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Maybe it was a fluke .. I'd still be leery.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Check with the Pio folks, and see if they have an option to turn off write caching. For example, in Windows, you go to Device Manager->Disk drives, highlight the drive, right-click and go to Policies, and uncheck Enable write caching on the device. That means you will be doing real time writes to the drive, and not buffering/caching. Windows then does what we call a "hard write", and flushes it's buffers everytime it writes something to the drive.

The drive may also be buffering/caching the data, so you might also want to find out if you can turn that off. Read caching is great, but write caching sucks.
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Rick, I don't think you all are fully understanding. That Hard drive is plugged directly into the Pioneer as a Music Library/Database. It has nothing to do with my Laptop! It does not create files. All it creates is playlists and plays songs from a CD, Flash Drive or External drive.
 
I bought that MEP in 2010 and this is the first problem. I have experimented shutting off without first ejecting the Flash Drives today and when I turned back on everything was fine. If it was the Pioneer then why doesn't the other Computers in the house read the drive?
 
DJ SVO said:
Yes, but I'm also referring to having a constant AC supply to avoid having to do this every time there's a power issue.
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Still may not help if I am the one who turns off the unit prematurely. I may have to place a warning sign near the Pioneer's On/Off switch on the conditioner. LOL
 
According to the manual:

if you hold the 'usb stop buttons' for 2 seconds or more, this problem should go away.
 
ahoustondj said:
Rick, I don't think you all are fully understanding. That Hard drive is plugged directly into the Pioneer as a Music Library/Database. It has nothing to do with my Laptop! It does not create files. All it creates is playlists and plays songs from a CD, Flash Drive or External drive.
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Quite frankly, I believe I do understand.

Yer working with a media box, that does not seem to conform to "industry standard".

You are essentially in uncharted territory -- give us a heads up, when you figure it out... ;)
 
ittigger said:
According to the manual:

if you hold the 'usb stop buttons' for 2 seconds or more, this problem should go away.
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Thats what you have to do to "Stop" it not repair it! I am leaning more and more to the Seagate HD being the Culprit.
 
I highly doubt the drive is the problem

Also, if you read page 12, it doesn't say this is to stop it. It says that in the event there is a loss of connection, which there was.
 
ittigger said:
I highly doubt the drive is the problem

Also, if you read page 12, it doesn't say this is to stop it. It says that in the event there is a loss of connection, which there was.
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Mike,
I have the manual right in front of me. To stop the USB Storage device, it clearly says "Hold the STOP button depressed for two seconds or more. Wait to remove the device after the red indicator changes from flashing to off."
It also goes on to caution users to follow this procedure before turning off the unit. There are no instructions to fix the problem I have. I already spoke to Pioneer today.
The Unit is playing just fine. From the first day I bought that Seagate I have had problems with it on the MEP. There are other MEP users who agree that it is best to use a manufactured formatted Fat32 with the unit. It would not even read a NTFS Format.
 
Ok? You formatted for FAT, that eliminates that problem. Your computer also recognizes the drive - eliminates that problem too. Again, I don't think the problem is the drive. From what I can see, the MEP doesn't just 'read' the drive. It indexes it too for it's own 'library' of sorts.

The part I was talking about on page 12, discusses flash, usb, etc under warnings. Page 26 DOES discuss disconnecting before stopping.

CAUTION:
When disconnecting a USB storage device, always be sure to perform the stop operation first.
If the stop operation is not completed before disconnection, cue/loop memory and playlist update may not occur properly, resulting in the loss of data. Also, the USB storage device may become unreadable, or other substantial damage may occur.
In the case of a HDD device, do not subject it to impact or vibration during use.

This doesn't mean the disk is bad. It means the data is corrupt - because you unplugged it.
 
I'm with Rick. I think its a write caching issue. Pioneer firmware/protocol probably treats all drives like a flash drive first and HDD come second in their world. Pioneer probably only does a hard write when the drive is being triggered to disconnect. Got another HDD around you can power down incorrectly and see if you can replicate the problem? I think the Seagate is fine. I'd like to see you play around with another drive just to get the error to happen again.
 
ittigger said:
Ok? You formatted for FAT, that eliminates that problem. Your computer also recognizes the drive - eliminates that problem too. Again, I don't think the problem is the drive. From what I can see, the MEP doesn't just 'read' the drive. It indexes it too for it's own 'library' of sorts.

The part I was talking about on page 12, discusses flash, usb, etc under warnings. Page 26 DOES discuss disconnecting before stopping.

CAUTION:
When disconnecting a USB storage device, always be sure to perform the stop operation first.
If the stop operation is not completed before disconnection, cue/loop memory and playlist update may not occur properly, resulting in the loss of data. Also, the USB storage device may become unreadable, or other substantial damage may occur.
In the case of a HDD device, do not subject it to impact or vibration during use.

This doesn't mean the disk is bad. It means the data is corrupt - because you unplugged it.
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The drive is probably fine the data is probably screwed.
 
ittigger said:
Ok? You formatted for FAT, that eliminates that problem. Your computer also recognizes the drive - My Computer does not recognize it! eliminates that problem too. Again, I don't think the problem is the drive. From what I can see, the MEP doesn't just 'read' the drive. It indexes it too for it's own 'library' of sorts.

The part I was talking about on page 12, discusses flash, usb, etc under warnings. Page 26 DOES discuss disconnecting before stopping.

CAUTION:
When disconnecting a USB storage device, always be sure to perform the stop operation first.
If the stop operation is not completed before disconnection, cue/loop memory and playlist update may not occur properly, resulting in the loss of data. Also, the USB storage device may become unreadable, or other substantial damage may occur.
In the case of a HDD device, do not subject it to impact or vibration during use.

This doesn't mean the disk is bad. It means the data is corrupt - because you unplugged it. Maybe so!
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jtnichol said:
I'm with Rick. I think its a write caching issue. Pioneer firmware/protocol probably treats all drives like a flash drive first and HDD come second in their world. Pioneer probably only does a hard write when the drive is being triggered to disconnect.
I think the Seagate is fine. I'd like to see you play around with another drive just to get the error to happen again.
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I did that today, everything works fine.

DJ SVO said:
The drive is probably fine the data is probably screwed.
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I will reformat it tomorrow and see.

Folks I have a hunch. That particular drive was being used not only as Music Storage for the MEP but as a Transfer device for files between my computers at home. There has to be over 50 folders on there with all sorts of things. Pioneer prefers that the less amount of Folders you have the better. This is why it probably froze at shutdown.
 
Houston....I think that Pioneer in this case kind of needed to tweak things to make it work with any number of folders. Why limit your DJ's especially if you are supposed to be one of the leaders? Pioneer is a bit like Apple. Limit your customers to keep things rock solid. I like the ability to do what I want with a drive personally. Just my opinion....I know you will figure it out.
 
I can't even get the Drive to Reformat. I am taking it up the street in a minute to a Computer Tech who has done stuff before for me.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Houston, we have a problem...


I just always wanted to say that xf:D
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Yep we do. I am tempted to return it and get something else. A WD hard drive.
 
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