While America wasn't looking

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I believe what this guy says. Scairy stuff too.

While the useless media has us all focused on Britney, OJ, Paris Hilton, and a whole host of other stuff that has no bearing on the quality of our lives, things are happening that no one in main stream media likes to report on. Things like this are happening.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash9pb.htm

I do believe that unless we quit bickering over morality and lesser issues like stem cells, abortion, gay rights, and start paying attention to things that truly do affect us as a nation, that Patrick Buchanan's predictions will play out.

Some people in power want this to happen and don't really care about the continuance of America. (you know, the one you all sing about at patriotic events)
If we do allow this to happen, we deserve what we get.

http://www.buchanan.org/blog/
 
They Intentionally and illegally kept Buchanan out of office 10 or so yrs ago. I said it all along had he been voted in 911 wouldnt have happened. Now he is shouting at the top of his lungs and again folks have their Ears plugged with garbage, ignorance, Apathy, because of an arrogance which oozes with spoiled its not really their attitudes.
 
You see, the dumb masses in the US have figured out that they can rest and just hold out their hands for the government to provide for all their needs. Meanwhile, our corrupt professional politicians give our country away to third-world aliens because of Political Correctness. Buchanan has been sounding the alarm for quite a few years now, and the dumb masses just sit there with their thumbs up their asses, waiting for their next handout.
 
Meanwhile, our corrupt professional politicians give our country away to third-world aliens because of Political Correctness.
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That sounds nice, but the real problem is you, me and all of our neighbors.

Take a look around at who's mowing the lawns in your neigborhood, fixing the roofs, and standing at the majority of retail cash registers.

Amercans want cheap labor, a permanent under-class to support both their middle-class lifestyles and upper-class status.

Solve American gross materialism and you'll solve alot of it's problems.
 
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That sounds nice, but the real problem is you, me and all of our neighbors.

Take a look around at who's mowing the lawns in your neigborhood, fixing the roofs, and standing at the majority of retail cash registers.

Amercans want cheap labor, a permanent under-class to support both their middle-class lifestyles and upper-class status.

Solve American gross materialism and you'll solve alot of it's problems.
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I mow my own lawn, use the self service check out, and when I had my roof replaced 2 years ago, it was done by some Polish guys that make $20 an hour.
 
...when I had my roof replaced 2 years ago, it was done by some Polish guys that make $20 an hour.
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PING ! - and if I had fixed your roof I would have charged you $50 /hr.
 
... yer anonymous, so nobody can hire what doesn't exist
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How is it you can have over 3,000 posts but never heard of Google?

The fact is, you want a good price on your roof - so you don't care if all the workers are documneted.

You don't want to pay what it would cost to have a middle class family man pounding nails on your roof. - So is it any wonder that Brides don't care about the high expenses of middle-aged mobile DJs?

Are you just mean? No. You want cheap because you also want HD television, premium cable, text messaging with video, and mobile internet access.

Doesn't it strike you as odd that people will line up to buy a sports tickets for $1,500 - yet bitch at the auto-mechanic who charges them $600 to fix the brakes on their car?
 
Proformance said:
Google?

The fact is, you want a good price on your roof - so you don't care if all the workers are documneted.

You don't want to pay what it would cost to have a middle class family man pounding nails on your roof. - So is it any wonder that Brides don't care about the high expenses of middle-aged mobile DJs?
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Actually it is the responsibility of the roofing company I hired to manage the documented status of their employees. I know that I hired a legitimate company. My responsibility ends there.
Also, I didn't say they were undocumented, I just said they were Polish.
 
What it means to be poor in America:

Food for thought.

How many of you saw the recent and touching story on Extreme Make-Over Home Edition regarding the family from Camden NJ?

During the initial interview which took place in the Hell-hole home they were originally living in - did anyone notice the 25" television and cable box in the corner? (and no, I can't say they actaullay worked)

I'm not questioning the dire needs of the family, but it does represent a certain truth about America: that many people pay the cable bill first - and then buy groceries.

It's from that set of priorities we develop our denial and dependency on illegal immigration.
 
Actually it is the responsibility of the roofing company I hired to manage the documented status of their employees.
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Of course it is. We all pass the buck to the next guy - and then complain when he passes it again. "The government" is you and me, friend.
 
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Of course it is. We all pass the buck to the next guy - and then complain when he passes it again. "The government" is you and me, friend.
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We have in place, a process that employers are required to go through in order to hire people and document their SSN's. We also have agencies that are charged with the responsibilities of keeping them honest so that Joe citizen doesn't have to.
By virtue of paying my taxes and voting, I have done my part to see to it that the employer does his.
If that process is breaking down, we need to boot out our government officials that aren't doing their jobs and enforcing the laws.

I don't see myself going out onto my roof and demanding proof of residence because these guys have an accent.
 
We have in place, a process that employers are required to go through in order to hire people and document their SSN's. We also have agencies that are charged with the responsibilities of keeping them honest so that Joe citizen doesn't have to.
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Doesn't have to what?

Isn't it you Joe Citizen that is supposed to keep honest the agency you charged with keeping the contractor honest?

If you're not engaged with these agencies why would you expect the agency to be engaged with the contractors?

Government action (or lack thereof) is a direct and measurable reflection of citizen priority.

These "agencies" and your "government" are made up of your neighbors and other people that surround you in your community. It's not them and they, it's you and me.

The farther you remove yourself from the government the less you should expect in the way of performance.
 
Nice electoral factoids Tom!

If anything, it demonstrates why the electoral vote is so much more critical to a fair and lasting democracy than is the popular vote.

It's still amazing how forward thinking the founding fathers were when they developed the framework for our government and constitution.
 
How is it you can have over 3,000 posts but never heard of Google?
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Too busy fixing my roof.


Are you just mean? No. You want cheap because you also want HD television, premium cable, text messaging with video, and mobile internet access.
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Don't have any of the above.


The farther you remove yourself from the government the less you should expect in the way of performance.
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It's still amazing how forward thinking the founding fathers were when they developed the framework for our government and constitution.
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Can't say I disagree with ya there.


Problem I see, is our gov't proxies, seem intent on passing new legislation to get re-elected, instead of enforcing what is already there.

What has happened to our country (IMHO), is that it was a great idea to start with. But, it has been corrupted over the years, by those taking handouts, and those with too much money for their own good. Same as any form of government.

Our laws are nothing like the original plans laid forth. They have been nitpicked to death, and have grown to gargantuan proportions.


I personally think another tea party is in order...
 
Issues in Canada atleast here in BC include a citizens vote to host or not host the Winter Olympics 2010. The first vote it was heavily voted down. The Gov decided to hold another vote and got denied then finally three strikes it was voted again and accepted. Similar situation. The vote to cancel a public transportation skytrain voted in for coverage into the tri cities is canceled and a vot to route the train to the Airport was voted down twice and finally passed the third time. (Gee it facilitated the needs for transportation to gain the Olympic Committees decision to have the Olympics here in 2010.) Several more votes to facilitate the Olympics gained similar results.
 
Proformance said:
Nice electoral factoids Tom!

If anything, it demonstrates why the electoral vote is so much more critical to a fair and lasting democracy than is the popular vote.

It's still amazing how forward thinking the founding fathers were when they developed the framework for our government and constitution.
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So how did Dubya retain the office when it was found that he lost the election a few months after he assumed office? Both sides of THAT voting process were equally corrupted by the dueling camps. Either way, when it was found that Bush lost ( if you don't know this please do your own research- that way you won't have to waste thread time), it was never publicly announced and he stayed in office.

Although I DO vote, I no longer vote for individuals, but laws or bond issues, or things that will or will not happen- no gray areas.
 
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