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@ Dennis...with that I could DJ and bartend all at the same time! :tribiggrin::tricool:

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Well Kirby see told ya we have things like that downunder!
 
Great minds think alike,,, I have a stand up coffin in storage that I haven't used for a couple of years, but just the other day I told my wife I was thinking about going back to it.... Not having to have a table is a big plus,,,,

Now that I am using all powered and no amps it will be a lot lighter than it used to be when I had 3 Crown Marco Tech 2400's in it along with crossover, 2 wireless mics, Dual CD player, mixer, power conditioner, mini light and panels....
 
Actually the Table side is the front lid to the box

so its how they have built (added) the stand into the lid to make it come out the side is what I liked

but hey each to his own!
 
I, too, used to dream of cutting the set up time down by having everything in one rack on wheels

It only takes one venue that has some stairs to make it all not worth it.
 
Scott Hanna said:
I, too, used to dream of cutting the set up time down by having everything in one rack on wheels

It only takes one venue that has some stairs to make it all not worth it.
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Thats when you charge more for that Gig and hire help. If most of the Venues don't have that encumberance then it should not be a problem overall. Put a Roadie to work.
 
ahoustondj said:
Thats when you charge more for that Gig and hire help. If most of the Venues don't have that encumberance then it should not be a problem overall. Put a Roadie to work.
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A very viable option. However, I chose the option of not having to hire a roadie by making things easier to move. Put my mind to work.
 
Scott's right. With a case too heavy or too large to handle alone, there are going to be some unforseen hurdles.

My first case, back in the old days was all-in-one, home-built. Not necessarily super heavy but it was large and bulky. It had casters and could be rolled.

But if there were steps or a stage riser I couldn't get it there on my own. It was then I learned not to believe people when they said there would be someone there to help with it.

I'll admit our current setup isn't light. But it is piecemeal ~ I can lift and carry every case and speaker cabinet. Not that we want to... and most times we don't have to. But on the occasion when we have a short flight of stairs to a stage we can load it all ourselves. :)
 
Scott Hanna said:
A very viable option. However, I chose the option of not having to hire a roadie by making things easier to move. Put my mind to work.
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Fred Wright said:
Scott's right. With a case too heavy or too large to handle alone, there are going to be some unforseen hurdles.

My first case, back in the old days was all-in-one, home-built. Not necessarily super heavy but it was large and bulky. It had casters and could be rolled.

But if there were steps or a stage riser I couldn't get it there on my own. It was then I learned not to believe people when they said there would be someone there to help with it.

I'll admit our current setup isn't light. But it is piecemeal ~ I can lift and carry every case and speaker cabinet. Not that we want to... and most times we don't have to. But on the occasion when we have a short flight of stairs to a stage we can load it all ourselves. :)
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Site visits before a price is quoted will prevent any surprises. If a roadie is there and being paid then I get more help with the other items.
 
ahoustondj said:
Site visits before a price is quoted will prevent any surprises. If a roadie is there and being paid then I get more help with the other items.
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Just as packing a certain way can prevent the need and expense of roadie. When roadie is not being paid, I make more money.
 
Scott Hanna said:
Just as packing a certain way can prevent the need and expense of roadie. When roadie is not being paid, I make more money.
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When Roadie gets paid is because I add on extra as his cost. It does not come out of my pocket. The Client understands why they are paying more because of the extra labor needed.
 
ahoustondj said:
When Roadie gets paid is because I add on extra as his cost. It does not come out of my pocket. The Client understands why they are paying more because of the extra labor needed.
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Interesting. In Ohio, clients do not gladly pay extra money because I decided to pack a certain way. If they would pay extra, I would rather keep the money myself.
 
As I get older & with technology changing (bigger no longer = better)
I have decided to lighten my load, (packing, etc) as well as going with new gear that is is lighter & more compact.

Lugging oversized speakers & racks is sooo yesterday.

I used to lug in heavy racks full of amps & components & huge back-breaking speakers. Since I moved to powered speakers, it has made a difference.

All it takes is for you to throw out your back just once to make you realize how fragile life is.
 
Scott Hanna said:
Interesting. In Ohio, clients do not gladly pay extra money because I decided to pack a certain way. If they would pay extra, I would rather keep the money myself.
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Would you believe I charge extra for certain Hotels that have very slow elevators? Now I don't tell this to the client that way I just sum it up as it takes longer for setup and reload to my van. That one I do myself, the stairs....no way.. a helper or roadie will be there.
 
ahoustondj said:
Would you believe I charge extra for certain Hotels that have very slow elevators? Now I don't tell this to the client that way I just sum it up as it takes longer for setup and reload to my van. That one I do myself, the stairs....no way.. a helper or roadie will be there.
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Houston,

I am not against roadies. I'm all for hiring a roadie if it's needed. Passing on the cost to the client certainly makes sense.

My point simply was I don't see the logic in changing your set up structure to go from a one man system to a system that now requires a roadie.

If someone started doing bigger events that required more equipment and/or could charge substantially more, makes sense.

For a wedding DJ to have to increase his or her total fee by $100 to $200 to cover the expense of an employee that wasn't needed previously doesn't seem like progress to me.
 
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