I told 2 brides no

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rickryan.com said:
It may well be the cleanest but what about levels? Were I a videographer, no way in the world would I depend on a DJ, who is not responsible for video stuff, to be responsible for putting a good level to my recording device.
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It's an issue, but can easily be rectified. Both my DJ mixer (Denon X500) and Karaoke mixer (A&H ZED12FX) have record outs, or I can use the booth out on the Denon and aux sends on the A&H.

I agree it's not fair to assume you will provide it, but I figure if I didn't, I would be the one either blamed or pointed to when a guest says "Why does he have 2 mics on him?", so it's really in my or your interest to make it work .. just get something in return.
 
rickryan.com said:
It may well be the cleanest but what about levels? Were I a videographer, no way in the world would I depend on a DJ, who is not responsible for video stuff, to be responsible for putting a good level to my recording device.
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If one is a DJ that just goes from Laptop to (Maybe mixer too) Powered speaker, I can see that would be very challenging. On a basic level, the only thing that should change the level of a Recording Output is if the original Source Gain changes.
 
A true professional would always ask at the signing of the Contract, questions such as this, "Will there be anyone else needing to plug into my system?" this is the time to tack on an extra $50-$100.00
 
ahoustondj said:
A true professional would always ask at the signing of the Contract, questions such as this, "Will there be anyone else needing to plug into my system?" this is the time to tack on an extra $50-$100.00
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$100 connection fee, $100 disconnection fee, $400 hassle fee
 
I would only charge if there was some expectation that I had to provide the necessary cables. I think this is no different than someone asking you to make an announcement that someone's lights are on .. I hope you aren't charging for that.
 
steve149 said:
I would only charge if there was some expectation that I had to provide the necessary cables. I think this is no different than someone asking you to make an announcement that someone's lights are on .. I hope you aren't charging for that.
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I charge a professional fee. I am saving the person the time and expense. I also supply the cables. The cost is not itemized, it is added to the total before I give my quote.
 
steve149 said:
I would only charge if there was some expectation that I had to provide the necessary cables.
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This is where I draw the line. I provide the place on the board to plug in THEIR cable. My connections are xlr or 1/4" balanced. You want "unbalanced"...and we are going to have a LOOOOOOOONG talk about your crappy connector. :tritongue:
 
soundinmotiondj said:
This is where I draw the line. I provide the place on the board to plug in THEIR cable. My connections are xlr or 1/4" balanced. You want "unbalanced"...and we are going to have a LOOOOOOOONG talk about your crappy connector. :tritongue:
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Most record out connections are un-balanced (RCA to boot), but if that's what they want .. that's what they get. Booth outs and aux outs are balanced should they choose that. Only had it asked one time in a live sound setting by someone filming an act. They set up the camera near the FOH position and I gave them rec. out (RCA) to a stereo 1/8" in (that's what was on the camera). Luckily I had the cable as it wasn't requested previously, but it was an acquaintance, so I looked for one.
 
Papa Deuce said:
The people who rented the hall paid for it.
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And by that logic....the people who rented you paid for your "aux out" connection....
 
When ever I've had a REQUEST, I've always done it.

When a bride has asked about it, I've said, have the videographer call me and I'll see if I can work it out.

When the videographer calls me and ASKS, I'll be glad to help him out. It's created some great relationships. When they've asked at the event, I have no problem doing it. They should have no problem giving you footage.

Only once have I said no. A goof came up to me and said, "Here, plug this in somewhere". and goes to hand me his cord. I said, Sorry, can't do it". A little while someone else came up and said, "Is there a way I could plug this in, I replied, "Sure".
 
soundinmotiondj said:
And by that logic....the people who rented you paid for your "aux out" connection....
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Not if I told them I don't do that... and I don't. And I always tell them.... but from here on out it will be in my contract.
 
Papa Deuce said:
Not if I told them I don't do that... and I don't. And I always tell them.... but from here on out it will be in my contract.
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I get that you "don't". What I don't (yet) get is "why"? What is your concern that has lead you to adopt this particular policy?
 
I'm sorry Papa. I've always liked your posts/thoughts/ideas, but you are WAY OFF on this. Some might call it being a d(u)ick. Come on Papa, be helpful, not useless. What's the ole saying about honey versus vinegar.
 
soundinmotiondj said:
What is your concern that has lead you to adopt this particular policy?
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soundinmotion - Suppose, just SUPPOSE, that while hooked into YOUR system, the VGs system goes kerflooey... We all know that it is not YOUR fault, but there is no sound for the remainder of the B&G's video, and the VG blames it on the "hot signal" your board sent HIS precious equipment. Who does the B&G believe, and is it worth the fight to prove that you're right? It's easier to cover my arse BEFORE the event, via the contract, than after it via the courts...

Again, is this all a bit far-fetched? Perhaps, but I've made a career of CMA to extremes and (knock wood) so far it has played out well for me... YMMV...
 
Let's just 'suppose' your system dies during their first dance. Now you've ruined their wedding video. Who's at fault? Are you going to refund the client the cost of their videographer? This could go on and on. Be a realist.
 
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