I would not do it. Stifling my creativity can make me look poorly in the public eye. If I am hanging out my shingle, it is gonna be my work. I used to take those, no more. Hire me to be creative, then let me create. I will not allow anyone 100% control over my list.
"I want 100% control of the playlist", says the bride
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Kirby Ball
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Heck No!
Anyone that would take this should ask themselves 3 things:
1. Are they hiring for my DJ/Emcee skills? /or to be a human jukebox?
2. How many other DJs turned them down before they contacted me?
3. Why do I need to take this gig? ...Are gigs that hard to come by?
Anyone that would take this should ask themselves 3 things:
1. Are they hiring for my DJ/Emcee skills? /or to be a human jukebox?
2. How many other DJs turned them down before they contacted me?
3. Why do I need to take this gig? ...Are gigs that hard to come by?
My answer is still Yes Papa I would take it.
I look at it from the stand point that there are all different types of people out there and if I am going to succeed in this business I have to be as flexible and knowledgeable as I can to ensure I have a large base of clients to book from.
Dealing with a Bride or Groom like this makes working for most other Brides and Grooms a piece of cake.
Been tested by several Brides and Grooms like the one that your thinking about turning down and I would still do it again.
I look at it from the stand point that there are all different types of people out there and if I am going to succeed in this business I have to be as flexible and knowledgeable as I can to ensure I have a large base of clients to book from.
Dealing with a Bride or Groom like this makes working for most other Brides and Grooms a piece of cake.
Been tested by several Brides and Grooms like the one that your thinking about turning down and I would still do it again.
I understand Papa but there is still missing information...it's impossible to answer before you ask her "why".
If I had the chance to sit down and get a full explanation on WHY they wanted full control....and if it was something that I absolutely could not work with, then no. However...there are usually reasons WHY they feel they need complete control other then they are just control freaks.
Yes I agree that you are missing the human aspect. Why not hear from her yourself. Not just take a written statement. If when you are discussing this her, if she truly wants it to be her way only then decline.
Papa The question I ask is, Why are you not wanting to talk to her. Are you afraid you will accept the job and then realize she is a super control freak? ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, get the right answers.
Also look at it this way, pay full price, create a playlist of her music. Announce repeatedly that the music selection was created by SO IN SO the bride. Let every one know this and your night will be very easy. If people ask, let them know.
Could be a very easy night. Just hitting stop and play!!
Papa The question I ask is, Why are you not wanting to talk to her. Are you afraid you will accept the job and then realize she is a super control freak? ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, get the right answers.
Also look at it this way, pay full price, create a playlist of her music. Announce repeatedly that the music selection was created by SO IN SO the bride. Let every one know this and your night will be very easy. If people ask, let them know.
Could be a very easy night. Just hitting stop and play!!
I expected you would still take it. No slams, but just a question, are there ANY events you will not take if it is humanly possible that you can take them?
I come back to this a lot. I can only do so many events, and I want to enjoy all of the ones that I choose to do. Also, have you never had a person lie to you OR maybe you just had a bad "read" on someone?
Also, and this is my opinion, I think that NO MATTER how many times you tell people that the music was the bride and / or groom's choice, people really don't believe it or care.... all they know is that the DJ didn't make them happy.
So, for someone like me, who does about 10 events per year, one bad party is much more of a disaster - the way "I" see it - than someone who does 40 events a year...... 10% vs. 2.5%, if you get my drift.
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Guest
Guest
Anyone making such a demand up front if simply a bridezilla in the waiting, and quite simply would not be worth the hassle, no matter how much she is willing to pay.
Papa what is the lead cost? Is it worth exploring after all you could always email her a Send Out Cards no thanks card.
After insuring that she understood that taking complete charge of the music also means taking full responsibility for the outcome, that I am there only as an employee with no decision powers and I cannot be held responsible for any of her choices, and that to insure that all her family, friends, and guest were on-board with her decisions and choices, this would be sequenced on my video screen throughout the night:
and she had no problem with any of this, yes, I'd enjoy brainlessly working for her.
If she balked at any of the aforementioned, that means she's throwing me under the bus in which case I decline the event with gratitude for the opportunity to speak with her.
and she had no problem with any of this, yes, I'd enjoy brainlessly working for her.
If she balked at any of the aforementioned, that means she's throwing me under the bus in which case I decline the event with gratitude for the opportunity to speak with her.
Papa
There are certain nationalities I prefer to not work for.
If a Latin event is requesting more then 30 percent of the party music to be Latin I will pass on that.
If during the initial consultation the B/G come across like people I don't like I will pass on that.
There are certain nationalities I prefer to not work for.
If a Latin event is requesting more then 30 percent of the party music to be Latin I will pass on that.
If during the initial consultation the B/G come across like people I don't like I will pass on that.
DjDennis
RIP- My Dad (2011), Sister (2013) and Mum (2017)
I would take it but...........
I would also create a contract that because I have no control and are operating like a jukebox that if NO-One dances because of the selection of music , the Dj is NOT responsible for no one dancing what so ever...
just makes the bride realize that its not as easy as she thinks....
plus double the rate...
I would also create a contract that because I have no control and are operating like a jukebox that if NO-One dances because of the selection of music , the Dj is NOT responsible for no one dancing what so ever...
just makes the bride realize that its not as easy as she thinks....
plus double the rate...
I would at least try to make contact with the "potential" client and inquire about the clause she inserted into the email contact. If after conferring with her, and she still insisted that she was serious about 100% control, I would do the same as Cap - take the gig and make absolutely sure all guests and family members knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Bride was in control of all music selections.
Sometimes money does talk.
Sometimes money does talk.
I tend to agree with Bill Kexel. This bride doesn't really want a DJ. She wants a password-protected jukebox that only she can control. If she's that adamant about controlling the music selections, what else will she be controlling?
I'll go further than that ~ who is involved in creating this playlist? Are there gonna be middle school-aged pups piling their rap and headbanging tastes on the list? I've seen it happen.
Let's don a different pair of shoes for a moment: Suppose we were ourcateringtalk.com and this scenario arose for discussion. How many of us would give the bride 100% absolute authority over how we were to serve her guests?
Take a stroll in the photographer's shoes. Same scenario. How professional a photography job could ya do if the bride was leaning over your shoulder and dictating your shots? Yup I've seen that happen too.
Some great arguments for taking the show have been made. The folks who would be willing to pursue a show of this nature have my respect. I'm just sayin' it doesn't come across as a positive working environment for an experienced wedding DJ.
What about the groom? Is he gonna have a say in anything? How about the guests? Are you supposed to send 'em to the bride every time you're asked to play something that's not on the playlist?
Sorry, guys but I'd pass on this one. Wolfie's not a jukebox and I don't wish to be portrayed as one in the guests' eyes.
I'll go further than that ~ who is involved in creating this playlist? Are there gonna be middle school-aged pups piling their rap and headbanging tastes on the list? I've seen it happen.
Let's don a different pair of shoes for a moment: Suppose we were ourcateringtalk.com and this scenario arose for discussion. How many of us would give the bride 100% absolute authority over how we were to serve her guests?
Take a stroll in the photographer's shoes. Same scenario. How professional a photography job could ya do if the bride was leaning over your shoulder and dictating your shots? Yup I've seen that happen too.
Some great arguments for taking the show have been made. The folks who would be willing to pursue a show of this nature have my respect. I'm just sayin' it doesn't come across as a positive working environment for an experienced wedding DJ.
What about the groom? Is he gonna have a say in anything? How about the guests? Are you supposed to send 'em to the bride every time you're asked to play something that's not on the playlist?
Sorry, guys but I'd pass on this one. Wolfie's not a jukebox and I don't wish to be portrayed as one in the guests' eyes.
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Guest
Guest
Where I am, decidio charges $1 per lead. I plunked down $20, and probably have 2 or 3 left. So far, I've netted absolutely squat from it.
Would I buy the lead? Yes, and here's why. You said it was a) nearby, b) a date you're available, c) in your price range, and d) it's one dollar.
I would ask a question that no one has asked yet (unless I missed it, catching up with 2 pages on this one): what's on the list? If the list contains enough "ingredients" that I feel I can make it work, I'd take the job. If I can get an understanding of what this bride is either afraid I'll do (which is one reason she might want 100% control), or understand her vision to an extent that I feel I can provide what she's interested in, I'd take the job.
I cannot determine, from email, the difference between a bridezilla, and an overly concerned bride, who could become the nicest woman you'd ever meet, once you get past the rough exterior and into to her "comfort zone" (presuming she allows me - or you, in). For a dollar, I'd take the chance, being fully prepared to walk away at any point.
Sometimes you jump through the hoops, and that's it, you win! Other times, you jump through the hoops, and they keep firing more and more hoops at you. I'll do the former. I'll pass on the latter.
Would I buy the lead? Yes, and here's why. You said it was a) nearby, b) a date you're available, c) in your price range, and d) it's one dollar.
I would ask a question that no one has asked yet (unless I missed it, catching up with 2 pages on this one): what's on the list? If the list contains enough "ingredients" that I feel I can make it work, I'd take the job. If I can get an understanding of what this bride is either afraid I'll do (which is one reason she might want 100% control), or understand her vision to an extent that I feel I can provide what she's interested in, I'd take the job.
I cannot determine, from email, the difference between a bridezilla, and an overly concerned bride, who could become the nicest woman you'd ever meet, once you get past the rough exterior and into to her "comfort zone" (presuming she allows me - or you, in). For a dollar, I'd take the chance, being fully prepared to walk away at any point.
Sometimes you jump through the hoops, and that's it, you win! Other times, you jump through the hoops, and they keep firing more and more hoops at you. I'll do the former. I'll pass on the latter.
yes Steve you missed my post but I said if its 200 songs long like I have had before I agreed and chose the best knowing I could cherry pick for the evening.