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This wont be more than a gnat buzzing around Akon's Ear with R Kelly battling him for chart position.
 
I don't know about that Jon.

With the push to clean up rap music, The Game in trouble with the law, and the news not wanting to look like they not taking it seriously, this actually could turn into more than that.
 
I know somebody who was at that concert...I'll have to ask her about it.
 
He'll probably spend 3 days in jail and then serve the rest of his time under house arrest anyway.
 
HiDefDJ said:
He'll probably spend 3 days in jail and then serve the rest of his time under house arrest anyway.
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Did you see though...the judge is pissed they let her out. The city attorney wants to hold the sheriff in contempt for ignoring the sentence, which specifically said no house arrest.
 
I almost find it funny. What the he-doulbe-hockey sticks is a 15 year old doing at a concert unsupervised??


I know he grinded against some 15 year old girl... but with the way that teen girls dress like hoochie mammas nowadays, how can ANYONE tell their age? I can't tell you how many 14 year olds I see that look like they're 18.

Don't blame Akon.. blame the irresponsible moron that calls themselves the parents.
 
DJCraziAce said:
Don't blame Akon.. blame the irresponsible moron that calls themselves the parents.
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Do you really want to stand behind that statement Ace?

I am not saying the parents don't have responsibilty in the matter too, but saying don't blame Akon is a little far fetched.

I am going to open up a huge can of worms by saying what I am about too, but your statement (not YOU) really makes me think of something I have had on my mind for a long time:

How much of the "don't blame the celeb" game has to do with race? I am not talking about just this case, but many others out there now. Paris Hilton (white) (yeah yeah, I know, but follow me for a moment her), is all over the news 24/7 for driving on a suspended license. Brandy (black), is charged with and will be on trial for Manslaughter, and not a mention of it anywhere.

I have to wonder if the DA (who is black) would be dragging their feet so much on the Michael Vick case if his name was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

Would the Duke fiasco of last year been that much of a big deal is the "working girl" had been white?

Would the media be completely ignoring the stories of these rappers doing these things if it were a coutry star or rock star?

Think about it one time.
 
Patrick.. I see your point. But the alcohol that Paris drank did not disguise itself as water.

Akon didn't kill anyone or risk anyone's life. He was performing a concert, where the songs are of adult material (ex: I Wanna **** You ft Snoop Dogg).

A 14 year old had no business being there. A 14 year old that looks like she's 21 had it coming.

Dave Chapelle made a great point in one of his standups (For What It's Worth, Comedy Central). He was talking about R Kelly and that 13 year old.

He asked, how old is 13 really?

Everyone said "R Kelly took advantage of that 13 year old girl, they don't know any better."

Meanwhile a 13 year old boy accidentally kills his brother doing a wrestling move (PileDriver) and they gave him LIFE (Juvie, then prison). The judge, and several others, said that he's 13 and should know better.

Chapelle's a smart man. His show may be borderline stupid (I enjoy it a lot) to some, but his standup makes you think.
 
DJCraziAce said:
... A 14 year old that looks like she's 21 had it coming.
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Ace, with all due respect I beg to differ with this one. I raised a daughter, lol. A 14-year-old is still a 14-year-old, no matter how she dresses nor how old she appears to be.

My daughter was taller than me at 14. She looked much older as well... and was often mistaken for someone much older. She was "well-endowed" to be blunt. But... she was still 14. :)

One evening, the daughter and I were in the local grocery store. A coworker met up and we chatted for a bit. Next day at work, the coworker looked at me with a funny-lookin' grin and said "Kinda robbin' the cradle, ain't ya?"

He didn't know she was my daughter. He knew after that comment, though. I let him know. :D

But I digress. At that young age, a person is not expected to be capable of making adult decisions. It ain't gonna happen, sorry. At that age, they don't have sufficient life experience to make decisions that will carry repercussions.

At that age, they are pushing the envelope, yet are still very trusting. They trust a concert venue to be safe. They trust the performers.

I agree... the pup had no business in an over-18 venue. We've all done the same and can share war stories from our youth. Blame the parents (or the lack of, if you will). But you can't blame a little girl who doesn't know any better. :)
 
Fred, I agree with you completely about that looks don't make one mature.

However, if you reference back to my Dave Chapelle anecdote, you'll see my full stance on this.

If your 14 year old girl was dressed in a short-cut shirt and real short mini-skirt, goes to a concert with a few girlfriends..gets on the stage and grinds on the dancer (who doesn't know her age), would your anger be placed towards the singer or your daughter?

My fiance and I discussed this. You cannot BAN minors from a concert because they make up a huge demographic factor. I mean, you can ban them but a lot of money would be lost. God forbid an artist cannot buy another McLaren F1. LOL

They need to have anyone under 18 show up with someone 21 or older.

No exceptions. Period. Even if you're Paris.
 
DJCraziAce said:
If your 14 year old girl was dressed in a short-cut shirt and real short mini-skirt, goes to a concert with a few girlfriends..gets on the stage and grinds on the dancer (who doesn't know her age), would your anger be placed towards the singer or your daughter?
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You do hold the girl responsible, but the artist also must have responsibilty as well.

This is the entire problem with celebrities (and most of the public in general), it is always someone else's fault.

Why does he find the the need to grind up against a total stranger?

I don't want to hear it is part of his act or he is just expressing artistic freedom. It is pointless and unecessary.
 
Yes.. it's pointless, just like smashing your guitar at a rock concert.. or throwing a chicken out to the crowd. :)

Akon sings grinding music.. someone gets up on there, he's going to dance with them. That's the norm at these types of concerts.
 
DJCraziAce said:
Yes.. it's pointless, just like smashing your guitar at a rock concert.. or throwing a chicken out to the crowd. :)

Akon sings grinding music.. someone gets up on there, he's going to dance with them. That's the norm at these types of concerts.
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Way to reference something that happened 30 years ago and does not go on anymore :sqwink:

I know we are into different kinds of music and lifestyles, but just to let you know, one of the stipulations in the contract bands sign with me and also in the rider that goes to every venue is that if any equipment is destroyed during a performance, the band does not get paid, and their contract is instantly terminated.
 
DJCraziAce said:
Fred, I agree with you completely about that looks don't make one mature.

However, if you reference back to my Dave Chapelle anecdote, you'll see my full stance on this.

If your 14 year old girl was dressed in a short-cut shirt and real short mini-skirt, goes to a concert with a few girlfriends..gets on the stage and grinds on the dancer (who doesn't know her age), would your anger be placed towards the singer or your daughter?

My fiance and I discussed this. You cannot BAN minors from a concert because they make up a huge demographic factor. I mean, you can ban them but a lot of money would be lost. God forbid an artist cannot buy another McLaren F1. LOL

They need to have anyone under 18 show up with someone 21 or older.

No exceptions. Period. Even if you're Paris.
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Forgive an old dog, please... but I have no idea who Dave Chapelle is. :)

My daughter never dressed like that. She was OK with jeans and a tee shirt, lol. Yeah, she probably could have gone with the low-cut cleavage blouses and short skirts... but at her age, she wasn't interested in any of that. She liked hanging out with her buds. :)

Should the aforementioned occur at a concert, I'd be more ticked at the singer or artist than the daughter. Guess I'd probably feel that they took advantage of a young girl who didn't know any better. I would expect them to know better.
 
patrickrlewis said:
Way to reference something that happened 30 years ago and does not go on anymore :sqwink:
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No.. now bands such as Hell on Earth have sex with cows on stage or stage a live suicide from an undisclosed location online.

patrickrlewis said:
I know we are into different kinds of music and lifestyles, but just to let you know, one of the stipulations in the contract bands sign with me and also in the rider that goes to every venue is that if any equipment is destroyed during a performance, the band does not get paid, and their contract is instantly terminated.
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What does that have to do with Akon and a 14 year old girl? He destroyed no property.
 
Fred Stewart said:
Forgive an old dog, please... but I have no idea who Dave Chapelle is. :)

My daughter never dressed like that. She was OK with jeans and a tee shirt, lol. Yeah, she probably could have gone with the low-cut cleavage blouses and short skirts... but at her age, she wasn't interested in any of that. She liked hanging out with her buds. :)

Should the aforementioned occur at a concert, I'd be more ticked at the singer or artist than the daughter. Guess I'd probably feel that they took advantage of a young girl who didn't know any better. I would expect them to know better.
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Fred, in the middle of a performance in front of thousands, the last thing that goes through their mind is "IS THIS GIRL REALLY LEGAL?"

Keep in mind this is a regional thing (where young girls look like they just came out of Playboy.) It's sick, but it's what's happening around here.
 
DJCraziAce said:
No.. now bands such as Hell on Earth have sex with cows on stage or stage a live suicide from an undisclosed location online.



What does that have to do with Akon and a 14 year old girl? He destroyed no property.
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you brought up the property destroying, not me.

and I have just as much of an issue with the act you descirbed by that band as I do with the actions of rappers.
 
DJCraziAce said:
Hmm..

sex with a cow or a live suicide does not amount to a R&B singer dancing on what he thought was a legal-aged girl.
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One point: in most areas and states, grinding (not dancing) into someone you do not know would be considered a sexual attack and is a misdeameanor.

I think something everyone is forgeting is that this is an unwanted sexual act from one person to another.

Also, the article in question is this thread has nothing to do with the grinding incident, but instead, with him THROWING SOMEONE OFF THE STAGE AND ONTO ANOTHER!!! Which, in any place I know of, would be considered assault wouldnt it?
 
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