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If you rent it, you don't need a CDL endorsement. If you own it or are driving it as a condition of your employment, you need the CDL. You've gotta cross the scales with it too.

DE classifies anything that isn't a passenger car as a commercial vehicle. An SUV or minivan is tagged with CL or PC (commercial) plates. I believe the CDL endorsement requirement here applies to cargo vehicles that are rated at 2 tons GVW or more.

That's DelDOT for you. Everything is different in Delaware. :rolleyes:
 
MBM said:
Fullsize van, well very fullsized, extended Chevy G-3500 extended cargo van.
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Do they sell the tires separate? LOL jes kiddin'. Thats a nice van, just put some signage on it and yer ready to go!
 
Garret214 said:
Steve,

Have you heard a Yorkville U15p????

Or the ucs1 subs???

They sound awesome!!! I think you should listen to a Yorkie Unity system, before saying Yorkville sounds like poop. Just my two cents!

I'll be the first one to tell you that you need a good crossover for the LS 800 series subs. They need a very steep roll off @ 100hz. If not they can sound muddy. I get very good sound from my LS 808 subs. I use a driverack 260 to tune them, a bridged Peavey CS 3000 to power them and I get killer bass.
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Garret,
One must remember that Steve runs a large, Properly powered JBL
SRX rig.

Those are some sweet sounding boxes he has....
If he says the 808 sounds like poo....I believe him.

And bass can be a funny thing....some people like boomy mid-bass...
Some like LOW 50hz and below bass.......
 
Precisionpower said:
Garret,
One must remember that Steve runs a large, Properly powered JBL
SRX rig.

Those are some sweet sounding boxes he has....
If he says the 808 sounds like poo....I believe him.

And bass can be a funny thing....some people like boomy mid-bass...
Some like LOW 50hz and below bass.......
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I use the LS 808s because they proform well outdoors. They are rear horn loaded cabs and have a long throw. I get most of my bookings during the summer and almost all are outdoor events. I have never heard a sub that compairs for the same amount of money. Before I bought the Yorkies, I did listen to the SRX subs and loved their sound. But they didn't hit as hard as the LS 808 at 75 feet FOH. I need a horn loaded cab for outdoor work. Most bass reflex loaded subs don't have the throw I need. For the money the LS 808 is a best buy. They are much better subs out their, but they all cost more money. I got my pair for only $1180.00
 
maestro said:
Garret, strange that you say that about the throw. When I had my passive Yoky subs (same model) I was never impressed with the throw; I found them to have about the same throw as a regular front-loaded cab.
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The first time I heard a 808 it was about 10 years ago. It was outdoors, they were being used for a county band. I really liked how hard they were hitting. I think those ones were using the RCF drivers like the ones you had. I wish Yorkville still used RCF drivers. I would have liked to have bought your old 808s from you, but I didn't know you back then. So, why did you sell your Yorkies and go with a smaller 15 inch sub? Did your 808s have casters on them?
 
Nah, my SW800's (Yup, RCF loaded!) didn't have castors or built-in power and they were friggin' HUGE (and heavy!) so I found I hardly used them. Now with my RCF ART-705AS, it's just soooo easy that I use one pretty much all the time. Sure it doesn't put out like the old Yorky but I have two 705's if I need more output and the sound is much better than the Yorky, very tight, articulate bass.
 
I know a guy that has a pair of the 808 yorkies...

They seem to throw the boomier mid-bass....(could be x-over point)
And the bass is really loud??.....(not sure how to put this into words)

Where my double 18 P.A.S cabs are really "quiet" for subs,
You don't "hear" the bass so much as "feel" the bass, and i hear things rattleing all over the bar, so i know there working......

My P.A.S. are suppose to "provide thunderous bass down to 30hz"
Guess that might explain it :sqlaugh:
 
You rang? :)

It all depends upon how you've got your crossover set up. :)

Front radiating bass bins tend to give you the deep rumble at FOH. Horn-loaded bins have a narrower dispersion footprint ~ they're great for getting the warmth out to the lawn seats in array. They are very efficient with the longer wavelengths.

Depending upon the venue, you can get good, wall-rattling bass from the front radiating 18s and wonder where all your response is going. Try tightening it up a bit by shaving off some of the sub rumble, ie 30 Hz and below. As I understand, the average human ear can't hear much below 30 Hz. And many sub cabinets can't reproduce it anyhow.
 
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