Should I warn the BRIDE? (A/C no good in venue)

ahoustondj said:

Rick you are a mess! Smoking Loco Weed again?

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Not yet...

BTW, since we had this conversation, I looked at available website domains, and found that everybody had taken theweddingplanner.com, so I jumped on djweddingplanner.com.

I paid $10, but 3 years from now, somebody will buy it from me for $5000.

I'm pretty handy at certain things, but not others...

SoftJock Rick said:

I'm pretty handy at certain things, but not others...

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That's the little alien in you speaking or some remnants of blood

Mr. K said:

Here's a better answer (than the one I gave before):

If it is worth telling somebody that I care about, then it is worth telling my client.

Oh, man, that's brilliant. Woo-hoo! I'm gonna go and jump up and down for a while!

:dtongue::dlaugh:

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What you need to do is to go and take a nap! A long one! A very long one!

There is plenty of time to get the a/c fixed and what is the chance of it going out again? Whatever you do, I don't see a problem either way, but if I were you, I would buy a turbo fan and bring it with you. Why be uncomfortable.
As far as the venue, they should invest in some floor fans. It's better than nothing.

Air conditioners break down. Sh¡t happens. It's not your business to help the venue lose business.

There are tons of ways that venues can cut corners without clients knowing about it or complaining. The A/C isn't one of them.


Bottom line: Don't say anything unless there is a problem when you're there on 8/8.

DJMC said:

I forgot to mention that someone gave this place a review (on April 28 of this year) citing the bad A/C at this facility.

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Well, that's a different story, but I'm still not sure you should say anything. (Yes, I realize it's too late for that...)

I think Matt is doing the right thing. If the a/c is not serviced he can possibly have equipment problems if the day is really hot. I think the venue will be on top of it way before August anyway.

My Experience..

Last years reception, the place was going through new owners. So this guy decides to save $ on the hottest day 97*. I was told he wil not turn on the AC. People, B&G and myself were pissed...

All of the windows and doors were opened. My 5 hour reception lasted 3. I and others were sweltering..For the first time ever, I asked vocalized my disappointment.

Owner didn't have the balls to come out of his office. Which I was told was AC'd..

I will never go back to the place..I heard not only his wife has sued him for divorce, but she also sold the place, it's in her name!!

AlbanyAMS said:

. . . but she also sold the place, it's in her name!!

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NICE!

Hey All
I think Matt is doing the right thing because in my experience working with Brides and yours, and yours and his and hers and everyones heres what we know.

If the BRIDE has a BAD TIME for any reason she immediately starts laying blame

20 out of 60 show up for the wedding.. its the djs fault
2 year old puts fingers in cake.. djs fault
light bulb burned out in bathroom... djs fault
Aunt Martha cussed out uncle dan and bride had a bad time.. djs fault
Food sucked. djs fault
AC out... djs fault

now you know for demonstrative purposes im going a little overboard but when im not playing on a saturday night and im running ops and checking out one of our typically 8-10 weddings I can go pretty much anytime and see whos going to complain, not neccesarily complain to me but complain.

Matts got such a valid point i dont see why you guys dont see it

If the AC doesnt work people arent going to dance
if they dont dance, it doesnt matter if its 14390201,00000 degrees celsius in there

Point Blank


ITS THE DJS FAULT


so good going to you Matt do what you gotta do



Like Hank says in his tag line the Customers not always right well in this place the venue

I know of a Idiot on another Board that when he has a client he will ask who the other vendors are and then he will check on their Better Business Bureau standing while the client is still there. Is that alright to do? Wouldn't that be the same as what we are talking about as far as the air conditioner status at that venue? Neither of these are the DJs responsibilities!

Doing a BBB search for the bride, without being asked to do so, is going way outside the bounds. You're right for calling that guy an idiot.

It's not the same thing as the A/C issue, for at least two reasons:

A - The bride could have (and SHOULD have), done a BBB search herself.

B - Faulty A/C is not something the DJ went out of his way to discover. It is therefore important info that could be shared with the bride.

I'm still not entirely sure you should have told him. You found out by chance. Isn't it safe to assume it would be fixed by 8/8?

But wait, then you decided to investigate further. Is that going outside the bounds of your domain? I think not.

Surely, just as in Cesar's idiot BBB DJ scenario, the bride should investigate on her own. But only if she had found out about the current A/C problem would she even think to investigate.

Therefore, I do NOT think you stepped out of line to find the April A/C problem and inform the groom.

HOWEVER, all of this is predicated on the assumption that you found out about the April problem before telling the groom. And the assumption that you wouldn't have said anything if you couldn't find a history of problems.

SoftJock Rick said:

Not the DJ's business Jon.

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But it is my mobile entertainmnet company's business. My goal is that my client and their guests have a good time. If they are sweating their whatsis off they will proably go home as happened to Matt's other party.

If they are spending $20 k on that venue for four hours, that's $5 k per hour. If the compressor blows after dinner and people leave the they've just thrown $10 k down the toilet.

I'd give the heads up. Mind you, I don't want them to have anymore stress than necessary but a blown compressor the day of the event could cause even more stress than a heads up will.

DJ Teddy Bear said:

I'm still not entirely sure you should have told him. You found out by chance. Isn't it safe to assume it would be fixed by 8/8?

But wait, then you decided to investigate further. Is that going outside the bounds of your domain? I think not.

Surely, just as in Cesar's idiot BBB DJ scenario, the bride should investigate on her own. But only if she had found out about the current A/C problem would she even think to investigate.

Therefore, I do NOT think you stepped out of line to find the April A/C problem and inform the groom.

HOWEVER, all of this is predicated on the assumption that you found out about the April problem before telling the groom. And the assumption that you wouldn't have said anything if you couldn't find a history of problems.

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I'm almost on the same page as Teddy but herein lies where I disagree, evidently there is patterns with this place. We have a venue that has had AC problems for 2 years and its an ongoing thing and for sure you can bet your bottom dollar I tell the clients if this venue comes up.

I think knowing your venues, and other venues is very important. I think that anything you know that could aide in the bride and groom having a better time should be brought up doesnt that make your WORTH as in GWYW even better?

I mean I dont know how long you've been in the biz but I take it its been a while, so the B&G interviews a newbie who maybe is great on price buts only been in business a year or so and couldnt possibly bring to the table your first hand knowledge of other vendors, photographers, venues etc. I would think knowing this stuff definitely adds worth.

We've got a photographer in town who NEVER tells his clients that he leaves as soon as the last activity on the timeline is over. So if your last activity is bouquet and garter and you do it two hours before the evenings over, then the photographer dips would you not tell the bride I wouldnt do it like tattling but heres what we say when we know we are working with this photographer


"oh XXBride, I wanted to let you know we'll have a digital slr camera on site and since XXXphotographer likes to leave after the last event on your timeline we'll actually be able to capture some of the dancing towards the end we charge xxx for this service"

Sure the photographer gets pissed but it sure beats the bride asking us to page him when we know he dipped out without telling them bye. Sure its sloppy but i dont own the photography business..

Also if anything is going to affect our performance its my place to bring it up ahead of time just like the AC

Had another one, newish venue has excellent fire/sprinkler system and staff that isnt very privy to that. We played there once set off fire alarm and sprinklers next corporate group asks for fog at the same venue said the venue manager said it was fine.. would it not be our place to tell both the venue and the coordinator why this is not "fine"

or should we just go and set the fire alarm,and sprinklers off again

Kyle

Mr. K said:

This is what I would do, and, if anybody gives me the "hey, pal, I would never I mean NEVER do that" treatment, I am just going to ignore you because I've enough of that crap for this month. Next month, maybe...

So, I would call the B&/orG, and say something like, "Hey, thanks again for your play lists and orders for exactly what I am supposed to do on your wedding night, because otherwise I wouldn't have a clue. I just want to give you a heads up about the venue. It's, like, really hot in there--so hot, in fact, that people who were not prepared for it had to leave early; however, if we plan it right, then we can strip down to our shorts and make it a Caribbean festival (as I chuckle)."

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I'm not in the mood to step into this conversation right now, however I will say that Johnny's line in bold is F*ing hilarious!