Yep, I'm voting for THIS guy in 2008.
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Right there is the mentality I have a problem with. McDonalds will hire anyone. So will 7-11, or hotels for housekeeping. Wal-Mart (as much as I despise how they run the little man out of business), prides itself on working around the schedules of people with children.
People think these jobs are "beneath" them somehow.
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McDonalds does not hire just anyone.
7-11 has a very strict schedule and usually look for late shifters.
Wal-Mart wants ridiculous long hours. I did IT for them and you're pretty far off from their policy. :sqconfused:
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I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, because I know people that work at all 4 of those industries I mentioned who have children and have no issue of working their schedule around their childrens activities and babysitting.
I know MacDonalds and Wal-Marts store policies pretty well from talking to managers while I did IT. (I built several of those self-serve kiosks and programmed Aloha! the POS program).
Hotels are pretty flexible.. but it's not as easy as one thinks.
Until you meet someone that has to start from scratch, you'll never get it. Honestly, I'm not trying to sound like an arse, but I used to think the same as you until I saw the other side of the coin. Once you get up from ground zero, it gets a lot easier.
Hotels are pretty flexible.. but it's not as easy as one thinks.
Until you meet someone that has to start from scratch, you'll never get it. Honestly, I'm not trying to sound like an arse, but I used to think the same as you until I saw the other side of the coin. Once you get up from ground zero, it gets a lot easier.
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Ace,
I normally dont get personal on here, but your lost post is going to force me too. I think I have been down as close to zero as anyone else on here.
At 15, I was booted out of my house because I actually had nerve enough to stand up to an abusive father. I lived my entire sophomore and junior years in High school out of an abandoned trailer with no heat, water or electricity. I would get showers in the schools locker room before classes because I knew some of the guys on the football team and they would let me in while they were working out. There were times I did not eat for 3-4 day stretches. I would stand outside fast food places and hope one of my friends who worked there would be able to sneak something out to me. I would go to football games and work the concession stands so I could have a meal over the weekend.
And you know what I did the entire time? I actually went to school, studied my ass off, and won a scholarship to college. I did not beg and plead "help me help me" I did not run to the government (even though I was emancipated from my parents could legally have done so). I did it myself.
So you can preach all you want to me about how it is nearly impossible to people who are at ground zero to get out. But its all crap. If you want to, if you actually decide "hey, I dont want to relie on other, but will actually start taking responsiblilty for myself" and stop throwing excuse after excuse as to why you cant do something, and instead, just shut your mouth and get out and change you situation, then no one can stop you from digging out of any hole you may find yourself in.
I have ZERO pity on anyone who sits around and whines and complains at how hard their life is. The only thing holding people like that down is their own unwillingness to do what it take to change their life.
I normally dont get personal on here, but your lost post is going to force me too. I think I have been down as close to zero as anyone else on here.
At 15, I was booted out of my house because I actually had nerve enough to stand up to an abusive father. I lived my entire sophomore and junior years in High school out of an abandoned trailer with no heat, water or electricity. I would get showers in the schools locker room before classes because I knew some of the guys on the football team and they would let me in while they were working out. There were times I did not eat for 3-4 day stretches. I would stand outside fast food places and hope one of my friends who worked there would be able to sneak something out to me. I would go to football games and work the concession stands so I could have a meal over the weekend.
And you know what I did the entire time? I actually went to school, studied my ass off, and won a scholarship to college. I did not beg and plead "help me help me" I did not run to the government (even though I was emancipated from my parents could legally have done so). I did it myself.
So you can preach all you want to me about how it is nearly impossible to people who are at ground zero to get out. But its all crap. If you want to, if you actually decide "hey, I dont want to relie on other, but will actually start taking responsiblilty for myself" and stop throwing excuse after excuse as to why you cant do something, and instead, just shut your mouth and get out and change you situation, then no one can stop you from digging out of any hole you may find yourself in.
I have ZERO pity on anyone who sits around and whines and complains at how hard their life is. The only thing holding people like that down is their own unwillingness to do what it take to change their life.
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So, back to our original thread. For those of you that forgot in the midst of all the other debate that could have been handled in PMs, here it is:
Now, this guy sounds a lot like Paul Sarbanes to a point. Other than Sarbanes-Oxley, which was mostly Oxley and a PITA for the feds, Paul didn't really do anything either.
I want a good, honest-to-goodness, controversial candidate. One that's willing to step in and get their hands dirty. Sure, I'm not going to agree with everything they say, but I want somebody that's going to kick some azz.
2008's going to be the year of the Democrat. Like it, hate it, it doesn't matter because most of America are just tired of the Republicans.
So, what does that mean? More spending on government and social programs. I work for the government and my agency is a social program, so, we get more money to get lots of things fixed.
Hillary? Say what you want, she's in favor of health care. This could be a big shot in the arm for Medicare and believe me, Medicare needs it. But, more than that, maybe we can finally get down to building a Unified Health Record that not only gives the doctors the ability to correctly share health information but also gives the patients a lot of privacy protection. Can you imagine a patient record system that allows the doctor to know all of your allergies and prescriptions so that he/she will not prescribe a drug your are allergic to or will negatively interact with whatever you are taking now? We need a politician that is in favor of health care.
As to pro-life, sure, I am pro-life, but I am also pro-gun and pro-kill-the-bastard-that-shoots-up-a-mall-because-he-is-having-a-bad-hair-day.
So, now that we remeber what the original topic was, let's keep it there...
Now, this guy sounds a lot like Paul Sarbanes to a point. Other than Sarbanes-Oxley, which was mostly Oxley and a PITA for the feds, Paul didn't really do anything either.
I want a good, honest-to-goodness, controversial candidate. One that's willing to step in and get their hands dirty. Sure, I'm not going to agree with everything they say, but I want somebody that's going to kick some azz.
2008's going to be the year of the Democrat. Like it, hate it, it doesn't matter because most of America are just tired of the Republicans.
So, what does that mean? More spending on government and social programs. I work for the government and my agency is a social program, so, we get more money to get lots of things fixed.
Hillary? Say what you want, she's in favor of health care. This could be a big shot in the arm for Medicare and believe me, Medicare needs it. But, more than that, maybe we can finally get down to building a Unified Health Record that not only gives the doctors the ability to correctly share health information but also gives the patients a lot of privacy protection. Can you imagine a patient record system that allows the doctor to know all of your allergies and prescriptions so that he/she will not prescribe a drug your are allergic to or will negatively interact with whatever you are taking now? We need a politician that is in favor of health care.
As to pro-life, sure, I am pro-life, but I am also pro-gun and pro-kill-the-bastard-that-shoots-up-a-mall-because-he-is-having-a-bad-hair-day.
So, now that we remeber what the original topic was, let's keep it there...
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I thought all you folks were voting for me... 
My Voting record:
I voted for W in 2000, still have my absentee chad puncher from FL.
Now I'm voting for him and Cheney to go hunting together
(we live, we learn)
My other record:
Check with the local Sheriff -- it's long and glorious
My Voting record:
I voted for W in 2000, still have my absentee chad puncher from FL.
Now I'm voting for him and Cheney to go hunting together
(we live, we learn)
My other record:
Check with the local Sheriff -- it's long and glorious
Can he beat the Democrat candidate?
That's all I really want this time around, to keep Hillary or Obama or any of the other Democrats from getting anywhere near the Oval Office.
That's all I really want this time around, to keep Hillary or Obama or any of the other Democrats from getting anywhere near the Oval Office.
Not a chance of this happening........I'm a republican, have always tried to vote though for who I thought was the best candidate. Sometimes it's neither..! I voted for GW....wrong..!! But only from hindsight.....not saying what He is doing with the war is wrong. it's not, .....protecting our soldiers is, and should be number one on all citizens minds. It's how he is perceived by the masses/public. He has done a very poor job of getting his message across, to the voters in a positive way. He does not appear to have a good advisory staff. His speech writers need help......"You sell it, not Tell it". The only one of the Republicans that has any chance is Fred Thompson the "actor" (didn't we have one of those actors before?) who did a pretty fair job of uniting the people
My 29 cents worth,..... (use to buy a gallon of gas)..........
He may not beat his mother if she ran, but of all the people I know are running, I don't really like any of them, especially those who have any real shot of winning.
So, at least I get to vote for someone I think would do what I think needs to be done.
Hey, go ahead and laugh... I liked the way that Jesse Ventura stood on tons of issues.
So, at least I get to vote for someone I think would do what I think needs to be done.
Hey, go ahead and laugh... I liked the way that Jesse Ventura stood on tons of issues.
Mr. Putin will be needing a new job next year.
He's the only republican I know who could do the job
Heck, I'm trying to keep my party OUT OF the White House -- how scary is that...
He's the only republican I know who could do the job
Heck, I'm trying to keep my party OUT OF the White House -- how scary is that...
Keeping Hillary out of the Oval Office is the only thing that matters to me.
If you think that Bush is bad (and Lord know, I have lots of issues with him), a Democrat in that office would be 10 times worse.
It's sad, but that's how it goes now. You don't vote FOR a candidate, you seem to be voting AGAINST the other candidate.
If you think that Bush is bad (and Lord know, I have lots of issues with him), a Democrat in that office would be 10 times worse.
It's sad, but that's how it goes now. You don't vote FOR a candidate, you seem to be voting AGAINST the other candidate.
It dosen't really matter who wins 2008 in 2012 it will all change again. The winner in 2008 will be saddled with this administrations legacy for the next 4 years at least and look really bad to the general public
And thats just foregin policy
The spending will be felt for generations
And thats just foregin policy
The spending will be felt for generations
And someone from Canada weighs in on this because????? Not flaming Jeff, just wondering why someone who cannot vote in our election would care so much.
Doesn't Canada have their own elections? Why the obsession with ours?
Doesn't Canada have their own elections? Why the obsession with ours?
Mabye you haven't noticed but you live right below us. What happens in your country generally speaking directly effects us. We are linked economically, socially and on foregin policy.
If you get nuked in Boston do you think that it wouldn't do damage in Nova Scotia
I hold an interest in world politics you just happen to be our closest cousin