking at 60 people each spending an average of $25 X .10 or roughly $150 for 4 hours on a night you're not doing anything anyway.

(Just guessing this place may not attract high rollers so I pulled the $25 pp out of my butt)

Do you trust the owners to give you an honest count of the till?

If its Swingers/Lifestylers, they are High Rollers!:sqwink:
 
I may be completely out of touch here so forgive me, please. :)

Back in the early '90s, bar bands were on the road and everyone was line dancing (and the cops weren't putting the bars out of business with DUI checkpoints) and people could still smoke at a dance.

The bands were getting 50% of the door or 50% of drinks, band's choice.

Perhaps things have changed. Perhaps it's different for a Sunday night. But ten cents on the dollar for fewer than 80 patrons seems poor. Especially so when people don't drink like they once did.

Thoughts?
 
Getting In The Door

Well at least he is getting his foot in the door. If it works out in his favor fine. If he feels like he did a good job and he should get more then he can renegotiate. By that time they would have experienced his performance.
Also remember its a Sunday so he is not forsaking another gig for this one. If he hardballs now, they may just look for a bottom feeder.
 
Those Were The Days.

I may be completely out of touch here so forgive me, please. :)

Back in the early '90s, bar bands were on the road and everyone was line dancing (and the cops weren't putting the bars out of business with DUI checkpoints) and people could still smoke at a dance.

The bands were getting 50% of the door or 50% of drinks, band's choice.

Perhaps things have changed. Perhaps it's different for a Sunday night. But ten cents on the dollar for fewer than 80 patrons seems poor. Especially so when people don't drink like they once did.

Thoughts?
Fred,
Times change! LOL :sqbiggrin:
YouTube - Mary Hopkin Those were the days
 
If you're usually not booked Sunday nights, jump at it. Most times you may not make much but 1 or 2 referrals can sure make it worth your time. I did a Friday night gig for a piece of the bar tab, 20% I think. I ended up pocketing $350 but I ended up with two weddings from bar patrons that were there that night. That one night actually netted me over $1500 considering I now had work for three nights I previously didn't.

young...
 
Tips Count Too!

Don't forget tips count too. Those kind of people are great tippers. Get some interactive music on and a game or two and you'll have the crowd going. Make sure and do a Ladies Only Dance and play (For that Dance) "P-Control" by Prince or "Crazy Bitch" by Buck Cherry or "Bitch" by Meridith Brooks
 
If you think "long term",,, let's say you make $200.00 a night... that's $800.00 a month or $7600.00 a year, or so depending on every Sunday night.....
 
I'm with Houston -- I've made tons on tips :)

I think people are more apt to tip better these days, then they were years ago -- so, I would think you could walk out with some cash, if they have a decent crowd...


I worked a couple small bars on the off days up here, and there very few tips at first. After getting to know the regular crowd though, and playing what they wanted -- the tips started rolling in :)

After a while, I started getting beers left and right, and a few hundred bucks in the tip jar each night ;)

Very lucrative, if the crowd is into you (and you take the time to learn them).