Hiding behind the facade?

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Interact with the crowd? Approachable? Love to be a part of the action? Clean looks? Limited set up space? Old school?

You must be saying that anyone who owns or uses a facade haven't figured out how to do all the above because they're so mentally and physically handicapped that they haven't developed methods and strategies to get out of our little cages nor learned how to rearrange panels so they'll fit anywhere?

Any bets those who pooh-pooh facades with these observations have never actually used or tried a really good one?

How about this?

A consistent, clean, and uniquely designed presentation is every bit a trademark as a company logo, a business name, an ad. Vendors, clients, and banquet halls pay attention to this as it impacts how they look too. When someone walks into a room and sees the presentation/setup, they should automatically recognize it's you even without a sign, a business card, or ???

If the approach toward setup space is gumby-like (take what's given and be happy), it is clear not enough effort was taken with the client and the facility in advance of the event to prevent such detrimental happenstances, especially if the DJs schedule is active and vibrant and will be working at these same places over and over again for the length of their careers.

Lastly, a wise and prepared performer will have their setup requirements clearly defined in their contracts and what the results might be if not strictly provided BUT have an alternative game plan for those rare instances when dealing with a dolt of a manager.
 
Is anyone else noticing that with the age of computer djing, setups are getting even more convoluted? Many could benefit from a facade to hide their monstrosities.
 
Mark : Another excellent point and the same holds true for the reverse, hiding their mini-docks.

If perception is reality, and if bigger means better, a small setup in our eyes means fast, easy, sleek, simple, and efficient...but what about the other side?

"I paid $1,000 for that? Cheesh, I could've used my i-pod for that and saved a bundle."

Yes. Add the mystery.

"What's he/she doing back there? What's he/she using? How the hell did he/she do that?"

"I am the Wizard. Pay no attention to the man behind the screen."
 
agreed with cap.

I don't think putting a facade in front of the gear makes anyone less approachable.
perhaps if the facade was 7 feet tall and no one knew you were there, or if you sat down behind the facade where no one could see you, but I think what you say and your body language is what makes people feel you are approachable, not a facade that makes the equipment look neater.
 
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one of my employees...being approached by a child at a show. Even bending down to talk to the child...he is above the facade...when he stand...he is well above it....and approachable.

I've seen some pictures of other set ups that don't need a facade...and if you don't need one, don't get one....but if you think you shouldn't get one just because people will think you are less approachable, you'd be incorrect.
 

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Interact with the crowd? Approachable? Love to be a part of the action? Clean looks? Limited set up space? Old school?

You must be saying that anyone who owns or uses a facade haven't figured out how to do all the above because they're so mentally and physically handicapped that they haven't developed methods and strategies to get out of our little cages nor learned how to rearrange panels so they'll fit anywhere?

Any bets those who pooh-pooh facades with these observations have never actually used or tried a really good one?

How about this?

A consistent, clean, and uniquely designed presentation is every bit a trademark as a company logo, a business name, an ad. Vendors, clients, and banquet halls pay attention to this as it impacts how they look too. When someone walks into a room and sees the presentation/setup, they should automatically recognize it's you even without a sign, a business card, or ???

If the approach toward setup space is gumby-like (take what's given and be happy), it is clear not enough effort was taken with the client and the facility in advance of the event to prevent such detrimental happenstances, especially if the DJs schedule is active and vibrant and will be working at these same places over and over again for the length of their careers.

Lastly, a wise and prepared performer will have their setup requirements clearly defined in their contracts and what the results might be if not strictly provided BUT have an alternative game plan for those rare instances when dealing with a dolt of a manager.


so mentally and physically handicapped?
gEE That's a bit harsh, don't you think? I truly believe one can state an opinion, and not run the risk of being called a retard.

The moment one posts on these boards, one runs the risk of being subject to criticism, not subject to abuse.

Some like the reverend look, others preffer the practical approach. See the piano on your picture? That piano has many keys, and each key plays a different tune. If all the keys on that piano would play the same tune, it wouldn't need such a bulky case, to host one cord. Besides it would be so boring. So you want a grand corral around you when you dj? so be it... screw it, hire a masonry guy and bring a ton of bricks to your events.
 
We don't need a facade. We stack the rack cases on a dolly board, make all connections and hang a custom-made drape over it. Shirl made the drape for less than half of what those skirts retailers want. It looks nicer, too.

Fred:

I've seen your rig but didn't notice how the drape fits in. Do you use velcro?

With the way my rack is set up, I think I could benefit from a drape to hide the wires in the back.

The only thing I use the table given me for is paperwork and drinks. So, essentially, with a drape, I could drop the facade and that would be one less thing to carry (and more room for the 42" LCD).
 
DeeJayRig : Withdrawn. No need to start anything unproductive.
 
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one of my employees...being approached by a child at a show. Even bending down to talk to the child...he is above the facade...when he stand...he is well above it....and approachable.

I've seen some pictures of other set ups that don't need a facade...and if you don't need one, don't get one....but if you think you shouldn't get one just because people will think you are less approachable, you'd be incorrect.

I Scott, i totally understand your point. I am sure that if people really want to get to you, they will, even if you're in a platform above the ground, and all in all I believe it boils down to styles.

On the other hand, writing on these boards it's like thinking out loud, and it stills One's opinion, without being rude, the fact that some resent that expression is totally a different ball game.

I have considered, explored, tried the facade, and went as far as building my own, out of 3/4" plywood, very nice, I paid $250 to have it sprayed with the same stuff they spray truck bed liners. I found out that by doing so, then I was forced to carry a table, in addition to limit my mobility it added more stuff to carry and to set up.

Maybe some day I revamp the idea of carrying one (I gave the other one away).

I didn't mean to clown anyone, that was not my intention, much less call anyone a mentally challenged individual, that's plain rude, unnecessary and unacceptable in my book, since I volunteer my time twice a year to play at their events.

At my age I like to travel very light.

Regards Mr Hanna
 
okay guys I appreciate efforts to adjust in a heated conversation it proves we as a group here at ODJT have proper intentions at all times when posting naturally as humans we can disagree at any moment ask my girlfriend. However its how individuals adjust and let it cool down that separates the slugfest forums from one which we prefer sharing and comradery amongst our members. I trust this thread will continue to head in a positive direction. Thanks for allowing me a moment.
 
RaskyKat : Mind your own business. :sqwink:

Tyrone: And you were saying?
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Fred:

I've seen your rig but didn't notice how the drape fits in. Do you use velcro?

With the way my rack is set up, I think I could benefit from a drape to hide the wires in the back.

The only thing I use the table given me for is paperwork and drinks. So, essentially, with a drape, I could drop the facade and that would be one less thing to carry (and more room for the 42" LCD).
Thanks, Tom.

Yup, it's suspended from the hinge pins on the console rack case via Velcro strips. Another pair of strips secure it to the sides on the cover latches. We use black Velcro strips. It's not noticeable.

The beauty of this ~ the drape hides the open-back rack cases. It looks like crap when we're setting up but once that drape is put on, it's sweet stuff.

Just our preference but we don't utilize venue-provided tables. They just get in the way. Any horizontal surface is an open invitation for guests to use as a dump. So we don't use 'em. If the venue sets up a table for us we ask for it to be removed. If they're too busy, we remove it ourselves. We can't get loaded in and set up with a banquet table in the road.

We have a small, pedestal-type table that we can use for the laptop and/or paperwork. It's actually a photographer's tool called a posing stand.

That being said, I appreciate you guys' preferences. You've got sweet setups. Work best with what works best for you. Remember, some of us work with true FOH systems.

All I'm askin' is... don't preach. State your opinion on the topic and let it go at that, please.
 
here is what a setup of mine is like
I dont use a BIG overside @#!$ board

gear1setup-400x400.jpg


depending if the venue allows me to put up big light stands I keep them at times small and I can place them on top of the Dominator speakers :)
 
here is what a setup of mine is like
I dont use a BIG overside @#!$ board

gear1setup-400x400.jpg


depending if the venue allows me to put up big light stands I keep them at times small and I can place them on top of the Dominator speakers :)

I used to place my lights on top of my speakers the same way, but I noticed my lamps were getting burned off faster, due to the vibration....

Sweet set up...