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Tunes4046 suggested we should have checked the level of gas in the generator. Now remember there was no extra gas in a can just incase the generator ran out of gas. So what would you have done in that situation? Leave the event and go get more gas to keep the event going?

The organizer called a guy that I guess he got the generators for him to bring more gas. When he got there he told him he should have gotten everything he needed for the event when he picked up the generators.
I always I need to attempt to be aware of anything that could possibly affect my performance if possible. I would have looked at the fuel gauge when I arrived and mentioned it seemed rather low to the person in charge, not my responsibility to fix the problem but taking a very small extra step sure makes my day much better
 
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I actually learned this when I was a tween in NY. I worked for several defense contractors in NY during the 80s. All my colleagues (EEs and technicians) knew this mnemonic. It is an EE thing and I am the youngest of three EEs in my family. I hear it out in CA with older EEs.
Ditto. I learned it in NY also.
 
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Here's where it's at. Some things have improved over the years because someone tried something to see if that would work and improve things. This applies to many different products and services. Some things will and have improved. Some things remain the same because it's perfect and don't need improvement.

What this subject reminds me of are the DJs who did the event in Branch Brook Park one year. The gear they used was passive Yorkville tops and subs. Along with Crown amps. The music kept cutting in and out because of a simple reason. They didn't know the proper wires to use for that setup. Instead of using either quarter inch or XLR wires. They used old wires that you twist together for a connection. That's old school that you don't use for a setup like that. Especially if you claim to be a professional DJ and been doing this for a number of years. The setup they were using suggested they had been doing this for a while. They should have known better. Maybe after buying all this gear they couldn't afford to buy professional quality wires to get the job done so that issue didn't happen.

The following year we did it and used the proper wires so we didn't have that problem. That's because of our years of experience and investing in the proper wires to get the job done right.


Hmm. I seem to remember someone not knowing which cable was needed to connect his phone to his controller. I also remember visiting a park event that you were doing and your system cutting in and out.
 
Hmm. I seem to remember someone not knowing which cable was needed to connect his phone to his controller. I also remember visiting a park event that you were doing and your system cutting in and out.
We've never had an issue with the sound cutting in and out at an event outside.

I believe the event you're talking about was in Weechic Park where the crowd was not a large crowd. The next one we did in the park there was easily over 150 people who attended that one.
 
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I'll say it again. The sound didn't cut off. Like I said the first one we did wasn't a large crowd. It certainly wasn't just 10 people. It wasn't a super large crowd. Just mediocre honestly. After word spread about the first one and how the DJs played, the second one was through the roof! .
150 people is not through the roof that’s an average night at a wedding for me
 
150 people is not through the roof that’s an average night at a wedding for me
The thing is that was a guess. I know it was way more than that and please remember you said a wedding. This was not a wedding. Compared to the first crowd for the first time we did it, this was WAY better with more people. The sound wasn't cutting in and out all day. As you put it 2 minutes if it did happen.
 
The thing is that was a guess. I know it was way more than that and please remember you said a wedding. This was not a wedding. Compared to the first crowd for the first time we did it, this was WAY better with more people. The sound wasn't cutting in and out all day. As you put it 2 minutes if it did happen.
It’s weird how you always talk around facts that you admit were a problem in a previous post about the event, it’s almost like your deny facts much like an addict does
 
I'd like to, or probably could improve my cable management , I currently store 99% of them in a plastic container , I want to move to only bringing the cables I need with me and leaving the rest and the plastic container in the van.
 
I'd like to, or probably could improve my cable management , I currently store 99% of them in a plastic container , I want to move to only bringing the cables I need with me and leaving the rest and the plastic container in the van.
That’s what I do I have the cables I need for 99% of events in a small cable bag, I have an old mechanic tool box with sliding drawers in the trailer with spares and stuff i rarely use
 
I want to move to only bringing the cables I need with me and leaving the rest and the plastic container in the van.
Yup, I do that. I don't have much use for RCA cables these days yet still have a ton of them. My 1/4" cables are only used when I deal with live acts so they don't come to many gigs. My 100' cables stay at home most of the time too as do my Neutrik cables if I am not using passive speakers. I have plenty of short cables but these are mostly used in places where they remain permanently wired (e.g. in racks). I don't need additional ones of those at gigs. That still leaves me with plenty of cables (XLR, AC) in 10', 15', 20', 25', 30' and 40' lengths. I don't need most if I'm not doing live sound. I bring what I think I need and a few extra to deal with a couple of broken cables or an unexpected hookup.
 
I always I need to attempt to be aware of anything that could possibly affect my performance if possible. I would have looked at the fuel gauge when I arrived and mentioned it seemed rather low to the person in charge, not my responsibility to fix the problem but taking a very small extra step sure makes my day much better
Sure, but I seriously doubt that was the issue.
It's far more likely the generator was small and only had a short run time and needed to be refueled multiple times.

The only SAFE way to do that is to turn it off and then restart. So, what everyone is claiming "looks bad" is in fact - PROPER PROCEDURE.
Disastrous results by people attempting to refuel still running or hot generators is precisely why they have been banned at public events in almost every major city.
 
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Let me say this. The real issue is not having enough fuel to cover the event in the event if the generator ran out of fuel. The generator ran out of gas and there was no fuel as a backup. So even if I checked the gage and told him about the problem, who was going to get the gas? We were there to perform the event. That was the reason why we were there. Just that. No more no less.
 
Let me say this. The real issue is not having enough fuel to cover the event in the event if the generator ran out of fuel. The generator ran out of gas and there was no fuel as a backup. So even if I checked the gage and told him about the problem, who was going to get the gas? We were there to perform the event. That was the reason why we were there. Just that. No more no less.
Of course why would you want to put in any extra effort to attempt to improve your reputation
 
Of course why would you want to put in any extra effort to attempt to improve your reputation
Again we were never contracted to have anything to do with any generator for the event. Please remember what I said. There was no gas can filled with gas as a backup. That's what should have been there even if it never was used. So stop saying we should have seen ways to prevent it from happening. I know you're never going to see it our way and that's fine. You have a right to feel the way you do.

Now if we caused something to happen to prevent us from doing our job for a while, then I could accept your criticism. In this case I don't agree with you and let me tell you that what happened didn't affect our pay. We received all the money due to us. The last one we did this year the generator didn't run out of gas. I don't know why but it didn't.
 
Again we were never contracted to have anything to do with any generator for the event.
That is a key difference between you and the more successful DJs. You may not be responsible for the gen but you are dependent on the power from it and you did nothing to insure you would have it. It would have taken you 30 seconds to see if the gas was low and then maybe another minute to find a responsible person to report that more was needed.

I depend on the outlets I use at a venue to be properly wired and grounded. However, I never trust that they are. I always test the outlets first. I don't need my gear to get fried because the outlet is at 208V instead of 120. I also check to see what else is on the same circuit. And, I make sure to have enough AC cables to run power from another circuit if necessary.