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I will update the JPG to wording such as Affordable and also add casual in somewhere.

I will keep the discounts in because I want them to be seen.

Rocky:

The prices are appropriate for the setting. The expences are minimal. Music is based on availability; basically, if I don't have it and can't get it off iTunes then either they supply it or they don't get it, so, that expense is minimal. Others expenses may come in later on but that will be on an as needed and can buy it basis.

All:

This is more to promote the lodge. I'm not looking for this to be the business Good Knight Entertainment was. I'm only keeping the name because the hosting and domain are paid for. If it works then the lodge benefits through rentals and I get some extra cash in my pocket. If it doesn't then at least I tried and I still have Friday nights to enjoy DJing.

It is also a hobby now. It is not a business.

Finally, they don't have to use me if they rent the hall. If they want a more formal approach then I have listed links to other DJs; if they want a night other than Saturday then they can go to the links; and, if they want another hall then they can go to the links.
 
DJ PAUL said:
For a cheap dj you sure have alot of information.

Try:
Cheapest dj in town! Every tenth caller gets 50% off!
123-456-7890

That will get the phone to ring.
:trismug:

Paul
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LOL. You know, I might actually try that.

Now, in regard to information are you talking about the ad or the website. The ad can be toned down; however, the pages on the website are landing pages for SEO purposes.
 
Steve LeBlanc said:
Patrick - I don't think you're being judged by dressing with what the bulk of the folks are wearing; you will likely be judged by "under dressing".

Frankly, as pointed out by Rox, under dressing simply shows a lack of respect.

I don't wear a tie or sport jacket most times, I do wear a dark blue/black dress shirt, buttoned and black/dark blur dress pants with black shoes...

To me, its common courtesy
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but once again, if the client makes on informed choice about who they hire and have all the information, my only concern is making the client happy. Judging by the surveys we receive back, none of our clients seem to mind our attire.

If we miss out on a job because of how we are dressed, it is most likely a job we would have passed on anyway. We know the exact market we target, and are perfectly happy working with "our kind of people" (for lack of a better term).
 
djrox said:
Really? You have chosen to wear shorts and a t-shirt to someone else's wedding reception where the theme was not "beach" or "white trash" or something else relatively thematic?
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Absolutely I have.

I am not put on this earth to impress anyone or care about what people think of me. If I am being invited to an event, the people inviting me know me and know how I am.

The only time you will ever see me not in a shorts (or jeans in the winter) and a t-shirt is when I am working. Out side of that, that is all I own and wear.
 
Jon Tuck said:
Pat do you wear sandals shorts and tank top to work at the hotel?
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Notice what I said, the only time I am not in short/jeans and a tee is when I am working. I change into the polo and dress pants when I get there, then instantly am back in the jeans when I clock out
 
In regard to dress, I don't even wear a tie to the Federal job and I am in the process of moving over to polos there too.

Folks, the tie started out as a napkin. It is time to throw the napkin away.

I have no problem with folks dressing up for "formal" events but, really, check in with your clients; maybe they don't expect that from you. Society still places too much emphasis on attire and "appropriate formality".

I now operate a casual hobby. Yes, I said hobby. I am spelling out the casual attire because I want prospective clients to know that before we even meet and I want them to know that if they expect formality then they can exercise their option to keep looking.

I have operated in business suits and tuxes in the past but now I am not.
 
jokerswild said:
I respectfully and completely disagree.
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That's OK. I could never be a guest at a wedding in less than a dark suit much less perform at one.

Your appearance and reputation are on the line at every event. Why chance it by being lazy in your dress code? The two conditions are intertwined.

The church I attend has a very relaxed dress code and I enjoy that.

Maybe I should add a "how do you want me dressed" question when I meet with clients.

As long as they ASK me to dress down, I could drop the vest but still wear a tie.

But many of the events in the D.C. area are rather upscale and I think require a little dress up.

To each his own opinion. Me...I'll stay high brow thank you and attract the clientele that appreciate that.

Lord, has the economy lowered some of our before long held standards? I hope not!
 
personally
I wear a tux at every event...
I skip the jacket and tie for less formal events
and go with much less formal, or something specific if requested.
I have no problem with others who do it differently...
I just don't think it's the right way to go for a performer at a special event.

If I have any issues with those who DO dress comfortably...
it's probably because I am jealous.
 
dunlopj said:
Your appearance and reputation are on the line at every event. Why chance it by being lazy in your dress code? The two conditions are intertwined.
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My reputation these days is "Mr. Casual".

Weddings are parties just like all the other ... parties ... are. The bride and groom throw them to celebrate and that's why the guests are there. The best ones I have ever been involved with are the ones that are casual for everybody.

Also, its an Elks Lodge for crap's sake. It is not the Ritz. Jim, you've seen the lodge; formality is just not in us. We don't even get dressed up when we cater an event (I know, I've been involved).

I'm not lowering my standards in regard to quality. I'm just making the whole thing less formal. If they want formal, they can look elsewhere.
 
Steve:

I'll put your link on my site. Maybe they'll book you.

I don't get why you don't get it. From the website they know my dress is not formal. They also know that if they want formal there are other DJs they can go to. Basically, if they want formal then I don't want their business and will not take on their business. What part of that don't you understand?

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Your link is on my page.
 
Steve LeBlanc said:
Tom - it's a wedding, not a deer hunter ball

@ Rob - it's a wedding, not a deer hunters ball. Why can't YOU dress smartly, given that it is a formal event.

"lax" would have been a better choice of words....
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Remember this pic?

It was from a recent wedding I did.... they wanted the casual look...

I'm sorry but, catagorizing a persons dress as either being lazy or having a "deer hunter ball" look is BS.


No one gave a crap if I wore a tie or a polo.... I recieved nothing but bravo zulu's from client, guest and staff both on appearance and music played.
 

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Steve:

I'll put your link on my site. Maybe they'll book you.

I don't get why you don't get it. From the website they know my dress is not formal. They also know that if they want formal there are other DJs they can go to. Basically, if they want formal then I don't want their business and will not take on their business. What part of that don't you understand?

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Your link is on my page.
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Tom - Thanks, but no thanks....

I've seen many tear apart posters- they have illegal libraries, crap equipment, present themselves poorly...In general all of these practices in your view diminish the overall perception of the professional dj industry.

Some spend thousands to buy the latest gear; go anal about wires, build/buy facades then choose not to present themselves in the best way possible. Why? I don't get it

@ Rob.,...you want to command higher and higher fees; don't you think to do that you have to present an image that is commensurate with that ; not a bowling shirt....

I'm not saying a penguin suit; the other extreme doesn't cut it...

You client may not care; you should (and perhaps some guests did...ever think about that?)

The venue might even wonder; they just might recommend the fellow in the dress shirt....:tricool:

It's interesting that neither one of you can give me a valid reason (from a business perspective) for your point of view (cause I want to isn't a valid one)
 
Damn...what a great read...some very high soap boxes here.

Myself, living here in the great corn belt, Amishvile US of A, I have the luxury of wearing just about anything I wish to wear. ;)

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But, on a more serious side; my clients dictate what I wear. Most want a more casual event and prefer our polo/slack combination. A few would like us a bit more formal with long sleeve/tie/slacks/tux vest (but no jackets).
 
jokerswild said:
When did wearing a nice polo and slacks equate to lazy that's pur bull ****.
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Forgive my poor choice of words.

You have your way and I say bravo.

I have my way which works for me - bravo to me as well.

I just can't go that casual at a reception. Polo shirt and khaki's at a bull roast? Certainly.

One final thought - your wedding client asks you to dress down. A guest at said event sees you and loves everything about you EXCEPT for the way you dressed and because of that does NOT come up and ask for your card.

I've NEVER been called out for being too dressed up, but I can bet I'd be looked at differently by guests if I went casual at a formal event.

Appearance matters! I'm goofy looking enough as it is and need all the help I can get.
 
Well, Steve, the venue in my case is the Elks Lodge that I am a member of. I am also an officer of the lodge. It is the only venue I will be operating in.

Our lodge is an informal place all the way around. Our "formal" rituals, that some lodges dress in suits and tuxedos for, are characterized by the polos we wear. We have broken the "tradition" of formality in many of the things we do for a casual approach just to provide a relaxed atmosphere.

That is what I am bringing to the DJ service I offer at the lodge and only at the lodge.

Maybe you didn't see the part I had included in previous posts that the lodge is the only place I DJ for pay these days.
 
If the customer knows about the "casual dress" it's their choice to hire who they want. If one presents themselves as being a professional, tells the B&G or whatever type of event he'll show up with a tux or a suit and then shows up with the polo shirt and khaki's you've got a problem.
 
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