My point was Taso doesn't come on here looking to put others down to big up himself. Proformance/Bob does this regularly.
What year do you believe will be your last year as a DJ working events?
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Which again, has nothing to do with Taso. If this was your aim, there was no point in even writing the first paragraph. You could have solved 2 days of confusion with your post by saying only this (your original post with everything else removed).
It also helps to specify who you're talking about - in paragraph 1, you specify Bob Carpenter - how was the reader supposed to know you meant some other Bob in paragraph 2?
I do like MoCA Cappuccinos at Starbucks ..
I don't think it's anyone's business what your dad chooses to do, at any age.
As to being physical, yeah - the world is full of people who can't keep up. This is not a compelling reason for me to slow down.
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I chose 2030.
I will be 67, I will have worked at the school long enough to get my full pension,
and I'm sure by that time I will be old and grumpy,
and not want to deal with those young whippersnappers anymore!
I will be 67, I will have worked at the school long enough to get my full pension,
and I'm sure by that time I will be old and grumpy,
and not want to deal with those young whippersnappers anymore!
Itigger others on here don't do what Proformance does regularly and that is put others down to make himself look superior. It doesn't mean he is, it just means when he does that he's a PITA.
with this virus situation that started in march of 2020 or maybe before that how are most of us going to survive. Here in NY bars were closed until just recently and now its only to 10 pm so no work there party's are out graduations, Christmas party, weddings, most all types of events are shut down. I do a lot of car shows last year in 2020 at the end of January i had 19 events to do by May and June they all got cancelled. At the end of February in 2020 i spent about 10k getting ready for the car show season which went right down the drain and nothing i could do about it. Most of us have really not done a event since early 2020 How long can you hold on before you got to call it quits
The short answer is that 90% of DJs are part time, and if their primary employment remains intact they can proceed indefinitely without any meaningful impact.
For full time people with no other source of income the prospects are much grimmer and the problem much larger than simply 'no gig.' The shutdown impacts the entirety of the event industry - from concert and theater halls to catering and your local VFW. It's a near complete and wide ranging economic crash across a whole range of professions singled out because their very nature is about bringing large groups of people together. "Unity" is the event business - and everything being done in the name of unity is antithetical to our roles.
Consider for example, that 27% of restaurants in my state have closed for good. That figure does not include venues that have remained closed but not yet announced it to be permanent. Many of these venues are also wedding and event destinations - places that make a DJ business possible. Restaurant closures are a good indicator of impact on the event business because they encompass so many aspects of hospitality - food & beverage, disposable incomes, people's ability and willingness to entertain
Hotel an ballroom facilities: I recently delivered some light rigging to a major downtown hotel ballroom. The room's capacity is 1,100 people. It was presently being set for a Bat Mitzvah within a then state limit of 15 people in attendance, and a live zoom feed. What percentage of the population should we expect willing or able to spend $20K-$30K on a live gathering of just 15 people? There are not enough Gavin Newsom's to sustain an entire hospitality industry.
Unfortunately, if heaven itself shined upon us tomorrow, the economic disparity in this sector may well take a decade to recover from. Yes, DJs will recover much faster than set-designers, but technology will also have changed the expectation, roles, and demand. The notions of how to celebrate will be different on the other side of this.
On top of that - our consumer economy is not healthy. It is presently held together with a few pins and scotch tape. A year long moratorium on private bank foreclosures and tenant evictions is masking the depth of our economic woes. Don't worry though - there is no moratorium on local or state governments seizing property for overdue taxes or water bills. That business is in full perverted swing and we have entered the age of "deed flipping." If you own a home check the status of your deed at least 4 times a year to be sure your city or town has not executed one of these quit-claim deed seizures. These tax takings step in front of all other liens - meaning you lose all equity in the home, and so does you mortgage lender.
Deed flipping is a very lucrative process for cities and towns because they bundle the deeds into securities and sell them to investors who foreclose on the property. The city receves on averge $50 to every $1 or liability owed in this process, so it has become one of the fastest growing municipal finance schemes running. Imagine losing your $350,000 home for just $400 in unpaid water bills (and still on the hook for the mortgage debt. Yes - this is a real example.) The elderly living in homes with no mortgage are particularly ripe targets for this because they are prone to missing a bill or notice. It may take as little as 60 days for this process to happen.
In the $400 water bill example - they were able to redeem their property within the 1-year period provided by law after paying the full costs to whoever purchased the rights to foreclose, which the town had sold for $30k. After legal expenses they got their deed back for a total cost of about $50K
This is the real economic and government climate that lurks just below the service - the stories that never make it onto the evening news. The preoccupation with Trump is mostly about keeping your eye off the ball. It's not the winter that is going to be dark and cold - it's the summer and fall that will bring a blistering burn as the cover slips off reality.
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yes i know in January 2020 who would of though this was going to happen I Didn't. The guys and girls who are part time they do it mostly because they love music and to entertain but for the one who do this for a full time business its got to hurt big time, how do pay for the mortgage, light bill, heating bill, groceries car the list goes on and on it makes my head spin and it looks like deja vu all over again ( this is No ordinary ride so kiss your ass goodbye )
I noticed that too. Maybe Red will let us know what other than DJ service he was putting into these gigs, or if he was perhaps buying back into the business after having previously divested his former resources.
I too, have put about $65K back in during this period - mostly to expand my technical capacity. The majority of the client's I've lost were annually spending from $5,000 to $25,000 with me. The attraction was that even at those prices I was able to save them money by deploying legacy solutions. I reached the limit of that ability and have to upgrade a lot of things If I expect to remain relevant when event business does recover. I don't yet know if or how many of those clients will return to doing the kind of events they did previously. I may be faced with developing an entirely new client base.
For me, a lot of that expense is offset by sale of older asserts and the remainder with 0% financing that pushes the payments 4 years into the future. Hence, I can start making money with the gear well before I have to pay for it.
Disc Jockeys also face another reality in recovery. EVERYONE in this business including large production facilities have been forced to scale their offerings to fit the very small demands under the lock downs. That new scalability is not going to disappear and the average disc jockey may find his services competing with or even displaced by new capability from very large major production houses and AV providers. A lot of what's currently being done in these circumstances is not temporary. It could well shape the future of how people stage and execute events.
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being retired i needed something to do. First the car show's keep me quite busy and last year i started building trophies so in January i got a big order in for trophy supplies, redid my dj trailer, got a generator to do outdoor events plus all the materials to make the trophy's ( i call them awards not trophy's ) all in all a quick guess about 8k not 10. No matter what price to me its a LOT of money thinking i would get back a large portion of it and each year after make more.
These are just a few i have done and painting and redoing my trailer
These are just a few i have done and painting and redoing my trailer
Did you build these trophies for an order that was later cancelled, or were you speculating on their potential for future sale?
I work with some folks who do this on a grander scale (centerpieces, decor, theme sets, and furniture) but items are produced to order and rented (not sold). Only the custom graphics portion of a project is something the customer may keep, assuming it is not affixed to some other super-structure and can be removed intact..
I realize trophies are a give-away item, but I think building only samples would be the best until an actual order is in place. Get pictures of these samples onto a website, Flickr, and Pinterest, etc. to develop interest and new leads. You may even be able to convert these trophy designs into novelty items or centerpieces that could sell online even in the worst of shut-down conditions.
I work with some folks who do this on a grander scale (centerpieces, decor, theme sets, and furniture) but items are produced to order and rented (not sold). Only the custom graphics portion of a project is something the customer may keep, assuming it is not affixed to some other super-structure and can be removed intact..
I realize trophies are a give-away item, but I think building only samples would be the best until an actual order is in place. Get pictures of these samples onto a website, Flickr, and Pinterest, etc. to develop interest and new leads. You may even be able to convert these trophy designs into novelty items or centerpieces that could sell online even in the worst of shut-down conditions.
the best amp is made by QSC in which i use and i do have a a RCF set up Evox 8 very nice easy to move around. I still have the big stuff but dont use anymore But JBL is the only way to go
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I'd get rid of those equipment logos - they will not generate any revenue.
The back of that trailer is prime advertising space - right now it says nothing about:
- your ability to make custom trophies and award products
- what kind of entertainment you provide
- how to contact you (phone number)
- your service area
Anyone who is driving BEHIND you has plenty of time to read the back panels in the entirety. They even have time to write down your contact information or snap a photo with their phone. If you want to include some other company logo - make it Mastercard or Visa - not JBL and QSC.
Proformance, yes i built all that you see. When someone talks to me about a car event i tell them that i also do awards if they say yes and how many i build them. Each one is different something you can Not buy at the trophy shop. I tell people i have bought trophy's for 15 years so i know what they cost, the ones i build i tell people theses will cost more than a trophy shop cause they one one of a kind custom built. If they say yes i build them if they say no i move on to the next show
thank you for the input but the back of my trailer has got my website listed and if you go there it has my email and phone number plus it also show's that i do not use cheap equipment