Final Thoughts after purchasing DB Tech ES1203 speakers

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It just looks strange to me .. like an alien robot. Our local shopping chain, Stop&Shop, has a floor cleaning robot named Marty .. the speaker/light reminds me of it ...

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That is too cool. It needs some hands so you can slap it five! Nice job biotch! :sqlaugh:
 
The one thing that really bums me out about the t4....is it has a headphone jack with no ability to send a signal just to the headphones for cuing. Seems very strange to me. If it did, I’d have already bought it.

Agreed, but having 3 parametric EQ is a nice upgrade. I wish it had the headphone cue, but not so sure I would use it much-- maybe for the one I use in my ceremony rig.
 
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Interesting - I appreciate the review.

It looks like you're running a double stack on each side? Or, are you using the dummy riser thing they sell to cover the pole?

When you compared them against the Evox 12s, what specifically were you looking for? I think the Evox sound really nice... but I don't think they handle nearly the capacity that people talk about. I've heard people say crazy stuff like 400 people... which I think is ridiculous.

I am running the dummy speaker. So the ES1203 comes with two arrays that link together. Of course, you can run each array (has 4 drivers) separately to get a stereo effect which is pretty cool for a lot of users. There is no way to run more than 2 speakers per stack with the DB Tech. That's where the Bose is better. A longer array has many advantages.

Evox12s are certainly better than Evox8s, but not by a huge margin, and I actually would have gone with the EVOX8 b/c of how well it does for its size in comparison to the 12. The Evox12 sounds nicer and has a tad more headroom, but overall, the DB Tech kicks harder in that 60-80hertz region b/c of the dual 12 hybrid horn setup.

Also, I think it looks better than the EVOX12, well at least with the dummy speaker that I have. After owning the Bose, and getting used to that clean of a look, the pole really bothers me. Also, the ability to mount the light played a role, and there is no way you can do that with the EVOX12.

And yea, the people claiming 400 people are absolute liars.

I recently did a 500 person crowd with the ES103, but it wasn't a dancing environment, and the most I would do would be 350.
 
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I picked up the T4s, which is why i was asking how the controller plugged in.

Thanks for the info.
 
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one thing I wanted to add is that the build quality is a little better on the BOSE. I used them for the last 5 years and they pretty much looked new when I sold them. I The coating is super thick and when you ding it, wood does not show through unless you drop it on concrete or something similar.

I hit one corner on the ES1203, and already, I can see a tiny wood exposed.
 
one thing I wanted to add is that the build quality is a little better on the BOSE. I used them for the last 5 years and they pretty much looked new when I sold them. I The coating is super thick and when you ding it, wood does not show through unless you drop it on concrete or something similar.
Nothings perfect. I know of at least one musician who has had a high failure rate with L1's here in Florida. He frequently plays outside where it's hot and humid (real humid). He's not beating on them - only mic'ing his voice and an acoustic guitar - but they've failed enough times that he's disgusted with them.
 
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Nothings perfect. I know of at least one musician who has had a high failure rate with L1's here in Florida. He frequently plays outside where it's hot and humid (real humid). He's not beating on them - only mic'ing his voice and an acoustic guitar - but they've failed enough times that he's disgusted with them.

I don't believe this is a defect but rather a safety feature. I've never had a failure, but I've heard someone mention a failure in a hot and humid situation. There is a safety feature that will shut the unit down in extreme situations like this. I'd still encourage him to contact customer care. He can send it to them and they should be able to tell if that's why it shut down.

It does sound like the wrong tool for his situation. I'd recommend keeping any computerized equipment out of that environment, whenever possible. If it has to be outside, keep it out of the sun at the very least and use a fan if possible

I recently did a wedding with a model 2 outside. Very hot. I had shade and fans hitting, me, my computer and my sound system. No problems.

Not saying your friend did this but I saw a thread where a dj complained about his system failed him because it shut down after playing music after about 4 hours. He did mention it was extremely hot. He showed some pics and the unit was in the blazing sun way down south.
 
I don't believe this is a defect but rather a safety feature. I've never had a failure, but I've heard someone mention a failure in a hot and humid situation. There is a safety feature that will shut the unit down in extreme situations like this. I'd still encourage him to contact customer care. He can send it to them and they should be able to tell if that's why it shut down.
He's in the shade when he plays, usually under an overhang, but it's still hot and extremely humid. They get heavy use - he plays a minimum of 4 times a week - and they've been repaired twice already, by Bose.
 
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He's in the shade when he plays, usually under an overhang, but it's still hot and extremely humid. They get heavy use - he plays a minimum of 4 times a week - and they've been repaired twice already, by Bose.

That's strange because Bose usually replaces anything that is sent in for repair a second time. Heck, I just sent my powerstand for repair and they replaced it with brand new.

He can trade in his powerstand for a new one for $300.
 
Is that why Bose charges as much a they do .. they factor in all the replacement parts they will need to send out? :)
 
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If a system failed on me twice, it's gone, period. That said, I only had one issue with my L1 and that was that the T1 would lose connection with the tower if the voltage was too low. It took me a few days to get it out of Bose that they did have a problem and I immediately ditched the T1. Several years later I switched away from using the L1 because I didn't have a backup and wasn't going to spend another $2.5k on a 2nd system.
 
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If a system failed on me twice, it's gone, period. That said, I only had one issue with my L1 and that was that the T1 would lose connection with the tower if the voltage was too low. It took me a few days to get it out of Bose that they did have a problem and I immediately ditched the T1. Several years later I switched away from using the L1 because I didn't have a backup and wasn't going to spend another $2.5k on a 2nd system.
Bose's version of MCAS.

For those of you who do not fully understand the Boing 737 Max's problem, and the design change that caused it. It's not what you think -

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tuKiiznsY

Remember, this is a YouTube video with what I'm sure is a gross oversimplification of the problem. None the less, IMHO, a plane left to it's own (no hands or input from the pilot), if properly balanced, should fly relatively level and not climb into a stall - even though the things are probably on AutoPilot 99% of the time.
 
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Is that why Bose charges as much a they do .. they factor in all the replacement parts they will need to send out? :)
Buuuuuuurrrrrrnnnnnnn😄
 
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2 Mics, Controller, and background music (dinner, etc) all run into the T1, and each has their own processing.

The Tonematch mixer is something I will never part with as a mobile DJ. Having a simple, easy to use, powerful DSP at your fingertips with settings that can be changed on the fly is very important to me. It even allows me post mix options for each channel so that I can send content to separate wireless speakers (different zones) and have a different signal levels for each channel.


I clearly need to learn my ToneMatch mixer much better! Didn't realize it had that much capability. I knew I wasn't tapping into near as much as what it could do (mostly to my limited understanding of audio in general) but this is good to know.
 
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I clearly need to learn my ToneMatch mixer much better! Didn't realize it had that much capability. I knew I wasn't tapping into near as much as what it could do (mostly to my limited understanding of audio in general) but this is good to know.

Im certainly no expert, but I d be glad to pass along anything I can. Let me know if you would like to talk some time
 
.. and I can do the same with power cords !!