So the latest prediction for the CD is:
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Sorry JT! I have to go against the grain with ya on that one. Vinyl was the best until the CD came out. I.M.O anyway.
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The biggest problem is the producers mucking up the masters with over processing to compensate for people who couldn't carry a tune in a bucket as well as the "make it louder" mentality. The audio quality in general of today's music sucks.
Give me vinyl mastered from the late 70's thru the 80's before the digital demons made their appearance in the audio chains.
Give me vinyl mastered from the late 70's thru the 80's before the digital demons made their appearance in the audio chains.
But that's the process part .. the medium is different. A LP may sound better, but it's not the vinyl doing it.
I disagree somewhat.
You are taking an analog recording, and moving to a digital format with CD. You have to crunch some bits. Yer gonna lose openness and dynamics.
The CD may be "technically" superior, but they don't sound the same as vinyl.
The entire system has to be up to par to hear the difference.
I'll take the vinyl (or tape) any day if given the chance...
To each their "less than CD quality" own ...
I agree there won't be any realistic difference between the 2 .. just like the 320K mp3 vs wav discussion, but a CD does have a theoretical advantage in most cases.
To each their "less than CD quality" own ...
I agree there won't be any realistic difference between the 2 .. just like the 320K mp3 vs wav discussion, but a CD does have a theoretical advantage in most cases.
Hey, it's only about 1500 miles to come and A/B it...
I don't have a kitchen table, but I have a most cool stereo
Hey, it's only about 1500 miles to come and A/B it...
I don't have a kitchen table, but I have a most cool stereo
Steve, don't go! He will feed you to the 'gators! He is going to ask you to go swimming and allow you to get in the water first!
As refers to "modern LP's", keep in mind the whole AAD, ADD or DDD masters of an album. I believe a 'DDD' LP would be the very same as a CD. I'd like to think that most current studio / master Analog is gone nowadays anyways - so does it really matter (LP / CD / digital)
Even if they did the master DDD they record at a much higher sampling rate and then down sampled to fit it on a cd.
I agree - however I doubt most music aficionados would notice the difference - and guests, even worse.
ok Steve M I really love how CDS are produced with mega Bass to cover the fields not filled in when compressing sound to disc. The Plains field is totally different from Vinyl to CD. Sort of like the pixels on old TVs the dots were more detailed and in bigger numbers per screen on a trinitron compared to the Korean cheap brand. (this of course is an archaic comparison but Vinyl has survived the times). If you want the best in sound try out a 4 track, reel to reel or 8 track copy.
Totally agree if we're talking about older music. I don't think you'd notice much difference today.
Try these folks, if you want some good sounding vinyl
http://www.soundstagedirect.com/
The Mobile Fidelity stuff is the best, IMHO. But you need the right gear for it -- those 1200's won't cut it
It's impossible to compare album to album, as many LPs "sound better" than their CD equivalents. Not becasue of some technical superiority of the medium, it's because they had some great engineer make the best of it and you are correct on many CDs, some are engineered like crap.
So, I have a good turntable, and an excellent phono preamp (Creek OBH-18) .. and they wring out the best in the LPs I have, but a properly produced and mastered CD will outdo the same LP, and most likely the 1/4" tape as well.
Given the dynamic range of a CD, there really isn't a whole lot of compression going on, so not sure where that came from. There certainly is issues associated with quantization of high frequencies at the 44.1 KHz standard, but there is also similar issues reading the groove on a LP.
If you like the "sound" of vinyl .. wonderful, it can sound phenomenal .. I just can't agree that is inherently better as was stated and inferred.
I do find interesting the passion some people have for analog audio .. some (not saying you fine folk here) attributing wild, unscientific and sometimes absurd benefits to things that have no basis or relatively little basis in fact or science.
Take power cords. You can find a number of outfits touting the sonic superiority of their little (or big) cable that goes from the wall outlet to the back of the whatever (amp,pre,etc.) as if the 100-200 feet the current traveled through romex getting there or the miles it traveled before that somehow don't matter .. it's that last 6 feet that all these amazing things are going to be had sound wise by swapping out for a $400 power cord.
Take power cords. You can find a number of outfits touting the sonic superiority of their little (or big) cable that goes from the wall outlet to the back of the whatever (amp,pre,etc.) as if the 100-200 feet the current traveled through romex getting there or the miles it traveled before that somehow don't matter .. it's that last 6 feet that all these amazing things are going to be had sound wise by swapping out for a $400 power cord.