Cheap moving heads

tunes4046 said:

I generally agree with you however in ricks case, a permanent installation, I think he will have better results as he is not transporting them all over

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I agree. The chances of getting lucky increase with not having to move them. I still believe chances are better with buying good gear. I also find good gear often ends up being less expensive to use overall as it lasts much longer and holds resale value, even when 6 times more expensive initially. Not always, but more often than not. Add the less headaches and the time saving not having to diagnose/fix/replace, the initial cost savings often quickly fade

rickryan.com said:

I know in this case we're equating the Chauvets are "better quality". In reality, I've already had to send 2 of these units back in for service.

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Yes, it happens. In my experience, it just happens a lot more with cheap gear. I'm certainly not saying that every thing I've bought cheap has been a disaster and every name brand item I bought has been perfect. But in general terms, I rarely have any issues since I decided that good quality gear would be the only thing I use. Ive found companies that not only make great gear, but in the unlikely event of an issue, they take care of it quickly. Much less headaches for me

I also understand that what works for me does not mean it works for everyone else.

BTW, I love getting your updates and seeing the venue grow, my friend

I will admit that everything I have purchased from ROCKVILLE has been a solid value, and worked out great.

My brother bought a couple of 8" Rockville Speakers for sound in 2 additional rooms for a wedding a couple weeks ago. He said they worked out great, and the sound quality was better from each speaker than the sound quality from his American Audio 8GO BT speaker. Those two Rockville speakers only cost $194.99 together. $5 less than MSRP originally on the American Audio speaker he purchased.

My two cheap moving head lights I got off of Ebay years back still work great! My ADJ Mini Pocket Spots have some issues with them, and I used them way less at events than I used the cheap ebay moving heads.

I got a call today from a guy looking for a transfer case on his 2014 Mercedes. Only had 116K miles on it, and the transfer case went. We don't work on Mercedes transfer cases because Mercedes does everything they can so remanufacturers can't have access to their cores and parts. Mercedes dealer quoted the guy $4,200 to replace it. I also got a call today from a guy with a base model Chevy Silverado from 2000. Has 360K miles on it. Finally having to replace the transfer case on it. Cost for a remanufactured TC from us...$695 + $125 round trip shipping. $820. The most expensive Chevy transfer case I sell is $1,795, and that is a rare unit.

I get calls from people all the time with BMWs and Mercedes who are desperately trying to find a cheaper option for a TC. They are basically stuck with going through the dealer and spending $3,500+ or trying to find a used unit from a junk yard, and their vehicles are usually under 12 years old, and under 150K miles needing to replace the transfer case. People with Chevys, Fords...even sometimes DODGE are usually over 12 years old, and well above 150K miles on their vehicle.

I don't tell people over the phone they have to pay to play when it comes to buying a Mercedes, Audi, or BMW, but they really do have to open their pockets and pay the piper to own those vehicles long term.

I still have a $10 pair of Skullcandy head phones in one of my DJ bags. I haven't even used them this year, but I know they still work just fine.

It seems to me the cheaper products are typically longer lasting, and are far cheaper to fix when parts go bad.

I purchased a $80 pair of Skechers a few years back. The soles were becoming unglued, and a hole was forming on the side of the shoe after only wearing for 3 months. I was mad. Went right back to Reebok Shoes. I buy a pair of Reebok DMX walking shoes twice a year. Regular price is $70. I usually get them 40% off. I only buy every 6 months because the memory foam just doesn't feel as nice inside, but outside of shoes are durable as can be. I have one pair that is almost 3 years old that I use on bad weather days when I know I won't be doing a lot of walking (I rotate 4 pairs of sneakers to keep them lasting longer)

Not always the case with every product, and mileage varies with everything, but generally speaking I seem to have better experiences, and ROI with my purchase with lower priced products.

I agree with Scott. I have a question. What are things you bought that you regret you did? I bought a dual cordless mic system from Gem Sound and another from Samson. That's a Sam Ash brand and they both were pure junk. I should have listened to the guy at KPODJ and spent more on quality dual cordless mics instead of Samson. I bought 4 cheap speakers that had wheels on them from downtown Newark, NJ when I first started. I used them with a home base amp. They lasted for years. I was doing a backyard party and something in one of the speakers blew. There are probably more. I just can't remember being in business for 34 years.

DJ Ricky B said:

I will admit that everything I have purchased from ROCKVILLE has been a solid value, and worked out great.

My brother bought a couple of 8" Rockville Speakers for sound in 2 additional rooms for a wedding a couple weeks ago. He said they worked out great, and the sound quality was better from each speaker than the sound quality from his American Audio 8GO BT speaker. Those two Rockville speakers only cost $194.99 together. $5 less than MSRP originally on the American Audio speaker he purchased.

My two cheap moving head lights I got off of Ebay years back still work great! My ADJ Mini Pocket Spots have some issues with them, and I used them way less at events than I used the cheap ebay moving heads.

I got a call today from a guy looking for a transfer case on his 2014 Mercedes. Only had 116K miles on it, and the transfer case went. We don't work on Mercedes transfer cases because Mercedes does everything they can so remanufacturers can't have access to their cores and parts. Mercedes dealer quoted the guy $4,200 to replace it. I also got a call today from a guy with a base model Chevy Silverado from 2000. Has 360K miles on it. Finally having to replace the transfer case on it. Cost for a remanufactured TC from us...$695 + $125 round trip shipping. $820. The most expensive Chevy transfer case I sell is $1,795, and that is a rare unit.

I get calls from people all the time with BMWs and Mercedes who are desperately trying to find a cheaper option for a TC. They are basically stuck with going through the dealer and spending $3,500+ or trying to find a used unit from a junk yard, and their vehicles are usually under 12 years old, and under 150K miles needing to replace the transfer case. People with Chevys, Fords...even sometimes DODGE are usually over 12 years old, and well above 150K miles on their vehicle.

I don't tell people over the phone they have to pay to play when it comes to buying a Mercedes, Audi, or BMW, but they really do have to open their pockets and pay the piper to own those vehicles long term.

I still have a $10 pair of Skullcandy head phones in one of my DJ bags. I haven't even used them this year, but I know they still work just fine.

It seems to me the cheaper products are typically longer lasting, and are far cheaper to fix when parts go bad.

I purchased a $80 pair of Skechers a few years back. The soles were becoming unglued, and a hole was forming on the side of the shoe after only wearing for 3 months. I was mad. Went right back to Reebok Shoes. I buy a pair of Reebok DMX walking shoes twice a year. Regular price is $70. I usually get them 40% off. I only buy every 6 months because the memory foam just doesn't feel as nice inside, but outside of shoes are durable as can be. I have one pair that is almost 3 years old that I use on bad weather days when I know I won't be doing a lot of walking (I rotate 4 pairs of sneakers to keep them lasting longer)

Not always the case with every product, and mileage varies with everything, but generally speaking I seem to have better experiences, and ROI with my purchase with lower priced products.

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ive never owned a Audi, Mercedes’, or BMW. But I know people who have. Those brands have immense brand loyalty because they offer a great experience.
The extra cost of a great vehicle experience is not something I’m interested in paying for. But I’m pretty sure a new Mercedes would be more pleasurable to drive than my Buick. But My Buick is fine for me. No one buys a luxury car like these because the ROI is good.

Shoes: I tend to buy expensive dress shoes that are stylish but comfortable. But with tennis shoes, I’ll buy cheap one. Some people swear by their great sneakers. They just don’t mean that much to me.

We all have priorities of how we spent our money. For a dj business, buying cheap equipment to try to maximize profits is certainly an option. But for me, my experience has been that great name brand gear gives me all the positives I mentioned earlier and makes it a worthwhile investment. Everything has trade offs. Yes, the initial investment is larger. Yes there’s always the possibility that something less expensive could have done the job. But all the positives far outweigh the negatives for me.

a dj friend of mine only buys cheap gear, has no problem spending time working on equipment, and thinks I’m crazy for only buying top notch gear. I find spending time on sales and marketing is more beneficial than fixing equipment.

Scott Hanna said:

ive never owned a Audi, Mercedes’, or BMW. But I know people who have. Those brands have immense brand loyalty because they offer a great experience.
The extra cost of a great vehicle experience is not something I’m interested in paying for. But I’m pretty sure a new Mercedes would be more pleasurable to drive than my Buick. But My Buick is fine for me. No one buys a luxury car like these because the ROI is good.

Shoes: I tend to buy expensive dress shoes that are stylish but comfortable. But with tennis shoes, I’ll buy cheap one. Some people swear by their great sneakers. They just don’t mean that much to me.

We all have priorities of how we spent our money. For a dj business, buying cheap equipment to try to maximize profits is certainly an option. But for me, my experience has been that great name brand gear gives me all the positives I mentioned earlier and makes it a worthwhile investment. Everything has trade offs. Yes, the initial investment is larger. Yes there’s always the possibility that something less expensive could have done the job. But all the positives far outweigh the negatives for me.

a dj friend of mine only buys cheap gear, has no problem spending time working on equipment, and thinks I’m crazy for only buying top notch gear. I find spending time on sales and marketing is more beneficial than fixing equipment.

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What I find is name brand gear has a reputation to keep up to keep people buying their products. Now those companies make lower end stuff and high grade stuff. Their low grade stuff is usually the other cheap companies high grade stuff. For example Pyramid still sells DJ gear. I have never bought any of their stuff and never will because I know it's low end junk. I know this because of my years experience and the mistakes I've made. Now someone just starting out may not know what is good grade gear and cheap junk. They buy stuff thinking they are saving money when they are losing money. Normally that low end gear won't last long and they will be looking to buy something else that will work better and last longer. Occasionally you might run across a deal but normally you pay for what you get. These things I learned through trial and error. Also sometimes I have bought stuff in an emergency I normally wouldn't buy. I was low on money and just bought it even though I know there is a better product costing more.

rickryan.com said:

Update, I got the other 2 cheap movers installed. That gives me 4 U'Kings, 2 Chauvet 255s, 1 Martin Acrobat and 2 30-watt chauvet scanners. I know it's not as good as having them DMX controlled (they're all sound active) but it's a very good look for the dance floor. I'll likely re-visit this setup a bit later on but for now let's just say that I'm very pleased with it. It'll be interesting to see how long these U'Kings last. So far, it's a lot of bang for the buck.

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DJ Ricky B said:

I will admit that everything I have purchased from ROCKVILLE has been a solid value, and worked out great.

My brother bought a couple of 8" Rockville Speakers for sound in 2 additional rooms for a wedding a couple weeks ago. He said they worked out great, and the sound quality was better from each speaker than the sound quality from his American Audio 8GO BT speaker. Those two Rockville speakers only cost $194.99 together. $5 less than MSRP originally on the American Audio speaker he purchased.

My two cheap moving head lights I got off of Ebay years back still work great! My ADJ Mini Pocket Spots have some issues with them, and I used them way less at events than I used the cheap ebay moving heads.

I got a call today from a guy looking for a transfer case on his 2014 Mercedes. Only had 116K miles on it, and the transfer case went. We don't work on Mercedes transfer cases because Mercedes does everything they can so remanufacturers can't have access to their cores and parts. Mercedes dealer quoted the guy $4,200 to replace it. I also got a call today from a guy with a base model Chevy Silverado from 2000. Has 360K miles on it. Finally having to replace the transfer case on it. Cost for a remanufactured TC from us...$695 + $125 round trip shipping. $820. The most expensive Chevy transfer case I sell is $1,795, and that is a rare unit.

I get calls from people all the time with BMWs and Mercedes who are desperately trying to find a cheaper option for a TC. They are basically stuck with going through the dealer and spending $3,500+ or trying to find a used unit from a junk yard, and their vehicles are usually under 12 years old, and under 150K miles needing to replace the transfer case. People with Chevys, Fords...even sometimes DODGE are usually over 12 years old, and well above 150K miles on their vehicle.

I don't tell people over the phone they have to pay to play when it comes to buying a Mercedes, Audi, or BMW, but they really do have to open their pockets and pay the piper to own those vehicles long term.

I still have a $10 pair of Skullcandy head phones in one of my DJ bags. I haven't even used them this year, but I know they still work just fine.

It seems to me the cheaper products are typically longer lasting, and are far cheaper to fix when parts go bad.

I purchased a $80 pair of Skechers a few years back. The soles were becoming unglued, and a hole was forming on the side of the shoe after only wearing for 3 months. I was mad. Went right back to Reebok Shoes. I buy a pair of Reebok DMX walking shoes twice a year. Regular price is $70. I usually get them 40% off. I only buy every 6 months because the memory foam just doesn't feel as nice inside, but outside of shoes are durable as can be. I have one pair that is almost 3 years old that I use on bad weather days when I know I won't be doing a lot of walking (I rotate 4 pairs of sneakers to keep them lasting longer)

Not always the case with every product, and mileage varies with everything, but generally speaking I seem to have better experiences, and ROI with my purchase with lower priced products.

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You were comparing Rockville speakers to American Audio speakers. I wouldn't consider either one of those speakers high grade speakers entry level speakers that someone who doesn't know any better just starting out would buy. If you were in a backyard for just a regular cookout they would be fine. I would never use either one for an event I was doing for a client.

rickryan.com said:

Update, I got the other 2 cheap movers installed. That gives me 4 U'Kings, 2 Chauvet 255s, 1 Martin Acrobat and 2 30-watt chauvet scanners. I know it's not as good as having them DMX controlled (they're all sound active) but it's a very good look for the dance floor. I'll likely re-visit this setup a bit later on but for now let's just say that I'm very pleased with it. It'll be interesting to see how long these U'Kings last. So far, it's a lot of bang for the buck.

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I hope it works out great for for you, buddy!

I have been looking at U King moving heads and possibly looking at getting 2 of them to use with 2 lights that we already have that are a matching pair to put on a light stand. Have the 2 moving heads on the outside and the other 2 lights on the inside.

sawdust123 said:

All this talk about cheap moving heads and no one has brought up these.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/JubilantSimpleIcterinewarbler-mobile.mp4

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My grandmother had one of those sat on the back of her stove for as far back as any of the grandkids can remember. I swear that things head moved even when nobody was around. It was borderline creepy, lol. I had completely forgot about it until you posted that.... amazing.... lol.