Enough with this!
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The problem as I see it is you are concentrating on my comments and not the context in which they were made.
Yes the comment was pertaining to another thread as were the comments of Ace. Nothing condesending about it in the other thread which it refers to Ace made the comment that he was an expert on crunk because he was a producer, or at least that was my take on what he said.
Also if you read the thread you would have noticed a general consensus which was the 90% I was refering to.
Kelly I can't help this I just have to ask, DID you read the thread or just my comments?
If you did read it will you please tell me what Ace's comment was in the post just before the one of mine you qouted from?
I agree if you are going to take comments out of context and without reading what the comments are about it might be very easy for someone to "take these comments the wrong way"........
I think it would be much better if people would bother to read the whole thread before making comment and then balance their comments at least based on the whole picture instead one tiny piece of it.
But to at least let you know what condesending remark I did make to Ace it was this:
Oh no I don't know everything, I thought I did when I was 21!
That was a condesending remark with it's whole purpose being to slap Ace across the face with a little reality. Sorry you missed that one!
Steve,
I didn't miss that one, I actually felt that Arnoldo deserved that one. I wasn't absolving him of his comments. I took the time last night to go all the way back and read all of Peters comments and you are right in the fact that he came out swinging.
I wonder if you took the time to read all the posts prior to his 1st posts where many were taking swings at him and he wasn't even here to defend himself. One of them was you. I understand that Peter has pushed some buttons in his day, but if ODJT is a kinder, gentler forum, you wouldn't have been able to tell it from the thread that Larry Williams started concerning Peter speaking in Vegas.
Like I said, I'm not here to fight. I don't know Peter on a personal level as I have only had dealings with him as a presenter / through his DVD / and through the chat boards. I happen to share many of his opinions, but not all of them. I was reading his posts and I'm sure we both got a different vibe from it as we both have different points of view.
From what I can gather, you are a decent guy that is defending yourself / your friends / your profession. I see Peter doing the same. Ultimately we all want our profession to be stronger and not preceived as the red headed step child of the wedding industry.
I didn't miss that one, I actually felt that Arnoldo deserved that one. I wasn't absolving him of his comments. I took the time last night to go all the way back and read all of Peters comments and you are right in the fact that he came out swinging.
I wonder if you took the time to read all the posts prior to his 1st posts where many were taking swings at him and he wasn't even here to defend himself. One of them was you. I understand that Peter has pushed some buttons in his day, but if ODJT is a kinder, gentler forum, you wouldn't have been able to tell it from the thread that Larry Williams started concerning Peter speaking in Vegas.
Like I said, I'm not here to fight. I don't know Peter on a personal level as I have only had dealings with him as a presenter / through his DVD / and through the chat boards. I happen to share many of his opinions, but not all of them. I was reading his posts and I'm sure we both got a different vibe from it as we both have different points of view.
From what I can gather, you are a decent guy that is defending yourself / your friends / your profession. I see Peter doing the same. Ultimately we all want our profession to be stronger and not preceived as the red headed step child of the wedding industry.
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Kelly,
Yes I know the comments that were made and the ones on my part as well, the Drama/comedy comment. And Peter confirmed that it was indeed a drama/comedy.
I didn't see anywhere in that thread where anyone called Peter anything until he came out with the comments about the people here at ODJT. In fact the only comments really made were in reference to the Book not the man. Those came after his attacks.
There are many of Peter's veiw points that all of us share, or perhaps it is the veiw points of the many that Peter shares. Not one hates Peter, many don't like his additude, demeanor and pomposity but still enjoy reading his post.
I don't know if Peter ever put this fact into one of his seminars or not but DJ is the redheaded stepchild of the wedding industry. Ask any bride.... If money was no object, and you could afford it which would you rather have at your reception.
A> The band of your choice
B> A DJ
I already know the answer you will get from 98% of the girls you won't ask, and I think you do too!
Actually I am not defending myself or a friend, I do however want to protect the industry from over zealous, over bearing people. Regardless of their intentions, they are hurting the industry.
Yes I know the comments that were made and the ones on my part as well, the Drama/comedy comment. And Peter confirmed that it was indeed a drama/comedy.
I didn't see anywhere in that thread where anyone called Peter anything until he came out with the comments about the people here at ODJT. In fact the only comments really made were in reference to the Book not the man. Those came after his attacks.
There are many of Peter's veiw points that all of us share, or perhaps it is the veiw points of the many that Peter shares. Not one hates Peter, many don't like his additude, demeanor and pomposity but still enjoy reading his post.
I don't know if Peter ever put this fact into one of his seminars or not but DJ is the redheaded stepchild of the wedding industry. Ask any bride.... If money was no object, and you could afford it which would you rather have at your reception.
A> The band of your choice
B> A DJ
I already know the answer you will get from 98% of the girls you won't ask, and I think you do too!
Actually I am not defending myself or a friend, I do however want to protect the industry from over zealous, over bearing people. Regardless of their intentions, they are hurting the industry.
Sorry Steve, not to jump on this thread but I don't believe that's true at all, at least in my area. Just about everyone I know and talk to would much rather have a DJ playing the songs by the original artist then have a band try to imitate them.
1) Bands have a limited number of songs to choose from.
2) Bands are typically louder
3) Bands require more setup space and are prone to more problems due to increased amount of equipment and members.
4) Bands take breaks
5) Bands are just singing cover versions
Don't get me wrong, there are bands around here and are hired all the time. I think they are hired more by pushy parents and older folks though. I don't see many 22 year old brides wanting to dance to bands.
Now back to your thread........
I don't wanna IMPEDE on this thread.....but this phrase caught my attention (and my funnybone too).....
Hey folks......just a reminder..... if a word gets underlined in RED, use your dictionary and find the right way to spell it....(I myself have found a LOT of errors by heeding the underlined red words...)
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Basic,
Hey I like your input, but you missed a couple of points here.
If money was no object, and you could afford it
The band of your choice
Remember when we discuss this we are talking about brides who can pay $5000 plus for a DJ, for a few more thousand they could pick up a major artist to play at their wedding.
I am talking about brides who aren't limited to space constraints because they can afford it.
There are party bands (one in this area goes out for $3000) that are flat out awesome playing covers and do a lot of different genres from many different eras. They are booked almost every weekend, and book two years out. I have DJed many times with this band at weddings so there are no breaks in the music and what they can't play I can.
The point is if the bride has the funds to have a good band they will.
Hey I like your input, but you missed a couple of points here.
If money was no object, and you could afford it
The band of your choice
Remember when we discuss this we are talking about brides who can pay $5000 plus for a DJ, for a few more thousand they could pick up a major artist to play at their wedding.
I am talking about brides who aren't limited to space constraints because they can afford it.
There are party bands (one in this area goes out for $3000) that are flat out awesome playing covers and do a lot of different genres from many different eras. They are booked almost every weekend, and book two years out. I have DJed many times with this band at weddings so there are no breaks in the music and what they can't play I can.
The point is if the bride has the funds to have a good band they will.
DJMC,
Wouldn't it be great if the boards had a spell checker? I don't worry about it because I type as I talk. I don't worry about spelling as long as its close.
Steve,
I understand what you are saying and I agree. My point was that if you are being attacked (preceived or actually) your natural instict is to retaliate. I'm not blaming you as you felt attacted. I'm not blaming Peter because I'm sure he felt attacked. It would be great if everyone used more tact before typing. I think it would contribute to the atmosphere that I believe ODJT is shooting for.
Wouldn't it be great if the boards had a spell checker? I don't worry about it because I type as I talk. I don't worry about spelling as long as its close.
Steve,
I understand what you are saying and I agree. My point was that if you are being attacked (preceived or actually) your natural instict is to retaliate. I'm not blaming you as you felt attacted. I'm not blaming Peter because I'm sure he felt attacked. It would be great if everyone used more tact before typing. I think it would contribute to the atmosphere that I believe ODJT is shooting for.
Try this for those using 2.0.0.1
Go to Tools in the top -> Options on the bottom -> General Tab
Under the browsing group the last check box, check spelling as I type.
Make sure it has a check mark in it. There you go, should work.
If not try restarting firefox/computer
Go to Tools in the top -> Options on the bottom -> General Tab
Under the browsing group the last check box, check spelling as I type.
Make sure it has a check mark in it. There you go, should work.
If not try restarting firefox/computer
Ah. I haven't upgraded to 2.0. I like my Extensions, and some don't work with 2.0 yet. Besides, I remember too well all the problems people had with it. Have any of the problems been fixed?
