Qsc kw181

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prodjay

Mac Daddy DJ
Dec 13, 2009
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Who here has one of these? Is it worth the money? Will I have any problems finding the threaded poles for one?

If anyone has A/B this sub to anything else please tell me how it did. Thanks
 
What are you going to pair it with? What is your budget.
 
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I have several 12" tops that I will use with this sub. I am asking about this sub because I have a local dealer I work with on QSC products. Also this sub falls into the price range I would like to stay close to about $1200.
 
I A/B a pair of them against a pair ov EV-TX1181's pushed with a Q1212 amp. I used the EV-TX1122 tops on both sides. I could not tell much difference until I pushed the subs hard. The QSC went flat, I guess some call it roll off, while the TX hammered all the way till I was lighting the limit light about every couple seconds (flashed the light would be the right term), no limiting ever took place. The Q1212 amp was feed by the same mixer but it had a DCONE processor in line, with the subs getting 40-100HZ.

I feel it was more than a fair test as the salesman was doing everything he could to get me to buy the QSC stuff, I am guessing much better commission or product bucks for that line. Myself, and I am no engineer (on audio that is), I think the amps and processing in the QSC was not up to the level of the amp and processor from EV. I also think that line of sub is really suffering from the cabinet size, it might be very portable, but not enough air space.

This is no ding on QSC, I thought thier tops were tremendous, and thier subs would be great for small rooms or flat music, I do a lot of teen stuff and many old school disco events and I feel thier subs don't put out the grunt at higher volumes like many other do.

Ray J.
 
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This is no ding on QSC, I thought thier tops were tremendous, and thier subs would be great for small rooms or flat music, I do a lot of teen stuff and many old school disco events and I feel thier subs don't put out the grunt at higher volumes like many other do.

Not completely sure but I think the band at my uplighting gig last night was using these QSC subs with a pair of small JBL tops. To be honest, I wasn't impressed with either the high end of those tops and certainly not the low-end of those QSCs. My assessment would be square in line with yours, Ray. Even in a small room, they just didn't have much punch to them. Of course, it could be that I was kinda side-tracked by the semi-sucky musicianship and the eye candy.
 
And if they had some kind of processing ahead of the speakers (driverack, BBE, etc), that could also affect the sound. I liked the QSC KW181s when I heard them, but they are DSP controlled, so you get what you get.
 
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I A/B a pair of them against a pair ov EV-TX1181's pushed with a Q1212 amp. I used the EV-TX1122 tops on both sides. I could not tell much difference until I pushed the subs hard. The QSC went flat, I guess some call it roll off, while the TX hammered all the way till I was lighting the limit light about every couple seconds (flashed the light would be the right term), no limiting ever took place. The Q1212 amp was feed by the same mixer but it had a DCONE processor in line, with the subs getting 40-100HZ.

I feel it was more than a fair test as the salesman was doing everything he could to get me to buy the QSC stuff, I am guessing much better commission or product bucks for that line. Myself, and I am no engineer (on audio that is), I think the amps and processing in the QSC was not up to the level of the amp and processor from EV. I also think that line of sub is really suffering from the cabinet size, it might be very portable, but not enough air space.

This is no ding on QSC, I thought thier tops were tremendous, and thier subs would be great for small rooms or flat music, I do a lot of teen stuff and many old school disco events and I feel thier subs don't put out the grunt at higher volumes like many other do.

Ray J.
I fully agree. Music is not full bodied at all coming from those cabinets. Reminds me of listening to Chinese Music at loud volumes.
 
To make it clear the QSC did not see any processing (other than its own). Mixer (set up flat) placed in mono (gain structure perfect), with XLR to the QSC subs. The TX stuff took the other channel of the mixers XRL to the DCONE, to the amp. I think the quality of the driver in the QSC was better than the TX, but the cabinet is too small for the air dissplaced and the amp and processing, though it had a high watt ratting, could not keep up with the EV amp at 750 watts per channel and the DCONE processor.

Ray J.
 
According to the specs, total cabinet volume is similar (one is higher, one is deeper) at just under 7 cubic feet (they are within 5%).
 
Have the previous version HPR series from QSC, In my opinion the are a better speaker, I have 6 currently and try to buy every one that's anywhere near my location
 
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Have the previous version HPR series from QSC, In my opinion the are a better speaker, I have 6 currently and try to buy every one that's anywhere near my location

From what I've heard, they appear to be. I just can't handle the extra 40 pounds by myself any more. Lifting 88 pounds into my Pilot is ok .. 127 pounds is a no go.
 
From what I've heard, they appear to be. I just can't handle the extra 40 pounds by myself any more. Lifting 88 pounds into my Pilot is ok .. 127 pounds is a no go.
Trailers and a ramp, if I can't roll everything into a venue, there is a rather significant surcharge on my contract, takes two extra guys if I cant roll in
 
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My lighting guy has them, And we used his new QSC rig for a small wedding. I liked them alot, They had a great warm sound
Granted i had no need to push them, But overall i thought they were great.
 
Trailers and a ramp, if I can't roll everything into a venue, there is a rather significant surcharge on my contract, takes two extra guys if I cant roll in

I'm still working on lightening my load and I am not doing the larger live sound stuff I did, so a trailer is probably not warranted. While I can get ramps for my Pilot, there is still the issue of venues with stairs, and as I would like to be able to do these by myself, the smaller sub is necessary.
 
I add $400 on top of all quotes with one or more stairs, I pay two guys $200 each to load in and load out my gear, my wedding setup up once in the room takes less than 1/2 an hour to set up and 15 min to dress it for a clean professional look
 
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I add $400 on top of all quotes with one or more stairs, I pay two guys $200 each to load in and load out my gear, my wedding setup up once in the room takes less than 1/2 an hour to set up and 15 min to dress it for a clean professional look

I'd still have to get it there and it doesn't make economic sense for me to buy a van or trailer for the number of gigs that would require that amount of equipment.