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rickryan.com said:
Stevan, I know this wasn't your question but if I may offer an observation, this just isn't as cool as an uplit totem. This is just a 2" vertical pipe, nothing pretty or cool about it. Just a thought.
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That is just it, I don't want to draw attention to the stand. Quite often, I deejay at a particular venue where the decorators set up beautiful, very high, white curtains which I uplight using my wireless cans. These 'come alive' later, once the dancing starts and it looks really good! I want to find a way to set my movers in front without affecting the look of the curtains.
 
maestro said:
Do you use a regular tripod or something similar to what I am thinking?

Steve, I like those K&M stands but they are a bit short and hard to add a sock to because of the clamps. Thanks for posting that. :)
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Not sure if there is a taller version, since they use sub poles ... , but if the height worked, Could always do a mini-tripod sock ...

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or buy one in white ..

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maestro said:
Do you use a regular tripod or something similar to what I am thinking?

Steve, I like those K&M stands but they are a bit short and hard to add a sock to because of the clamps. Thanks for posting that. :)
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I'm currently using a regular tripod, looks like this in use:

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@steve149, where did you get that pic from?
That's one of the few speaker stand scrims that I like.
I realize that it's a round base instead of a traditional tripod stand but I've never liked those cheesy looking triangle tripod scrims.
The only hard part about having the centre pole would be finding a way to evenly uplight it.
 
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DJ TJ said:
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@steve149, where did you get that pic from?
That's one of the few speaker stand scrims that I like.
I realize that it's a round base instead of a traditional tripod stand but I've never liked those cheesy looking triangle tripod scrims.
The only hard part about having the centre pole would be finding a way to evenly uplight it.
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I found it in a image search .. here is the company in Germany: 26735

You can probably do something similar with a normal tripod .. need to get a hoop around the base to attach a scrim to to get the round look.
 
Thanks Steve. I just never liked the top to bottom triangle look of most stand covers.

For example, to me this style looks kinda cheesy:

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I also hate the scrims that cover the pole and look like a wrinkled foreskin:

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I like the narrower look, similar to this one I recently found by eternal lighting where it's only wide at the base:
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Granted the width will probably change somewhat based on the height of the stand or maybe they are using velcro somehow to attach to the legs, but the one pictured above looks to be at a good height yet still maintains a somewhat narrower profile than the first picture.
 
If you take a 4x8 sheet of really thin luan and rip a couple of 2" or so strips, you might be able to bend it around the base of a speaker stand (secured with screws or rivets). Run the standard scrim down to it and the bottom should be the round shape. To get it smaller would require a different stand like the K&M stand
 
I know that regular black stands aren't the prettiest thing in the world, but I think DJs tend to go too far in trying to dress them up. A black stand will basically disappear in a dark room, but when you put these skrims on them, they stand out WAY more than a stand ever would have.

In trying to create a unique look, we've ended up highlighting the stands and making them a focal point. Doesn't make sense to me.
 
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Well it should be part of the overall look that you are trying to achieve.
The same applies to facade, ambient and uplighting.
I've never used a stand scrim only because I haven't found one (up until recently) that didn't look cheesy, imo.
It only looks like a focal point if it's the only thing in the room that's lit up or decorated, but if it's only one component of a "look" that you are trying to achieve, and used in conjunction with other ambient lighting, then I don't think it's a focal point.
I don't think there is a right or wrong to the idea of it, only how it's implemented and the overall image it produces.
It's very subjective, just like art.:)
 
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Probably nothing to do with this, but remember, Olympic barbell weight plates have 2" holes in them, you can get them as heavy as you want for stability, and you can usually find used ones dirt cheap.
 
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Albatross said:
I know that regular black stands aren't the prettiest thing in the world, but I think DJs tend to go too far in trying to dress them up. A black stand will basically disappear in a dark room, but when you put these skrims on them, they stand out WAY more than a stand ever would have.

In trying to create a unique look, we've ended up highlighting the stands and making them a focal point. Doesn't make sense to me.
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I agree - that photo of the speakers is an ugly eye-sore.
If those were the tools at my disposal I would have hidden the speakers inside the bushes. They only need to be heard - not seen.

Tripods are are a poor choice to begin with - dressing them only exacerbates the problem.

There are more professional ways of doing this. A 50# base and pipe with a black pole sock is no more aesthetically disruptive than a vintage street lamp in the park. If it has to be in a visible position it should look like something that naturally belongs there. You've all probably walked past hundreds of speakers at Theme Parks and don't even realize it because they've been so well placed into the surroundings.
 
DJ TJ said:
Well it should be part of the overall look that you are trying to achieve.
The same applies to facade, ambient and uplighting.
I've never used a stand scrim only because I haven't found one (up until recently) that didn't look cheesy, imo.
It only looks like a focal point if it's the only thing in the room that's lit up or decorated, but if it's only one component of a "look" that you are trying to achieve, and used in conjunction with other ambient lighting, then I don't think it's a focal point.
I don't think there is a right or wrong to the idea of it, only how it's implemented and the overall image it produces.
It's very subjective, just like art.:)
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Only a DJ would refer to a speaker stand as a form of art.
Art is finding a way to make the speakers invisible, or aesthetically indistinguishable from the surroundings. After the acoustic considerations speaker placement is like deciding where on the floor to leave your dirty underwear. :)
 
maestro said:
Has anyone ever mounted a mover like in the photo? I just ordered a pair of 2" Global Truss tubes to mount on my Global base plates. I won't be using pipe and drape so no worries there. I will be mounting my new Intimidator 255 IRC movers on top which are compact at approx. 8 x 9" where they mount and 12.6 lbs. I will cover the tubes with white sock covers. Your thoughts?

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At that point I mount the light on the ceiling - eliminate the stand and everything else.
 
I had my local tux dealer/alterations guy make me a pair of black "socks" for my sub poles.
He put elastic on each end so it would grip.
Looks great and hides the wires.
 
Proformance said:
Only a DJ would refer to a speaker stand as a form of art.
Art is finding a way to make the speakers invisible, or aesthetically indistinguishable from the surroundings. After the acoustic considerations speaker placement is like deciding where on the floor to leave your dirty underwear. :)
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Again as per usual you zero in on one sentence to make your jab without understanding what was obviously the intent of the whole post. Nowhere did I say the dressing of the speaker stand in itself was an art form. I said people's impressions of the overall look that we are trying to achieve was very subjective, just like art.

Being subjective, like art, is a descriptive reference that means that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think it was very obvious to everyone who read it but you.

I'm sure you would be a real treat to go hunting with Bob as you continually demonstrate that you would shoot at anything that moves just for the sake of getting a shot off, before even realizing what you are shooting at.:mad:
 
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Again as per usual you zero in on one sentence to make your jab without understanding what was obviously the intent of the whole post. Nowhere did I say the dressing of the speaker stand in itself was an art form. I said people's impressions of the overall look that we are trying to achieve was very subjective, just like art.

Being subjective, like art, is a descriptive reference that means that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think it was very obvious to everyone who read it but you.

I'm sure you would be a real treat to go hunting with Bob as you continually demonstrate that you would shoot at anything that moves just for the sake of getting a shot off, before even realizing what you are shooting at.:mad:
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If it were personal this would be an email. Grow some skin dude.
The eye of this beholder still thinks the "over-all look" is stupid; not beauty or art. I'm no more likely to put a skirt around my opinion than I am my speaker stand. :)
 
LOL! Why is it that when you have been shown to be wrong, you never admit it and instead try and make yourself look superior, and not through your own merits, but only by trying to make others look inferior or beneath you.
You have shown that once again with that last post. That speaks volumes about a persons character.

You tell me to grow some skin, but its you who needs to grow a set of stones and just man up and say, "I'm sorry, but my comment wasn't properly worded and its easy to see how you or others could get their backs up by starting my post off with "only a dj would".

I don't know how anybody could get out of my last post the impression that I was trying to give you direction on anything but you seem to have a keen knack for misinterpretation, just as you did with my first post.

When you have a long history of being combative, and not based on the merits of what you say, but only for the sake of being combative, you don't get the benefit of the doubt and should not be surprised by anyone's reaction to you on this board!
 
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