New Behringer Iron...

C'mon guys get real. You can argue that Behringer amps are good but don't fool yourselves. Most that own them are bedroom DJ's and DJ's that may do 3 events or less per month. If the owners of these amps had to use them on a daily basis for 5 days a week 12 hours a day or just every weekend for 12 hours Fri, Sat and Sun you would change your opinion quickly. They get hot.. I drive my amps hard and these things would fry by the time I am done with it.

You will never see a Behringer amp in a rack in any club. Maybe in a low budget pub but that may be it. I never participate in gear pissing matches but I had to jump in this time. I would be willing to put the sound quality of my PLX 3002 against any Behringer EP amp.

Right on the money - I do 4-6 gigs a month during peak season ( summer).Thats every saturday and some sundays. More than enough. Yeah, Im part time but definitely not a bedroom DJ either. This is my REAL second job. Its better than working retail.
I dont get into these arguments either but also had to jump in.
You mentioned club installs, but we are all mostly mobiles here so I thought that it was implied that we were talking about mobile use. not monday to sunday 24/7. If you are opening a club, you better have the money to pay for a QSC or better anyway.
Most of us are part timers also. So as a part time, non club installed amp, it does its job. Will I match it agains a PLX? Heck no. This is not apples to apples. What about an RMX? Sure, any day.

By the way, maybe slight off topic- All of a sudden, QSC is able to offer a sub $500 amp in the GX that has filtering capabilties and has an internal crossover and no one questions how they can do it so cheaply? So it cant do bridged. So it cant do 2 ohms. But cmon, this is obviously more tech savvy than the RMX yet its cheaper? Just a thought.

True.

The amp will do it's job with minimal use but the the quality stuff that is used in club installs would give us mobile jocks 5 times longer life on the road than the EP.

I also don't see how the RMX amps are even considered in the same league with the EP's. The RMX line is a phenomenal amp for its price range. The RMX may look like the EP but I doubt highly that it performs like an EP.

eezee - I think most of us on this forum agree. What I took real issue with (and I think most others too) was the assertion that ALL amps are made with IDENTICAL compnents on IDENTICAL boards in the SAME factory.

There is no dispute that EP is a dead knock off of RMX. In fact, I've been told that some of the labeling on the circuit board was even copied. QSC felt there was no point defending their (then) cheapest line of amps. Had Behringer knocked off CX or something like that, the fur would have flown. If this thread was EP vs RMX... then it's down to a debate on mfg tolerances, component quality, etc. But to compare EP to anything by Dynacord, or the entire lines from QSC, Crown, Yamaha, Crest, Carvin, Lab Grupen or any other upper end amplifier manufacturer is downright silly and that is what occured earlier in this thread. It was such a patently ignorant statment to assert that the same components and boards were used for Class A/B, Class A, Class D, Class H, Class I and all other architectures or that a SMPS is the same as a torroidal power supply, but that is what would have to be the case for Thunder's statement to be true, and I think THAT is what got so many of us riled up.

Cars are made out of plastic and metal, so are amplifiers with similar general functionality. It's what you DO with the plastic and metal that makes the difference.

Ben

eezee said:

Right on the money - I do 4-6 gigs a month during peak season ( summer).Thats every saturday and some sundays. More than enough. Yeah, Im part time but definitely not a bedroom DJ either. This is my REAL second job. Its better than working retail.
I dont get into these arguments either but also had to jump in.
You mentioned club installs, but we are all mostly mobiles here so I thought that it was implied that we were talking about mobile use. not monday to sunday 24/7. If you are opening a club, you better have the money to pay for a QSC or better anyway.
Most of us are part timers also. So as a part time, non club installed amp, it does its job. Will I match it agains a PLX? Heck no. This is not apples to apples. What about an RMX? Sure, any day.

By the way, maybe slight off topic- All of a sudden, QSC is able to offer a sub $500 amp in the GX that has filtering capabilties and has an internal crossover and no one questions how they can do it so cheaply? So it cant do bridged. So it cant do 2 ohms. But cmon, this is obviously more tech savvy than the RMX yet its cheaper? Just a thought.

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