I know what a "worther" is, but where does one

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I think you would do better to get the information from the original sources.

Mark Ferrell, Petter Merry, Randy Barth, et.al. are filtered versions of material from long time self-help authors and speakers like Zig Zigler, Tony Robins, Wayne Dwyer, and more.

Start with Zig Zigler "See You At the Top" and just follow the resource recommendations from there.

Cauton: about 2/3 of all self help material is devoted to emphasizing your continual need to seek out more self help material. Choose wisely.
 
No, About a month ago, I came to the conclusion, I can't do it alone... so right now, any and all options are open. My goal is to be out of my current job by spring.
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You're right. You can't do it alone. You are going to need a supportig cast in the form of associates with whom you can employee as needed and share work. There really is no such thing as a full time single-op.

To keep you calendar full you need to preserve a continually growing roster of receurring clients. You will need reliable people with integrity to cover your double bookings. You won't need them to be employees - but you do need them to preserve your client relationship.

Referring jobs out doesn't preserve your client relationship and it doesn't grow your business.
 
Proformance said:
You're right. You can't do it alone. There really is no such thing as a full time single-op.
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Bob, that was in reference to opening a BBQ joint! :sqwink:
 
ncognito66 said:
If Papa goes to the dark side.....how long will it be before we find out Peter Merry is really his father? :rofl:
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Really... no worries. But one can never have too much information.
 
Really... no worries. But one can never have too much information.
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Luke, trust your feelings...


The dark side has many evil ways! Once they get you hooked, you keep coming back for more "feel good", then more, then more, and more... Until yer finally hooked on crack (erm, I meant crap).


Anything you need to know about the DJ biz, is already in yer head Son. Your a successful guy, make a good living, have a nice family, etc. That shows you have the knowhow to multi-task, and do business.

Don't get involved in a cult -- just jump in the ring, and win the fights... ;)
 
Along with reading from Authors in the DJ business you should probably look outside the business also. You can never know too much

The one thing to remember is it dosent matter if its Zig or Dexter Yager almost all motivators are trying to sell you something most times you have to seperate the wheat from the chaff. The other thing is the books and the tapes are only as good as what you get out of them. If you are not willing to learn and acceptand apply the ideas you might as well send me the money and I'll PM you every day telling you how great you are.

I would advise anyone to start with Dale Carnegie How to win friends and influence people and follow up with Les Brown and Dexter Yager then mabye some Zig
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Luke, trust your feelings...


The dark side has many evil ways! Once they get you hooked, you keep coming back for more "feel good", then more, then more, and more... Until yer finally hooked on crack (erm, I meant crap).


Anything you need to know about the DJ biz, is already in yer head Son. Your a successful guy, make a good living, have a nice family, etc. That shows you have the knowhow to multi-task, and do business.

Don't get involved in a cult -- just jump in the ring, and win the fights... ;)
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Rick weren't you Chuck's dad ???? :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Luke, trust your feelings...


The dark side has many evil ways! Once they get you hooked, you keep coming back for more "feel good", then more, then more, and more... Until yer finally hooked on crack (erm, I meant crap).


Anything you need to know about the DJ biz, is already in yer head Son. Your a successful guy, make a good living, have a nice family, etc. That shows you have the knowhow to multi-task, and do business.

Don't get involved in a cult -- just jump in the ring, and win the fights... ;)
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Interesting philosophy.

So, if I understand this correctly...

Dj's that look for outside help from the "feel good" "crack (crap) addicts) are a "cult"?

Why do you feel this way?
 
Jeff Romard said:
I would advise anyone to start with Dale Carnegie How to win friends and influence people and follow up with Les Brown and Dexter Yager then mabye some Zig
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I've always gotten good advice from my friends Jack, Jim and Jose.:sqwink:

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Jeff Romard said:
Along with reading from Authors in the DJ business you should probably look outside the business also. You can never know too much

The one thing to remember is it dosent matter if its Zig or Dexter Yager almost all motivators are trying to sell you something most times you have to seperate the wheat from the chaff. The other thing is the books and the tapes are only as good as what you get out of them. If you are not willing to learn and acceptand apply the ideas you might as well send me the money and I'll PM you every day telling you how great you are.

I would advise anyone to start with Dale Carnegie How to win friends and influence people and follow up with Les Brown and Dexter Yager then mabye some Zig
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Dexter Yeager... now there's a name I haven't heard in a few years. One of Amway's great success stories!
 
Flyingdjdan said:
Interesting philosophy.

So, if I understand this correctly...

Dj's that look for outside help from the "feel good" "crack (crap) addicts) are a "cult"?

Why do you feel this way?
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Just to piss you off Dan :sqlaugh: :sqwink:


Actually, my feelings are thus:

The people that sell "feel good" material, have been around since the beginning of time. They are often referred to as snake oil salesman, because they really have nothing to sell, so they recycle, and put into different words, knowledge which has existed since day one (maybe day 2).

All the business principles they teach, are known by anybody with a high school diploma (who didn't skip all the time).

I've seen a few seminars, read lots, and watched a few. They preach common sense, which is already available to anyone with a mind, willing to use it.


More often than not (IMHO), they preach your continuing education (read: buy more stuff from me).

I find many of them (not all), to be as bad as the guys from Nigeria... ;)
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Just to piss you off Dan :sqlaugh: :sqwink:


Actually, my feelings are thus:

The people that sell "feel good" material, have been around since the beginning of time. They are often referred to as snake oil salesman, because they really have nothing to sell, so they recycle, and put into different words, knowledge which has existed since day one (maybe day 2).

All the business principles they teach, are known by anybody with a high school diploma (who didn't skip all the time).

I've seen a few seminars, read lots, and watched a few. They preach common sense, which is already available to anyone with a mind, willing to use it.


More often than not (IMHO), they preach your continuing education (read: buy more stuff from me).

I find many of them (not all), to be as bad as the guys from Nigeria... ;)
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Nope, not pissed. Just curious. I fully understand that I am in the minority when it comes to the "cult". Try to steer clear of too much debate.

I understand the "repackaging" thought. Many things in the "self help" and "motivation" are the same things said differently. Sometimes, it is the different shape (presentation) that makes the cereal more consumable.

I do, however, disagree with that all snake oil. Some medications did end up working quite well.

I guess I skipped too many days of school.
 
Been trying to avoid this mess but here goes...

1. Don't claim you are trying to assist the industry without being honest and telling that you are making money and expenses are being covered by others
2. Don't claim you are the originator of something when it was done long before most of us ever put a needle to a record
3. Don't Disprespect what others have done before you
4. Learn how to take a compliment and know that for every time you are complimented, the only way to become stronger is to be critiqued. Now, if you're so sure about yourself, you shouldn't threaten others in private messages.
5. Don't server me shrimp and tell me it's lobster...
6. Do take solice in the fact that many of us realize what you are doing and applaud you until you take any criticism personally then you are exactly what all claim you are...
 
Love2DJ said:
Been trying to avoid this mess but here goes...
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:sqbiggrin: There is no "mess" here..... Honestly, after these folks have known me for 2+ years, I'm surprised that anybody would think I'm going to the "dark" side.....

Basically, I have been a paid hobbyist for the last 2 years... ( though I did pay my taxes ).... But in 2008 I plan to do much more DJing and leave my FT job, hence the desire to figure out more ways to give more quality and value to my customers, and make a little more cash while doing it. I'm not going to be a FT DJ, though. It wouldn't be fun any longer if I were.

No big deal.
 
No big deal.
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Oh sure! That's easy for you to say...

Here we are, trying to raise our children well, expose them to debate, blah, blah, blah :)

The thanx we get -- from the kids these days... <sigh>
 
Chuck I get ya and admire your every efforts to improve what you are doing and certainly relate to leaving a job though I was planning to go now 8 months ago. It was tough to leave 50,000 behind but its definitely worth it and I too will be finding every gem available to gain success with it. Learning from anyone even if you gain from those who you might not admire is to benefit ones self and who is worth it more than ones self.
 
DougF said:
Dexter Yeager... now there's a name I haven't heard in a few years. One of Amway's great success stories!
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Yup thats him. Good author and great speaker too but again you have to seperate the wheat from the chaff
 
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